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DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:37 AM Sep 2012

'These People Are Animals' ... and we wonder why there is a jihad?

'These People Are Animals' is what Glenn Beck is screaming on his show now.

Do these people not know they are endangering Americans and Christians all over the world?

I was in Indonesia, on a small island, I'd been taking small boats down through the chain of islands away from Bali. George Bush was President and then he insulted the Muslims. Another Jihad was called against us. I thought I was safe on my tiny island until the owner of the place I was staying came up to us and said, "Do you have knives?"

Knives? A Swiss Armny knife. Not much else. He tells us, "They just burned all the Christians on _____________." (The island next to us that we could see across the straight). The missionaries had fled to a camper with their children and had been burned alive.

The owner of the place we were at told us. "They may come here tonight. YOu must be ready to run". The walls of our little cabana were made out of woven plant fronds. Beautiful but no stronger than a woven placemat. "If you hear anything, cut the back wall, run into the forest and do not come back." He told us. The ferry would be there in the morning. He would get us there if he could find us.

I think he spent the whole night in a tree outside our cabana. There were few westerners this far out into the island chain. He knew we were a target.

We stayed up the whole night, every once in a while there were noises, things that frightened us. The next morning the man had friends hide us in our car and drive us to the ferry. Other Westerners were showing up, also with local people shepherding them to the safety of the boat. At the worst of times, regardless of them being a target now for helping infidels, the Muslims of the island did their best to help us.

President Bush's words had caused a Jihad. He probably earned some votes for being so nasty to the Muslims. Of course, little missionary kids in Indonesia were burned alive so that Bush could continue his war of words and religions.

And that is always the case with these hate mongers. Their freedom of speech protects them here, but people all over the world pay the price. And, believe me, an American in Indonesia that gets their throat slit, nobody in America hears about it. We are insulated here. We don't think our mean words and wars have any consequences to the average American. But it does.

Those mean words are seeds. Little bitty seeds of hate. When you are dirt poor, barely surviving, all you have sometimes is God. Many people's lives are so terrible on this earth that all they can do is pray and dream of God and heaven. Their prayers mean more. Their belief is more important to them. If they don't defend their God, then they have nothing.

Nothing.

Just like the dead missionaries and their kids. Just like our Ambassador. They too now have nothing.

But Mitt Romney has something he thinks. He thinks he has more votes. That makes it worth it. Glenn Beck has something, more hate and for him that is success.

But they don't pay the price for their hate. They never pay the price for their hate.

I say send Glenn to Cairo, get him a soapbox, let him defend his own words to the people he is talking about. Let him finally see what beautiful blossoms his little bitty seeds of hate turn into.

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'These People Are Animals' ... and we wonder why there is a jihad? (Original Post) DonRedwood Sep 2012 OP
"Do these people not know they are endangering Americans and Christians all over the world?" fleur-de-lisa Sep 2012 #1
I don't think people like Glenn Beck PatSeg Sep 2012 #2
Agreed. HappyMe Sep 2012 #3
One of my favorite movies PatSeg Sep 2012 #9
To the greatest... HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #4
Wonderful story. Thank you for it. n/t, k/r reflection Sep 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Brickbat Sep 2012 #6
We have our hate-mongers, they have theirs bhikkhu Sep 2012 #7
And the religious angle can be a stand-in for a lot of other underlying issues Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #8
I wouldn't say they're animals sense animals usually have a decent reason to kill 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #10
they are like a bunch of wanna-be Hitlers magical thyme Sep 2012 #11
I'm a US Citizen who grew up and lived in Mexico and Colombia lunatica Sep 2012 #12

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
1. "Do these people not know they are endangering Americans and Christians all over the world?"
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:44 AM
Sep 2012

I think they DO know and they don't care. As you so eloquently stated, they aren't endangering themselves. In their lizard brains, the pain and suffering of others is worth it if they can get a few extra votes or earn a few more dollars of blood money. I agree with you . . . ship them overseas and let them spout their hate over there!

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
2. I don't think people like Glenn Beck
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:50 AM
Sep 2012

can see beyond the moment and in the moment there is money to be made and devoted followers to inspire. These right-wing talkers never take responsibility for the consequences of their ugly words.

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
9. One of my favorite movies
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:12 AM
Sep 2012

is The Fisher King. Jeff Bridges played a shock-jock who caused a listener to kill a lot of innocent people. I naively believed that there were people in the media who would feel as remorseful as Bridges' character. So much for THAT fantasy.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. To the greatest...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:03 AM
Sep 2012

Good story. The bellowing politicians, pundits, and preachers are throwing red meat to their militant christian followers in the US. They simply don't care how their words are perceived elsewhere, as long as it brings in $ to them.

Response to DonRedwood (Original post)

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
7. We have our hate-mongers, they have theirs
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:09 AM
Sep 2012

Fortunately in neither case are they anywhere near the majority.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
8. And the religious angle can be a stand-in for a lot of other underlying issues
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:10 AM
Sep 2012

This is LIBYA, folks, where the ouster of Qaddafi, an ouster supported by the U.S., turned into a mess that got a lot of innocent people killed.

Then there's YEMEN, where the U.S. has been targeting residents for assassination and killing off innocent people in the process.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
10. I wouldn't say they're animals sense animals usually have a decent reason to kill
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:22 AM
Sep 2012

but they are certainly worth condemning.

And it's becoming more and more likely that the attacks were part of an organized effort by some unsavory folks.

Not just people who were so incensed by a youtube video that they had to murder.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
11. they are like a bunch of wanna-be Hitlers
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:26 AM
Sep 2012

Using words to deliberately try to ignite groups of desperate people to act on their worst instincts, so that they can then ignite another group of people into genocide.

And that is what makes the producers and promoters of this hateful "film" so despicable.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. I'm a US Citizen who grew up and lived in Mexico and Colombia
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:55 AM
Sep 2012

I never felt unsafe. But then I wasn't a rude American.

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