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turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:31 PM May 2020

DeSantis is ready to declare victory but the coronavirus picture in Florida is still unclear

By Maeve Reston, CNN

Updated 12:13 PM ET, Sun May 3, 2020

(CNN)Epidemiologists are still baffled by how the coronavirus pandemic has played out thus far in Florida but the state's governor isn't waiting much longer to declare his response a win.

As Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis prepared to reopen much of his state Monday, he took a victory lap that began at the White House last week -- touting his "tailored" and "surgical" approach to stay-at-home orders as the central reason Florida has so far defied the dire predictions that it would become "way worse than Italy."

With his self-congratulatory news conferences, DeSantis sparked new debate over the stay-at-home measures in more restrictive states -- framing those measures as "draconian" compared to what he views as his more targeted approach. But a number of epidemiologists warned it is too early to jump to conclusions about what kept case numbers lower than expected.

Ridiculing the scientific models that DeSantis says overstated the crisis and encouraged a climate of fear, the Republican governor has chided critics who faulted his slow and often hapless response to the coronavirus in March when spring break revelers thronged Florida's beaches.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/politics/florida-reopening-desantis/index.html

Okay Desantis, why don't you stand outside Disney World there in Orlando, and welcome the visitors without gloves or a mask on to show everyone of your fucking victory lap................or go into the stands at Daytona and shake everyone's hands ...........I am calling you a chickenshit......................lead, show how you lead by doing no gloves, no masks............

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DeSantis is ready to declare victory but the coronavirus picture in Florida is still unclear (Original Post) turbinetree May 2020 OP
Frankly, DeSatan isn't smart enough to outsmart Corona ... GeorgeGist May 2020 #1
It sounds more... Newest Reality May 2020 #2
These fuckers DON"T WIN bluestarone May 2020 #3
I have my suspicions re: reporting cases Loge23 May 2020 #6
You are spot on. Alacritous Crier May 2020 #10
I agree bluestarone May 2020 #12
Don't we already know that the count is being suppressed Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #15
He's talking about opening a few things. Disney is not one of them. jimfields33 May 2020 #4
They are probably lying about the numbers Darwin2019 May 2020 #5
Victory? If this a sport? Morigami May 2020 #7
"unclear" my ASS !!! Florida's daily test rate over there last 6 weeks are horrid uponit7771 May 2020 #8
Could weather be a factor? crimycarny May 2020 #9
many beachgoers spread out across the east coast when their vacations were over bigtree May 2020 #11
Don't forget the Spring Breakers who carried the virus to *other* states. nt tblue37 May 2020 #13
DeSantis is going full Floriduh man. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #14

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. It sounds more...
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:39 PM
May 2020

It sounds more like bowing to defeat based on incompetence and ulterior motives that are divorced from the reality and suffering of human life. For people, server illness, death and the long-term chronic effects of this disease for some is actual, felt and pervasive.

Bow to the virus you conquered worms. That's easy to do when you are not out on the front-lines leading like some conqueror's would do in days of old. No, this is not a victory when you sit safely like a true coward and lead like a imbecile.

I agree with the OP. Republican Governers, et all, should be out there greeting their maskless followers up close and unprotected. That should inspire confidence in the freedumb fighters tiny little minds and, perhaps, prove Darwin right again. They can self-select for deletion an debilitation.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
6. I have my suspicions re: reporting cases
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:09 PM
May 2020

Florida's percentage of fatal COVID-19 cases is currently 3.8%, which ranks 35th in the nation in that category.
The number of cases in Florida is 36,078, ranking 8th among all states.

The top three states for cases and deaths are New York (320,002 cases- 7.7% fatality rate), New Jersey (126,744 -6.2%), and Massachusetts (66,263 -5.8%). The nationwide rate of fatal cases from the COVID-19 virus is 5.8%.

Arguably, the three northeastern states mentioned above have superior health care - just ask someone who splits their time between one of these states and Florida.
In fact, the Agency for Heathcare Research and Quality (AHRQ), ranks Massachusetts in the top 10 nationwide, with New York and New Jersey in the middle of the pack. Florida comes in in the bottom 10.
Point is - and this is speculation - I can't place too much faith in the reported numbers from Florida.

Florida is home to a very high number of elderly people, typically victimized by this virus. Either we're not getting the true picture of cases/mortalities or we're in for a very sad awakening when the numbers catch up.
With the political situation and leadership of Florida squarely in batshit crazy territory, either or both scenarios are possible.

Alacritous Crier

(3,818 posts)
10. You are spot on.
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:50 PM
May 2020

There is no way the bodycounts are not being suppressed.

When the truth comes out, Florida will have one of the highest.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,438 posts)
15. Don't we already know that the count is being suppressed
Mon May 4, 2020, 03:27 PM
May 2020

Wasn't there an official who made an inconvenient report/remark at a meeting dismissed or disappeared too?

Darwin2019

(217 posts)
5. They are probably lying about the numbers
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:02 PM
May 2020

I heard they are only counting Florida residents, not snowbirds or visitors. Probably not including nursing homes either.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
9. Could weather be a factor?
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:28 PM
May 2020

Humidity in a certain range seems to inhibit the viral particles spread. 50% humidity being ideal. Florida humidity now in the 50% range.


https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-humidity-may-affect-covid-19-outcome

(Interesting note about using humidifiers indoors during the winter...this never occurred to me)

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
11. many beachgoers spread out across the east coast when their vacations were over
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:53 PM
May 2020

...infecting other states.

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