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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave you noticed a nutball overlap between COVID deniers & antivaxxers? There's something new...
I recently told the antivaxxer I know that she is not to talk about that any more to me. She also believes she and her kids must be immune to COVID because the lingering bug they had in February was probably, well, you know.
So today she was talking to my husband and came up with the following "information" about making vaccines: aborted fetuses and pig DNA, meaning it's an abomination plus no Muslim can ever be vaccinated. This is straight from the anti-abortion nuts, with an added dose of I'm not sure what.
This is an amazing overlap of sheer nuttery.
Gods help this country.
NameAlreadyTaken
(977 posts)Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)Because of lack of trust in any and all science, which is considered to be or to have been taken over by an evil force.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)relayerbob
(6,544 posts)These have been trained such Ronny Raygun to disbelieve fact and that education is a bad thing
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)If you told them sodium chloride was a dangerous ingredient, they would believe you. Oh, and watch out for those monosaccharides, and that dihydrogen monoxide is part of a plot to kill us all slowly...very slowly.
All that stuff should be banned!
OhZone
(3,212 posts)brewens
(13,587 posts)theory was at a small town summer bash last year with a few of us. A woman from there is friends with all of us and had been treated for cancer, which was looking like successfully. Nut lady latches onto the cancer patient and starts bending her ear over this crackpot cancer "doctor" that has the "cure" that is being suppressed. This lady was looking good, said she was doing well, and was obviously pleased with how things had gone so far. She looked really uncomfortable, like she wanted to get away. It was embarrassing.
Nut lady is also a devout Trump worshipper of course.
Alex4Martinez
(2,193 posts)iemitsu
(3,888 posts)the police have been involved in breaking up two Covid 19 parties, where participants were purposefully exposing themselves to someone who had been infected.
The police there said they had had trouble with measles parties in the past, with the same group of antivaxxers.
What idiots.
Today the Chinese revealed that the virus is settling in the testicles and has been found in semen.
Will the virus turn out to be sexually transmitted?
And this does not even take into account what they are exposing their smarter neighbors to.
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)and their ability to rely on exemptions to mandatory vaccination.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)Hekate
(90,690 posts)...an intelligent woman can be.
Igel
(35,309 posts)I don't think I saw that many of them in the pictures.
The other half I still think of as "New Agers" (but that's my age)--all natural, ayurvedic woo-hounds into sage burning and nice aromas as therapy. I'm damned sure I didn't see many of those in the pictures.
The foolishness that a person must be immune since they had something suspiciously like the flu in February ... or January ... or December ... or even in f--king November or October ... That's not unheard of here. I find it harder to tolerate foolishness from "my kind" than from outsiders, to be honest.
Animals used to be more widespread in vaccine production (not just testing). https://www.researchgate.net/publication/46705953_Three_Rs_achievements_in_vaccinology, for instance. Horses were used for some things (here's an example: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/scientists-find-way-make-diphtheria-treatment-without-injecting-horses-toxin ) Pigs used to be used for some vaccines, but that was decades ago.
Years ago they'd from time to time have pictures of people injecting viral cultures into eggs for flu vaccine production. It meant that people allergic to egg albumin had a difficult time with the flu vaccine.
Notice the "cell line" bit in the "Three Rs" article. Where do you think the cell lines come from?
Thing is, once something's in print it can be quoted, fairly uncritically. Esp. if it suits the narrative and it's how people think things are done. Then it's really hard for people to question what they know is obviously true. I mean, they know, why double check? (I once had a pastor tell me that rennet was in no way related to any animal. Duh. Traditionally it's from sheep or calve stomachs, but most animal rennet these days is cow or pig. There's vegetable rennet, but that's labeled "vegetable" ... As opposed to what, mineral rennet? )
I keep kosher, at least in a crude sort of way (I like some Pakistani dishes with yoghurt and beef, so the milk and meat prohibition, not something I fret over). I checked into a hospital once, emaciated from an illness. Told the nice admissions people no pork; told the nurse no pork. Had a nice old pork chop on top of the dinner they gave me. I ate the fruit. Next morning, pork sausage and sausage grease on everything. I ate the fruit. A nice psychologist showed up to ask if I was anorexic; I said I kept kosher, told them I kept kosher, and asked why they kept pushing pork at me. He made sure nobody pushed pork at me. Then the MD put me on a heparin drip. Most US heparin is made in China, from pig. The *doctor* didn't where heparin came from.
I'd give the idiot a score of maybe 50% right. "Cell lines", yup. Pig, not any more.
icymist
(15,888 posts)Judy Mikovits is a disgraced scientist who claimed a retrovirus caused chronic fatigue syndrome, results later soundly refuted. She went antivaccine for a while but has now been reborn as a COVID-19 grifter.
https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/05/06/judy-mikovits-pandemic/?fbclid=IwAR0PxUAVdf4D_y2jFXRibB4GL8AfBii2xPkm7AZuyT-I3nQPUibZKZlyTp4
It's crazy.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)most frightened first.