Now that this is (almost) over

[Chainfire]

Asks a poster on a gun forum. Almost over? Therein lies the seeds to our doom:

now that it's ( almost ) over, I have to wonder:
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how many rolls of toilet paper did you use? how nany do you have left?

me, single guy: 2 and a half rolls used, 15 left.

[Newest Reality]

1. Yeah, almost over!

Sorry, that poster is just too highbrow for me to comprehend and respond to. Deep. Toilet flushing deep.

[Cirque du So-What]

2. The only thing that's 'almost over"

is enforced shutdowns. I have a dread that the virus will spread again once these shutdowns end.

[Decoy of Fenris]

7. In my opinion, millions have yet to die in the US alone.

From my understanding of what I've been reading and the biologists I know, this is an epoch-level virus, one that by all rights should alter how we live entirely. It will linger, continue to mutate, and will be a constant, lingering threat; no 'herd immunity', no 'vaccines', only therapeutic measures. The already-infected can be infected again. 80% of infected are asymptomatic and carry the disease everywhere without knowing. Multiple waves of deaths every year, mostly targeted to population centers and the generally disadvantaged areas, wiping out hundreds or thousands across the country every season. It could theoretically be worse than that.

I can't say I've heard many projections where the end result would be 'better' than what already seems to be the worst-case scenario of hundreds of thousands dying every year from this. One biologist I know insists that Social Distancing must become the 'norm', if not keeping limited lockdowns in place, if we want to have any chance of beating this with a lower body count. Otherwise... Millions? Hundreds of millions? Dead over a few decades.

[csziggy]

8. Have the experts revised their original estimates of how many will catch Covid-19?

I remember reading that they were saying 40-70% of the world's population would catch it, and something like 2-3% of those would die.

The reported and confirmed cases have been low but that could be a result of only testing symptomatic people and a fairly low percentage of those. If most are asymptomatic, as shown in some of the testing (homeless, for instance) then the percentage who have been exposed but have not demonstrated symptoms could be much, much higher than we can know at this point.

Frankly, I think this is past being controllable and that we may have to learn to live with it, they way people used to live with periodic outbreaks of infectious diseases - unless it is possible to make an effective vaccine.

[Decoy of Fenris]

9. Not to my knowledge. Rate of mutation and lack of testing has made forecasts sketchy.

The asymptomatic issue is the largest one, followed -very- closely by no evidence existing of antibodies being effective protection. The potential of an 80% asymptomatic infection rate alone would be devastating, the virus circulating and mingling without warning or reason to suspect anything's wrong. The infected can be reinfected, the asymptomatic can become symptomatic, and no vaccine would work as we currently consider vaccines. This is very much a "Way of life" virus, I think; uncontainable, vaccine-proof, highly mutagenic, bypassing 'Herd Immunity' by virtue of carriers and reinfection...

Personal opinion only, we're in for an absolute hell of a ride, and the most vulnerable/disadvantaged are going to be hit like a sledgehammer, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

[csziggy]

10. That's what I have been afraid of

This is like a cold coronavirus on steroids. No good way to protect yourself aside from social distancing and personal sanitation.

It's going to be rough. I'm 67 and have been planning my life to live as long as my parents (Dad - 90, Mom - 97) but now I think I may need to revise that planning.

[Decoy of Fenris]

11. I'm afraid we're both probably correct. This is -far- worse than many consider.

Biologists have been almost idly speculating on the next great pandemic in our globalized world and how it would devastate us; idle speculation no longer, it seems. We're unprepared as a species, our medical practices are unequipped, our economy is built in precisely the worst possible way. We'll adapt as a species, as we always have, but our current way of life is going to have to change... at least for those not lucky enough to be outright naturally immune to this.

Good luck, mate. I'm only 34, soon-to-be-ex-wife is 30, but we're making out our wills. "Just in case". Although, paradoxically, being a smoker seems to hold at least some degree of protection, either by nature or by social practice... So I may have longer than some others, a fact that weighs heavy on me given my lack of self-care. Don't seem right that a lifetime smoker with poor life habits is outliving people who take care of themselves fastidiously.

Still. Time will tell. Hope you, and your parents, continue to live long and prosperous lives, mate.

[csziggy]

12. Not sure if I want to live to see what happens or would be ready to go

But it is time for a shift in the global economy. When corporations are "people" and have more rights than humans, things need to change.

Good luck to you and your wife - and it is always a good idea to have a will. I made my first one when I was 25 shortly after I married. Another in 1993 after my oldest sister died, and my most recent in 2019 after both my parents had passed.

Where I think I am lucky that in the very long genealogy of my family (and of my husband's) very few ancestors or relatives died of infectious diseases. I suspect we have the genes for robust immune systems so we might be the lucky few. I do worry about my great nephews and niece and their parents but they are all smart and will protect themselves as much as possible.

Live long and prosper, yourself!

[lame54]

3. It's falling apart...

Newsome is giving in
He knows he can't hold it together much longer
The heat is drawing everybody out

[Victor_c3]

4. 2.5 rolls of TP! Ha, I didn't even use a complete roll by myself!

Single (divorced) 40-year-old dad here, I’m not even a prepper.

I bought a 24-pack of TP in January because I finally finished off the 12-pack I bought 13 months ago! I can wait it out until not only social distancing is eased, but the entire economy completely turns around.


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(I learned in the army that if you keep the hair around your butt-hole trimmed that it doesn’t take much TP to clean yourself. Also, if you keep things trimmed down there your more likely to receive analingus [i didn’t learn that in the Army]).

[Chainfire]

5. Next time I go to the barber shop

I will have to ask about that service. I bet it will cost more.

[Victor_c3]

6. Pro-tip: it's called a "bro-zillian"

I don’t think you’re going to like it though

The guys in the barbershop would love to hear about that!