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William769

(55,147 posts)
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:41 PM May 2020

My heart is breaking so bad right now, I just can't take anymore.

My 90-Year-old Mother-in-law has been in a nursing home four years it was hard for her to go in, but she still has mobility and her mind. She has endured the last two months with stride with me going to the window & sitting with her.

Inside they were able to move around go listen to music, play bingo, visit with friends & go to the dining hall.

Well as of today, even that's all gone. All residents have been confined to thier rooms with all doors closed until further notice. Personal coming into the rooms all decked out in contamination wear, Gowns, masks, gloves & plastic face shields.

I have been on the phone the past hour trying to console her and I just can't get her to stop crying.

And she keeps saying to me I see on the TV where they are opening stuff up and they are treating us like prisoners.

I am going to have to cry myself to sleep tonight.

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My heart is breaking so bad right now, I just can't take anymore. (Original Post) William769 May 2020 OP
OMG, that's horrible! Rae May 2020 #1
I have no authority to do anything William769 May 2020 #4
I am so sorry. Rae May 2020 #13
Can she demand to live with you? SheltieLover May 2020 #14
Does she have legal standing to make decisions for herself? Crunchy Frog May 2020 #26
Somebody does? lostnfound May 2020 #41
Been in that situation prior to this pandemic and it is depressing. Frustratedlady May 2020 #2
Awww. Newest Reality May 2020 #3
I am so sorry. To have all ones faculties intact and living like that has to be so hard... hlthe2b May 2020 #5
Yes they are doing what's best for the residents but explaining that to her is the problem. William769 May 2020 #9
I am so sorry handmade34 May 2020 #6
So sorry to hear that William. It must be very painful. smirkymonkey May 2020 #7
So SAD for you and your family! bluestarone May 2020 #8
Oh no! Please take heart! My mother's facility has been pnwest May 2020 #10
Sorry but I believe you missed my post completely. William769 May 2020 #12
I'm so sorry. tanyev May 2020 #11
I know. It's a very very bad time to be very ill or elderly Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #20
Love to you and your MIL. sheshe2 May 2020 #15
Thank you my dear. William769 May 2020 #17
I am so sorry. madaboutharry May 2020 #16
FWIW alwaysinasnit May 2020 #18
You were communicating with her through a window. Can they move her to a room where you Karadeniz May 2020 #19
I am sure it is very scary for her...but it is actually the safest approach. The opposite is that Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #21
My SIL's father died last night of Covid mcar May 2020 #22
& my thoughts & prayers are with you and your family. William769 May 2020 #23
Thank you mcar May 2020 #25
My thoughts are with you,mcar True Blue American May 2020 #50
It is a terrible disease mcar May 2020 #56
It is so sad when our loved ones die alone. brer cat May 2020 #51
I am so sorry for your families loss, mcar. sheshe2 May 2020 #57
What a blessing that she has you in her life. jmbar2 May 2020 #24
The executives are being extra safe. Better applegrove May 2020 #27
Luckily, she is in a single-story building with four wings. William769 May 2020 #28
I wish you all well. I know how hard it is to not be near your lived one in these times. nt applegrove May 2020 #33
My mother-in-law is in a very similar situation. warmfeet May 2020 #29
I am so sorry, William! I've thought so many times of how terrible pnwmom May 2020 #30
Sending love cp May 2020 #31
cry with her. that's all we got at this point. mopinko May 2020 #32
My husband is going throught the same thing. Resist160 May 2020 #34
Same at my 97 y/o mother-in-law's facility. DemoTex May 2020 #35
I am so sorry, William. murielm99 May 2020 #36
OMG, I am so sorry to heat that. greatauntoftriplets May 2020 #37
I know someone living with their mother nitpicker May 2020 #38
I'm so Sorry for what you and your family are going Cha May 2020 #39
My 90-YO Mom is going through this, too. TygrBright May 2020 #40
Can you set her up with facetime, or zoom? Ms. Toad May 2020 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes May 2020 #47
My mom has been mostly confined to her apt marlakay May 2020 #43
Satan himself is behind this. pwb May 2020 #44
Oh, I Am So Very Sorry DarthDem May 2020 #45
So sorry. My father has been essentially locked in his apartment for 6 weeks. It is very spooky3 May 2020 #46
That is heartbreaking and frightening uppityperson May 2020 #48
We have the same situation True Blue American May 2020 #49
I'm so sorry, Bill. brer cat May 2020 #52
I'm so sorry. AirmensMom May 2020 #53
... Wawannabe May 2020 #54
my son's mother in law..has just died in nursing home Rene May 2020 #55
I'm so very sorry. Sophiegirl May 2020 #58
 

Rae

(84 posts)
1. OMG, that's horrible!
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:43 PM
May 2020

Could she possibly live with you or other family until this is over? You said she's mobile, so is that a possibility?

William769

(55,147 posts)
4. I have no authority to do anything
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:47 PM
May 2020

Her son, my life partner passed away in 2006. I have no legal standing.

 

Rae

(84 posts)
13. I am so sorry.
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:54 PM
May 2020

I thank God every day my 85 year old mom has her own apartment and lives 5 minutes from me and my sister.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
26. Does she have legal standing to make decisions for herself?
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:21 PM
May 2020

If she's still of sound mind, she should be able to make her own choices.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. Been in that situation prior to this pandemic and it is depressing.
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:46 PM
May 2020

Even though the home is nice and the people are helpful, it is much different than being in your own home. She will probably get used to it, but it still stings. Talking it out should help, but you have to remember all decisions are being made for her and she doesn't feel like she has any control anymore.

Good luck with your communication. It isn't easy, for sure.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
3. Awww.
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:46 PM
May 2020

I am so sorry. That is terrible. I hope it gets better.

Hang in there and do let the tears flow if you feel bad.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
5. I am so sorry. To have all ones faculties intact and living like that has to be so hard...
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:49 PM
May 2020

I know they are trying to do the best by all the residents but this is just tragic. Do you have any way to facetime or skype with her?

William769

(55,147 posts)
9. Yes they are doing what's best for the residents but explaining that to her is the problem.
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:51 PM
May 2020

Not to my knowledge but I will call tomorrow & ask.

Thanks for that tip.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. So sorry to hear that William. It must be very painful.
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:50 PM
May 2020

Talk about it as much as you can and, if you are so inclined, get your thoughts down on paper. It will give you some relief instead of keeping it all bottled up. I hope things improve for you and your mom.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
10. Oh no! Please take heart! My mother's facility has been
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:52 PM
May 2020

doing that for two weeks, and they’ve been SO great about going in everyone’s rooms entertaining then multiple times a day, offering to help us FaceTime as often as we want, doing their absolute best to keep everyone from being lonely. And the measures are working, there’s been a few cases of Covid, but they’ve worked hard to keep the spread down. It seems awful, but they’re working hard to make it as good as it can be. If it keeps her safe and healthy it will be worth it. Don’t cry, try to think of the trade off - her continued health.

tanyev

(42,558 posts)
11. I'm so sorry.
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:53 PM
May 2020

Mom died in 2018 and spent the last few months in a nursing home. Hardly a day has gone by that I haven’t thought about how hard it would have been for her to go through this without any visitors or confined to her room.

sheshe2

(83,770 posts)
15. Love to you and your MIL.
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:57 PM
May 2020

Breaks my heart Bill, she is aware and knows exactly what is going on. This makes it harder for her.

We are lucky mom is here with us, hard work...yet she is here.

Karadeniz

(22,516 posts)
19. You were communicating with her through a window. Can they move her to a room where you
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:04 PM
May 2020

Can place a chair outside her window? If they have a heart, they should try to accommodate. I'm sorry this has happened.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. I am sure it is very scary for her...but it is actually the safest approach. The opposite is that
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:13 PM
May 2020

They are careless. So maybe dwelling on that might help?

What's seen on TV and what's happening all around us is absurd. And it is criminal negligence from the top down.

Went to look up those CDC guidelines for reopening America...NADA. then I read that trump fucking trashed the guidelines. WTF. This is murder to me.

mcar

(42,331 posts)
22. My SIL's father died last night of Covid
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:14 PM
May 2020

He had Parkinson's and was deteriorating. Covid has swept through the nursing home in the last week or so.

He was a lovely man and his family couldn't be with him when he died.

Bill, I am so sorry for what your MIL is going through. It is all so cruel.

mcar

(42,331 posts)
25. Thank you
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:19 PM
May 2020

I feel for my SIL and her family, and my niece and nephew. They all knew it was coming but the isolation... well, you know.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
50. My thoughts are with you,mcar
Sat May 9, 2020, 04:50 AM
May 2020

Parkinson’s is a terrible disease. My DIL’s Father died from it. A successful,kind,loving man.

I feel for your family.

mcar

(42,331 posts)
56. It is a terrible disease
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:26 AM
May 2020

He was quite a vigorous man, a retired small town police chief, very healthy. The toll Parkinson's took on him was just awful to watch.

jmbar2

(4,886 posts)
24. What a blessing that she has you in her life.
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:18 PM
May 2020

{{{hugs}}} to you for your loving kindness, and sadness. I hope that a better solution can emerge soon.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
27. The executives are being extra safe. Better
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:24 PM
May 2020

a nursing home with vigilant policies during a coronavirus than not. As hard as it is, tell your mother-in-law the nursing home is doing it so she will be safe. That you love her. That you will talk to her on the phone for hours a day. My dad has been in lockdown meals in his room since they had 3 staff members test positive. Thankfully he tested negative. He is also somewhat oblivious. They tested the whole building. Think of all residents going down the elevator with staff to go to a window to wave to family. If your building has 180 people that is 400 people in the elevators in a few days. They think elevators are one of the main reasons NYCity got coronavirus so big. COVID-19 tiniest droplets stay suspended in the elevator air for more than a few minutes. And anybody who gets on is in that cloud of coronavirus. Cry with your mother-in-law and let out your fear and frustration. But she is luckier than most. She has you.

William769

(55,147 posts)
28. Luckily, she is in a single-story building with four wings.
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:35 PM
May 2020

She is in a good nursing home (no covid-19 there yet as far as we know). The news is what's making it hard for me to explain things to her, but I try.

Thank you for your sweet words.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
29. My mother-in-law is in a very similar situation.
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:35 PM
May 2020

She is in a long term care facility that has been in lock down since late March. We are not allowed to visit her and the residents are not allowed to interact in person. She has good days, she has bad days. We are allowed to drive by her window and wave. We can call her and talk to her. This will be a defining time in the next century. We have no choice but to endure the best we can. The meaning of "the best we can" has changed a great deal.

I am sorry for those who are suffering.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
30. I am so sorry, William! I've thought so many times of how terrible
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:36 PM
May 2020

this would have been for my mom, who had moderate dementia and spent some time in a nursing home. It was a good place and she was happy there, but that was because she stayed connected with our family, and she eventually died surrounded by family. She would have been fighting a separation like this tooth and nail.

I KNOW this isn't a substitute for human contact, but is there any chance of getting an iPad to her, so she could have FaceTime conversations with you and other family members?

Resist160

(18 posts)
34. My husband is going throught the same thing.
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:52 PM
May 2020

I know what you are going through. My husband's brother is in assisted living & he has been confined for 2 weeks now. The facility serves him his meals in his room. He could walk out in the hall but no one else can be around. When the weather is nice they come & ask him if he wants to go for a walk around the building. They take his temperature daily. My husband said he can see him brother going down hill.

DemoTex

(25,397 posts)
35. Same at my 97 y/o mother-in-law's facility.
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:54 PM
May 2020

And a 97 year old friend of hers died yesterday .. from COVID-19.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
36. I am so sorry, William.
Fri May 8, 2020, 07:58 PM
May 2020

I wish there was something I could do. We are all so helpless now. The heartless monsters running our country has brought this on all our families.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,735 posts)
37. OMG, I am so sorry to heat that.
Fri May 8, 2020, 08:05 PM
May 2020

And, of course, they can't tell her (or you) when these extreme restrictions are likely to be lifted. Have they said that there is Covid 19 in the nursing home? Good for you for going to visit through the window. It certainly helps both of you get through this.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
38. I know someone living with their mother
Fri May 8, 2020, 08:07 PM
May 2020

And working to keep the mom housebound.

The issue is:

Available data from state websites (depending on how they choose to present the data, not all separate the 80+ or 85+ people out from the 65-79 group) suggest that if those much older people get noticeable CV, roughly half of them go into hospital and half of those don't make it out alive. The range of data publicly available suggests for those reported as having CV, the death rate could be as low as 10% or as high as 30% plus. ((Someone is going to have to analyse UT data to determine if doctors were determined to blame comorbid conditions for deaths, or if it genuinely shows the effects of most eschewing ABC ((alcohol, baccy and caffeine)) and/or having lots of family to take care of the elderly so they aren't in group care settings.))

Of course, it COULD be that a lot more CV, even in this population, is being thought of as a "Really Bad Bug", but I wouldn't count on it.

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
40. My 90-YO Mom is going through this, too.
Fri May 8, 2020, 08:19 PM
May 2020

And she's got memory issues, so it's a fresh pain every day.

She's so far away and there's so little I can do.

brokenheartedly,
Bright

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
42. Can you set her up with facetime, or zoom?
Fri May 8, 2020, 08:28 PM
May 2020

My 93 year old aunt is in a similar situation, any my spouse (and lots of other nieces and nephews) chat with her on facetime daily. It's not the same, but generally better than phone.

(It's pretty late in the game - but they really do need to minimize contact. My 88 year old parents have been on lockdown since the first week of March. The best you can do is try to minimize the social impact.)

Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #42)

marlakay

(11,468 posts)
43. My mom has been mostly confined to her apt
Fri May 8, 2020, 08:37 PM
May 2020

For almost 2 months in her senior home. She is 92. We my two daughters and I do FB video chat every Sunday morning where we all do yoga together and mom just moves her arms and watches us then we have long chat.

I text her all week. She plays scrabble online a bunch of games with lots of relatives.

Her birthday was a few days ago. My older daughter is the one that lives closest to her 45 min, I am out of state. She wanted to visit but they haven't been allowing for last 2 months. So we put money together and got her beautiful flowers, chocolates and balloons. Her granddaughter n law sent her more flowers and a bear. Then they let my daughter visit with mask and taking her fever. Made my moms day!

My mom is on third floor so we couldn't go outside window. But she does have tiny balcony and can at least sit outside.

pwb

(11,267 posts)
44. Satan himself is behind this.
Fri May 8, 2020, 08:40 PM
May 2020

Dying alone with love kept out is as cruel as it gets and that is how we are dying.

spooky3

(34,452 posts)
46. So sorry. My father has been essentially locked in his apartment for 6 weeks. It is very
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:31 PM
May 2020

hard for residents. But we have set him up on Zoom (as Ms. Toad suggested). Your MIL may be able to learn how to do this if you give her a set of steps to follow, and it really does help for them to be able to see family members and friends. It's no substitute for all of the activities' and social contacts' being restricted, but it is better than nothing.

Fortunately, relatives who live in the same town are taking him groceries and helping him in other ways - they aren't allowed to go in. Groceries have to be dropped off near the reception desk.

It's not only lonely for them, it is scary.

Despite these restrictions, a number of residents have come down with COVID, sadly. I'm sure that these restrictions have kept it from being even worse.

I hope that soon restrictions will be eased for her.

She is lucky to have a caring son-in-law.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
48. That is heartbreaking and frightening
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:30 AM
May 2020

They are trying to keep her safe as the coronavirus must be in the facility. She'll be much safer than those going out in public without precautions. I know you know all this, hugs and love to you and your mom.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
49. We have the same situation
Sat May 9, 2020, 04:42 AM
May 2020

In my family. My DIL’s Mother is in the same situation. She is 96, but over the years we have become really good friends. Have traveled together, always having big family get togethers at my Son and DIL’s House. It is so hard on all of us. Had a big party for her at the Retirement Center Clubhouse last year.

Now she is totally isolated.

My heart hurts for you but know they are keeping her safe.

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
52. I'm so sorry, Bill.
Sat May 9, 2020, 09:23 AM
May 2020

For her to be cut off from all interaction with people must be devastating, and frightening to only see people in contamination gear.

Please take care of yourself and do what you can to comfort your MIL.

Rene

(1,183 posts)
55. my son's mother in law..has just died in nursing home
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:05 AM
May 2020

She never had the virus....they don't have a single case of patient or staff having Covid19.
She died in confusion.....refusing to eat....because of the lack of visitors these last 4-5 weeks. She was all alone and noone could go in to see her. She refused to eat and has now passed away. and we cannot have any type of service.
These are the saddest days. She'd been a somewhat healthy 96 year old.
I'm so glad we had a wonderful Birthday Party for her three months ago... She was beaming, smiling all day long,...seeing all her family and friends at her daughter's home.

Rosemary is now with her Jim, in Heaven. Our Irish Lad and Lassie.

Her beaming smile lit up the room.

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