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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Wed May 6, 2020, 10:40 PM May 2020

Why in the hell does Susan Rice have to defend herself alone??

on pandemic handoff? She's on CNN right now. She briefed Flynn. Wtf. Where's Obama? Where's Biden?

Unless they think she's bullshitting? Our party is rutterless. Sadest part of it all next to all the horror of death that surrounds us.

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Why in the hell does Susan Rice have to defend herself alone?? (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 OP
Asked a question, I guess, so had to respond? elleng May 2020 #1
Flynn was in charge of NSA at transition time. This is huge Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #5
Prez Obama warned him against flynn, didn't he? elleng May 2020 #8
Yes, but he's relevant to the specific accusation that trump Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #15
Hardly expect Susan Rice to have to 'defend' against lies from trump, elleng May 2020 #18
Expect Susan Rice because she's on her own, sad to say. Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #20
More attacks on Obama greenjar_01 May 2020 #2
Wtf? I have never attacked President Obama, never. But you hear Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #7
ROFL greenjar_01 May 2020 #13
Go back Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #16
Huh? greenjar_01 May 2020 #17
Ah, makes total sense, welcome to DU Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #9
FFS, get a grip. demmiblue May 2020 #3
Wtf Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #10
Donate Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #22
Well, if Biden picks her as VP she'll have quite a story to tell and quite an audience. n/t blitzen May 2020 #4
She doesn't need defending. She does just fine on her own The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #6
I get that! But we are taking ALL the marbles here. Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #11
++++++++++++++++++++!! 2naSalit May 2020 #12
Wow. We are not talking about gender here! We are talking Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #23
She doesn't. Many Obama people have made the same points karynnj May 2020 #14
Many Obama people? Well haven't heard a single Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #19
I watch less than 16 hours, but have heard several people speak of it karynnj May 2020 #24
The key is not in obscure articles or tweets that are lost among Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #27
Not everyone's lives are run by what is on 24 Hour Cable news shows JI7 May 2020 #21
So what? What does that have to do with anything? I have Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #25
that's because you only pay attention to 24 hour cable news whose main purpose is ratings instead of JI7 May 2020 #26
That's bullshit. You have zero clue about what I do, what I read, Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #28
Should be 'rudderless' btw canetoad May 2020 #29
Yes, explains a lot. Why we are losing the media game. Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #30
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. Flynn was in charge of NSA at transition time. This is huge
Wed May 6, 2020, 10:47 PM
May 2020

to me...that trump frivolously appointed a traitor ( as the judge called him) to be in charge. And pandemic preparedness fell apart from that day forward. Trump is responsible for many deaths.

elleng

(131,129 posts)
8. Prez Obama warned him against flynn, didn't he?
Wed May 6, 2020, 10:50 PM
May 2020

flynn's been 'traitorous' for a long time, and of course trump should have known, so the 'huge' part is OLD.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. Yes, but he's relevant to the specific accusation that trump
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:02 PM
May 2020

keeps making - that Obama left him unprepared. He left the security of the nation in the hands of a traitor for a couple months. Who the hell knows if Flynn transferred any knowledge to successor.

It is utterly amazing to me that Obama and Biden don't speak out on this. And I love them both and have Democratic blue blood in my veins from generations.

elleng

(131,129 posts)
18. Hardly expect Susan Rice to have to 'defend' against lies from trump,
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:06 PM
May 2020

that President Obama left him unprepared.

The facts on 'preparedness' are in the public record, we've seen and heard them many times.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. Wtf? I have never attacked President Obama, never. But you hear
Wed May 6, 2020, 10:50 PM
May 2020

it over and over and over again, that he left the country unprepared for a pandemic. If you would ever speak up, ever, in defense, then when???

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
14. She doesn't. Many Obama people have made the same points
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:00 PM
May 2020

Biden had a very well written tweet that responded to Trump lies listing the truth. Obviously, ANY Obama person who is interviewed will be asked that type of series of questions. The good news is that they are very comfortable knowing they worked hard to develop procedures and a department to deal with anything like this.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. Many Obama people? Well haven't heard a single
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:08 PM
May 2020

one. And the tweets are not reaching the masses. Guess I should watch news more than 16 hrs a day.

Don't mean to sound flip, sorry

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
24. I watch less than 16 hours, but have heard several people speak of it
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:22 PM
May 2020

The ones that seem to be on the most on MSNBC were Ben Rhodes and Ron Klain. Kathleen Sebilius, who ran HHS was on as well.

Biden himself has repeatedly spoken of what the Obama team did on Ebola and how they then established procedures to deal with future threats. This was said in various interviews and he started speaking of that even in the last debate.

As far back as January 2017, there were many articles on how the Trump team blew off most of the normal transition meetings. Trump has repeatedly been quoted that he has no need to get advice from any former President.

I think part of my reaction is that I have not seen any sign of Susan Rice being attacked on this. Trump obviously has blamed Obama because he does that any time things go wrong. Here, it is a lie AND even if Obama left him nothing, he has been president over 3 years. He is well past the time that any blaming his predecessor works.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. The key is not in obscure articles or tweets that are lost among
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:35 PM
May 2020

literally millions of others. And no one we want to reach is watching MSNBC.

The key is in mastering the media and making huge and cogent points reach the masses. Media savy. Unless we master that we are in for another 4 years of the devil incarnate.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. So what? What does that have to do with anything? I have
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:22 PM
May 2020

heard trump say a zillion times that we left him unprepared. Don't need to watch news all the time to have heard that. I have NEVER heard anyone give a cogent rebuttal to this except for Susan Rice. Please correct me if I am wrong.

JI7

(89,271 posts)
26. that's because you only pay attention to 24 hour cable news whose main purpose is ratings instead of
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:27 PM
May 2020

reporting on the facts.

canetoad

(17,190 posts)
29. Should be 'rudderless' btw
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:42 PM
May 2020

What exactly do you require from Obama and Biden? Storm the studio unannounced? Call in?

It seems a pointless question to which no answer will please you. Susan Rice can take care of herself.

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