Just remember our VP pick will probably be our president in 2024

[Tribetime]

So does that change your mind on who to pick should be

[Hortensis]

1. No, actually probably not. The advantages of incumbency

are not something to just toss away, and Biden and his VP will be well settled into their jobs but with so much more still to be done.

As for what I want, doesn't change my mind at all. I'm a shopping-cart chooser.

I want a female of course.
Someone with some black and some Hispanic -- and a dash of a neglected minority would be a nice gesture.
Some LGBTQ+ (someone from the "+" would be really cool as long as compatible with Biden's promise to choose a "woman".
From out west because Biden's east. Goes without saying.
Buddhist, Shinto or some such thing, or avowed atheist would be more representative also.

Let's see, oh yeah: a good dash of hatred for the Democratic Party, to appeal to young people who've been marinated in anti-government hostility all their lives, those liberal Latinos who "woke" to Sanders, and of course his angry populists and blue-collar progressives in hopes they won't run off and vote Republican again.

What am I missing? I'm sure there's a bunch.

[Funtatlaguy]

2. We have so many great female choices.

I will be happy with whomever she is.

[TexasTowelie]

3. If Biden is elected, in good health, and wants to run again in 2024,

then I will gladly support him. The VP choice will have to wait until 2028 so someone who respects patience as a virtue is as worthy of support as someone who places themselves at the forefront and starts campaigning in 2021 for the office.

[Hortensis]

4. Yes. But Biden's VP is going to spend 8 very important years as

his assistant president. Expect she'll far too busy to schedule in any waiting or practicing patience, especially if over time he does start feeling his age and shifts more to her portfolio.

Reminds me, when Biden came out of the WH after having served for 8 intense years, he was no longer interested in running for the top job. In a very real sense he'd been there and done that. He's running now because his country called and he couldn't say no.

[TexasTowelie]

6. I disagree with your last paragraph where you state that Biden was not interested in running for the

top job. His son, Beau, died at the end of May 2015 which was near the time for him to make a decision as to whether he was going to run in 2016. I don't believe that he ever lost that ambition to be president, but he saw the field getting filled with other candidates such as Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and it would have been difficult to carry on a national campaign while still in mourning. Biden, along with others, saw what the Republicans were offering as alternative with Jeb Bush being the frontrunner on the GOP side. Despite whomever was nominated in either party, he could see someone with a least a minimal amount of sensibility getting into the White House. Nobody in their right minds in 2015 would have ever projected Donald Trump as becoming leader of the Free World.

[Hortensis]

7. Well, he said so later and gave extremely credible reasons,

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and the primary source probably should be believed ahead of pundits regurgitating groupthink. He was no kid at that point either, now in his 70s. Trump thought it'd be one long string of parades and rallies. Biden was 6 years into the grueling reality.

However, Biden's a man of duty, positioned at that time as extremely few were, and would have wondered in 2015 if that was something he should be doing. Running for our first woman president was inherently risky, and aside from her there was no one approaching his stature in the lineup.

As you say about Trump. Biden would of course have expected the worst from the powerful RW character assassination machine he knew all about, including the MSM. What he might have suspected about the FBI's potential sedition we don't know, but its scope and actions over several months were unprecedented. Probably underestimated what would become a powerful synergy of Russian-augmented populist movements attacking from right and left.

I also believe if he could have seen into the future he would have run, believing they'd find him a more difficult target to take out. But that's different from wanting to, and our situation had degenerated extremely dangerously by the time he had to once again make that decision.

[lamp_shade]

5. That's why I choose Amy Klobuchar. nt

[Celerity]

9. Hard pass nt

[Dem2]

12. She's a good choice nt

[Bettie]

22. Not her

as someone else said, hard pass.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. It is extremely important this time

The VP must be ready to hit the ground running.

Harris or Klobuchar are very good choices.

[Trumpocalypse]

10. Both come from solid blue states

and won’t help flip any swing states. Neither will help attract progressive voters to the ticket. There are much better choices.

[Dem2]

13. MN was too close for comfort and shows why she's a good choice

Midwest appeal is a good thing considering where the Democratic party has been failing lately. How about attracting non-progressives? Seems like a large swath of voters that we need to win this fall.

[Trumpocalypse]

15. Minnesota is a solid blue state

It has a Democratic Governor and two Democratic Senators. It hasn’t voted for a Republican in a Presidential election since 1972.

And Biden is already attracting moderate voters, he doesn’t need another moderate on the ticket. Nor does he need someone who will not energize African Americans.

There are just so many better choices than Klobuchar.

[Demsrule86]

20. It has been trending red, and we barely won it in 16.

[Trumpocalypse]

24. It's a solid blue state

And the latest poll has Biden beating Trump by 12 points.

Even if it were a swing state, what would be the smarter pick a VP candidate who can help win Minnesota’s 10 electoral votes or one who could help win Florida’ 29 votes?

[Dem4Life1102]

27. Is that why it's Governor and both Senators are Democrats?

Doesn't sound like it is trending red to me.

[PunkinPi]

16. It's a shame progressives don't know that Harris is one of the most progressive senators...

higher lifetime ranking than either Sanders or Warren.


https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?house=senate

[Trumpocalypse]

25. That is true

but many think with their hearts and not their heads.

[PunkinPi]

32. I think a lot of it has to do with media narratives and biases as well. nt

[Trumpocalypse]

34. Again true

But a lot of progressives that I.know have issues with her time as a prosecutor. Many African Americans do too and with the fact she married a white guy.

[PunkinPi]

36. Again, people should actually research her record instead of believing smears.

As far as folks being ignorant, pfft.

[Trumpocalypse]

39. Unfortunately

Perception is reality.

[PunkinPi]

40. Which again goes back to media driven narratives and biases. nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. Ok then, let's see some names.

Those are the first two that come to my mind.

And gender is a must here.

[Dem4Life1102]

29. Well if you ask me

Better choices than either Harris or Klobuchar would be:

Keisha Lance Bottoms, Mayor of Atlanta
Catherine Cortez Masto, US Senator from Nevada
Gretchen Whitmer, Governor of Michigan
Val Demings of Florida
Stacy Abrams of Georgia

[Trumpocalypse]

11. Please don't peddle GOP talking points.

[betsuni]

14. What do you mean?

[irisblue]

18. Sen. Kamala Harris is my very strong choice for VP

I would be thrilled to see Sen. Klobachur or Sen. Warren as Majority Leader in the Senate.

[Demsrule86]

21. Neither have the seniority to be elected Majority Leader. Also, I love Amy, but a leader needs

to come from a deep blue state...not a state that has been trending red. We barely won Minnesota last time. We need our Senators to remain in the Senate. I have no idea who the VP is and trust Joe to choose wisely.

[Dem4Life1102]

26. Or how about someone

that can help flip a swing state like Florida?

[irisblue]

30. Val Demmings, Florida 10th? Is her Cong District steady blue?

[Dem4Life1102]

31. Maybe

She won Florida's 10th District in 2016 which had been Republican since 1984.

[irisblue]

33. Sen Harris or Rep Demmings, well it would be interesting to watch either debate Mr Pence

::evil laughter::

[Demsrule86]

19. Not true. Biden's Mom live to be 100+. We don't want a lame duck president period. As for VP, that

is up to Biden.

[Hekate]

28. No, it does not. Joe Biden is 100% more fit in every way than the current occupant...

He will stay healthy. He has earned our trust. He will choose someone he can work with.

We just have to get him there.

[jcgoldie]

35. wrong

Unless something serious medically happens to Joe Biden in that time there is no way they just decide to give up the greatest advantage in politics statistically which is incumbency. The "serve 4 years and then pass the torch" thing has been nonsense since people started discussing it a year ago.

[Niagara]

37. Just remember

You could lose your posting privileges by peddling repuke talking points and these talking points both have came mainly from Faux Noise and tRump. Joe Biden has released his medical history, he's in great shape!




https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/g29703876/presidential-candidates-2020-workout-routines/|

According to a campaign spokesperson, Biden, who turns 77 this month, stays in shape with cardio and weight lifting routines. (Last year, Biden’s brother called a SiriusXM political talk show and made the claim that the senior citizen ex-senator can bench press multiple reps of 185 pounds.)

He also exercises on a rowing machine and Peloton bike, according to the campaign. His eating habits include fruit juice and Greek yogurt for breakfast and salads with protein—usually fish—for lunch and dinner. Biden also indulges in the occasional pasta and red sauce and ice cream.

[mercuryblues]

38. Nope

Biden could choose a freaking rock and that would be better than trump.