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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn the C-19 outbreak: Now China made mistakes and was less then honest but they:
1) Isolated the virus and sequenced the C-19's genome in late November of early December.
2) They turned that information over to the W.H.O. and the W.H.O. passed that information
onto German scientists who used it to make a very good test for the disease. Trump refused
to use that test and now we and much of the world are dealing with a killer pandemic. That
very same test from the W.H.O./Germany was used to great success in Germany, Finland,
New Zealand, and Australia to help contain the disease.
Both Trump and Kushner knew of C-19 in November of 2019 and what did they do to help
get the country ready for the coming Pandemic? They invested in Hydroxycholorquine and
their own C-!9 test kits so they could make money from the disease.
Trump and Kushner also sent 18 tons of PPE to China in Feb. and that PPE equipment would
have protected doctors, nurses, and 1st responders form getting sick and in some cases dying
from C-19.
Trump is trying to blame China for his screw up.
malaise
(269,186 posts)Get thee to the greatest page
Botany
(70,589 posts)Trump is trying to shift the blame in his role in this nightmare. Including the multiple
warnings he and his administration had starting in Jan. of 2017 and how he either fired
or cut the funding of scientists who were on the ground in China including Wuhan looking
for coronaviruses that might cause a global pandemic.
This shit is on him.
malaise
(269,186 posts)In Shanghai, they are encouraging people to go out and eat.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)China tried to hide this shit, just like Donnie boy. They quit releasing their numbers, and the wet markets and their insatiable appetite for their "traditional medicine" is a plague on the world's people and wildlife.
The country is guilty of terrible human right violations from forced abortions to Tiannenmen Square.
Does that excuse Trump? Oh hell no. Does China suck? Unequivocally yes!
malaise
(269,186 posts)Ask the Iraqis about human rights - they may tell you about depleted uranium. Ask the people who watched their governments overthrown by the US. Look all the fucking world powers violate human rights at will.
Until we all accept facts, we will never clean up this mess.
Now the Con is doing to the US what the US did to others. ReTHUGs don't even want Americans to have the right to vote.
Pay attention please. The - they are evil and wicked meme and the US is the bastion of freedom and democracy no longer works. There are many wicked interests on this planet.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)A country with "death rooms" for unwanted baby girls to freeze and starve to death?
malaise
(269,186 posts)but it's always best to heal thyself first
EllieBC
(3,042 posts)I assume no one can criticize anyone ever. Easy out.
Im not giving Xi a pass on this. He started the fucking up and the rest of the world followed.
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)No worse than we have done, and have at least the excuse of the thing being new and unknown....
Blues Heron
(5,944 posts)assuming their published numbers are BS. Is it twice what they say? 5 times? ten? 100?
Clash City Rocker
(3,402 posts)Im not sure why they think China doing badly somehow excuses Trumps behavior. Its like talking to a five year old to have a political conversation with one of those fools.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)Exactly. Trump still had TWO months to prepare. And cut us off at our kneecaps due to negative actions he had already taken.
Tertullian
(46 posts)Perhaps the information flow from them was not as comprehensive as your personal standard for such, but, don't negatively characterize the whole country for that. That's borderline Racism.
China did everything humanly possible, and, we are going to need China in the years to come, so, the time to embrace China and reinforce our friendship with them is now. We need Biden or Hillary to be POTUS because they will repair Trump's damage to US/China relations.
Yes, I agree that Trump is shamefully blaming China. Of course, what happened to the USA is all Trump's fault and we need to amplify this talking point.
The best question now: Why is Trump constantly attacking China and trying to hurt China?
It's well-known that the USA itself funded and promoted research into Coronavirus manipulation. Why is China the "bad guy" here?
Calculating
(2,957 posts)How can you defend China here? Their government is evil as a matter of fact. They have no freedom and a government guilty of horrific human rights violations.
Wounded Bear
(58,719 posts)Sure, China is not blameless for what happened between Nov and Jan, but everything Feb and beyond is on Trump.
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)What happens when a virus originates in the USA? I dont think we want to open this Pandoras box of blame.
Calculating
(2,957 posts)Hell, I've heard they already have them opening back up. These disgusting open wildlife markets spawn pandemics and are driving endangered species extinct, but the government won't shut them down. That's on them.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)I agree.
Igel
(35,359 posts)No time to try to unmangle it.