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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: Massive fire at the Abbco Tower in Sharjah, UAE. The residential skyscraper is 48 stories
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Delphinus
(12,033 posts)it's burning like wood!
BamaRefugee
(3,640 posts)JCMach1
(27,849 posts)I used to shop at the mall very close to this. I know this area. They built so densely that fighting this would be almost impossible. Additionally, other buildings are extremely close.
mahatmakanejeeves
(59,742 posts)Celerity
(46,154 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Dubai has had a couple. They throw these buildings up in a hurry, as beautiful as they are.
EDIT: Wow, it's a huge fire. At night. Did they have time to evacuate people?
EDIT: FYI, it's five minutes to midnight in Sharjah. Awful time for a fire like this...
Celerity
(46,154 posts)The Torch - one of the tallest residential towers in the world - went up in flames for a second time on August 4. Antonie Robertson / The National
Developers are hiring fire experts to assess the aluminium cladding on apartment blocks but more owners must come forward to evaluate risks and formulate strategies to ensure the safety of residents. Regular maintenance of safety equipment, fire drills and strict enforcement of fines is key to keeping older buildings with flammable aluminium cladding safe from fires, experts said. Authorities are currently working with experts to study if fire barriers can be added to delay the spread of a blaze in buildings with aluminium panels with a combustible thermoplastic core. But these are long-term measure and experts said other important steps can be taken in the interim.
I dont believe we can do it with one entity like an authority going around and looking at all the buildings. The way to do it is to ask anyone who owns the buildings to make that assessment and pool all that information, said Andy Dean, head of facades at engineering firm WSP. Everybody who owns a building really ought to be thinking about assessing their level of risk because, until you know the nature and extent of the problem, how can you fix it? So either a homeowners association or an office landlord gets involved, whoever is charged with the responsibility of that building. I cant see any good reason why anyone would wait any longer.
A basic assessment to sketch out the extent of problems can cost a developer just Dh20,000. Nobody wants to be alarmist but a lot of the more responsible developers and building owners are assessing their building stock. They are looking for expert advice, some of them on a single building basis, to make that initial assessment and understand where the problems are and trying to quantify it, Mr Dean said. You dont have to spend a fortune doing it but its money well spent. There have been strong calls for enhanced safety after the second fire in as many years recently gripped Dubai Marinas The Torch tower, one of the worlds tallest residential buildings, and the tragic Grenfell Fire in London that killed 79 people, fuelled by flammable aluminium panelling. Cladding has also fuelled the flames in at least five major tower fires in the UAE over the past five years.
Of these, Dubai Police said that the 2012 fire in Tamweel Tower in Jumeirah Lakes Towers was caused by a cigarette butt thrown into a waste bin containing flammable material including paper. Experts have estimated that between 65 to 70 per cent buildings in the UAE have some form of aluminium panels surrounding a thermoplastic core, but civil defence officials have refuted the figure, saying that a much smaller percentage of buildings had non-fire rated exterior cladding. Official data is not available. Authorities in the UAE banned this cladding following the federal 2012 Fire and Life Safety Code but concerns remain for buildings constructed before the code. While the cost to replace the entire cladding is prohibitive and, in many cases, not possible due to the placement and coverage of the exterior covering, occupants must be more aware of the risks.
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Mike 03
(16,616 posts)I wonder if this is the same issue as befell Grenfell Tower in the UK. IIRC it was a combustible cladding issue, but I can't remember if aluminum was involved.
Celerity
(46,154 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Celerity
(46,154 posts)It has very near to White City, a large shopping mall.
Horrid tragedy, and a testament to greed.
mahatmakanejeeves
(59,742 posts)There were building code issues at play. I can participate in any search at DU for this. When was that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire
June 14, 2017
Hit the DU archives.
redstatebluegirl
(12,392 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Link to tweet
Text: It took several drones, at least a dozen fire trucks, and scores of firefighters but authorities finally put out a massive #fire that ravaged the 40-floor Abbco Tower in #AlNahda #Sharjah. Cooling ops underway
And haunting video of the building enveloped in unimaginably thick black smoke, like it's smoldering.
Celerity
(46,154 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)I do hope everyone got out in time.