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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:47 PM Sep 2012

Maybe it's just me, but I get the feeling that winger assholes are trying to get some of us killed

I mean, I could be wrong… But is there a plausible explanation about why they are going out of their way to piss off already touchy people about their most closely held beliefs?

Because I can't see why that would be a good idea, when the consequence could end up getting some of us killed.

Perhaps, we're just seeing another example of the penchant in human nature for utter chaos and self-destruction, is this right?

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Maybe it's just me, but I get the feeling that winger assholes are trying to get some of us killed (Original Post) MrScorpio Sep 2012 OP
The ones yelling the loudest for killing stand in the back when it starts Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #1
I've been wondering the same thing . . . fleur-de-lisa Sep 2012 #2
I think its possible that they... Whiskeytide Sep 2012 #20
If they can get a political point off of your death, then you should watch your back ck4829 Sep 2012 #3
Armageddon lunatica Sep 2012 #4
The attacks and murder of Amb. Stevens was going to happen even without a film Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #5
I think you give them too much credit corkhead Sep 2012 #6
That is exactly what is going on. hifiguy Sep 2012 #7
That's a lot of WOOOO! in 3 short sentences. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #10
Well, some enterprising journalist should dig into this "film" hifiguy Sep 2012 #11
Why bother? You've already got it all figured out absent any investigation. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #13
A speculation is not a conclusion. It's a guess. hifiguy Sep 2012 #16
Yes, the "obvious suspects." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #18
I have wondered about that. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #8
IMO, what they want to do is "prove" that Islam is MicaelS Sep 2012 #9
Bingo! nt hifiguy Sep 2012 #12
my fundie neighbor oldhippydude Sep 2012 #14
Really scary . . . fleur-de-lisa Sep 2012 #21
George Carlin: "It's the quiet ones you got to watch." Initech Sep 2012 #15
They think they're living in the End Times. AngryOldDem Sep 2012 #17
Well, I had a nutter tell me that there should be only one political party.... Cleita Sep 2012 #19
Limbaugh makes 'jokes' about killing liberals all the time RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #22

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
2. I've been wondering the same thing . . .
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:55 PM
Sep 2012

I originally assumed the rightwing stirred up the hateful movie again to spur some kind of violent event, only to try to make the POTUS look bad. But if that was their intention, what a stupid idea! As always, the president handled it as the compassionate human being and consummate professional that he has always been. It only serves to confirm my belief in him.

And shouldn't they have foreseen that Mitch Romney would totally botch his response to any tragedy? He has failed on every level. I've been scratching my head over this one!

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
20. I think its possible that they...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:38 PM
Sep 2012

... still perceive republicans as having a better reputation among the electorate for handling war than do the democrats. Thus, a dust up in the middle east logically improves their chances in Nov.

Problem for them is that Bush43 did a lot to destroy that republican fantasy, and Obama may actually now have an edge on the "war" factor. (can you say Osama Bin Laden?)

But I really don't think the idiots at work here were "strateegery-izing" that far down the road. I think they were thinking only that the movie is critical of Muslims, and that was enough for them.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. Armageddon
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:57 PM
Sep 2012

Christian fundamentalists yearn mightily for Armageddon. It's supposed to start in the Middle East.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
5. The attacks and murder of Amb. Stevens was going to happen even without a film
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:59 PM
Sep 2012

If it wasn't that film it would have been something else.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
6. I think you give them too much credit
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:01 PM
Sep 2012

I think it is simply that they think their religious insanity is the only true one and all others are nonsense. I don't even need to say who "they" is because you can apply the statement to just about any fundie religion from any part of the world.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. That is exactly what is going on.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:03 PM
Sep 2012

The fundy nutbags and far-right supporters of Israel are trying to set up a "Let's you and him fight" for warped reasons of their own. Netanyahoo is certainly a part of it, as is Adelson. I wouldn't be surprised if AIPAC has its tentacles in this as well.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. Well, some enterprising journalist should dig into this "film"
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:12 PM
Sep 2012

and follow the money trail. We'd find out soon enough. That there are malevolent manipulators out there is not open to question. This whole controversy stinks of being a Rove and/or Adelson ratfuck.

That Netanyahoo is trying to interfere with the election on behalf of Rmoney has even been mentioned by Haaretz, and is quoted on another post here on DU. Haaretz ain't known for woo.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
13. Why bother? You've already got it all figured out absent any investigation.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:16 PM
Sep 2012

And I'm sure if the investigation did not lead back to the Armageddonist Christians and Zionist provocateurs it would be dismissed as part of the neocon disinformation campaign. You already have your conclusion; fire away.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
16. A speculation is not a conclusion. It's a guess.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:04 PM
Sep 2012

I am more than willing to be proved wrong. I just want to know what the truth is. Until then, I will speculate, directing my attention to the obvious suspects. Jeez.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
8. I have wondered about that.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:03 PM
Sep 2012

I mean, why would anybody intentionally incite a small minority of people already known to hold such extreme positions about their religion that they turn to violence when they feel that religion has been insulted? Of course we can all agree that starting riots and killing people over a disrespectful movie or cartoon is despicable, inexcusable and insane, but it's not condoning that behavior to understand that, like it or not, it happens and will doubtless continue to happen. So when you know there are irrational people with guns and bombs who are set to kill if they feel insulted, wouldn't you want to tread lightly just for the sake of protecting the people who are at risk?

This intentional incitement of violence is scarcely less reprehensible than the violence itself, and I believe it is being done in order to "prove" that Islam is a violent religion and all Muslims are dangerous, crazy people. Christians, of course, would never behave like that (except for the Spanish Inquisition, the KKK, the Salem witch trials and a few other little incidents). The ultimate goal might even be to justify a war with Iran and/or other Muslim countries.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
9. IMO, what they want to do is "prove" that Islam is
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sep 2012

A religion of barbarians and savages who will kill anyone, especially Americans, at any time for any reason. That way any amount of retaliation against Islam and Muslims is acceptable.

Some of them are absolutely rabid about attacking Iran. I know one guy, that is all he talks about. "Israel is going to attack Iran next month." "The US is going to attack Iran next month." "We (Israel and the US) should attack Iran now." He's been saying that for the last 2 years.

Don't forget, if we "provoke" Iran, so we can attack them, or just flat out attack them, that will help erase the "humiliation" of Iran taking our people hostage back in 1979.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
15. George Carlin: "It's the quiet ones you got to watch."
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:21 PM
Sep 2012

"You ever hear that? Some guy goes and murders a bunch of people and the neighbors always start talking about what a quiet guy he was. And then you hear oh it's the quiet ones you got to watch. Oh yeah? While you're watching a quiet one, a noisy one will fucking kill you! Suppose you're at a bar and there's a guy sitting in the back not bothering anybody. And then there's a guy at the bar banging a machete against it going "I'm gonna kill the next motherfucker that walks in here!!!" Which one ya gonna watch?"

I think that pretty much describes wing nut attitude in this country.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
17. They think they're living in the End Times.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:17 PM
Sep 2012

And hey, whatever can speed up Christ coming back on His golden chariot, they'll be more than happy to do.

My son holds the view that you do, that every generation wants to self-destruct. Me, I'm much more cynical.

And people fear religious extremists overseas.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
19. Well, I had a nutter tell me that there should be only one political party....
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:28 PM
Sep 2012

his..., which of course was the GOP. When I pointed out to him the number of nations past and present (I named off ten) that were single party, all of them totalitarian dictatorships or oligarchies, he stammered that it wasn't so. However, if they truly believe this, maybe this is their way of getting that single party rule...make sure the opposition dies. Actually, that's how it worked in the ancient world and the middle ages. It just goes to show how retro and stultified their thinking is.

Nutters actually don't like chaos. They like marching in lockstep or they will destroy those in opposition. They will set factions to fighting amongst themselves as part of their nihilation method.

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