If Trump handed out free blankets, tainted with Covid to the American people.

[shockey80]

This is how the news media, Democrats in Congress, the people would respond.

Wow! That's bad, he's crazy. We better vote him out in November or we will be in big trouble.

What Trump has done is no less egregious than handing out free blankets tainted with the virus.

Trump on video, knowingly, systematically planned to deceive the American people about a deadly virus he knew would infect millions. It has led to the death of tens of thousands of Americans. It has led to a financial crisis that has ruined the lives of millions of Americans. This is the definition of Crimes Against Humanity.

How are the news media , Democrats in Congress, the people responding? Wow! That's bad, he's crazy. We better vote him out in November or we will be in big trouble.

The way the American people have responded to what Trump has done is flat out abnormal, insane. There has not been a normal, sane response, movement demanding Trump resign immediately. There has not been a rational coordinated nation wide response to the crime Trump has committed. Crimes Against Humanity.

Why? Why? Why? There is no logical reason news organizations, Democrats in congress, the people should not be accusing Trump of Crimes against Humanity. There is no logical reason not to demand Trump resign immediately, everyday, all day.

[malaise]

1. Agree

He should be marched out of the WH for crimes against humanity.
What is worse is that he is willing to spend taxpaters' money to protect himself and his inner circle.

[HAB911]

2. It is disheartening all the institutions seem neutered

I don't understand how all the safeguards are failing us. He isn't that smart. How could this be happening?

[pdxflyboy]

5. HAB911...

I believe that there are nefarious people advising [directing] Trump who are very smart and extremely evil.

[HAB911]

7. that would not surprise me either

to what end? Opportunistic chaos, class and racial genocide is what I see as the plan

[rampartc]

18. the disease will save lots of money on social security and medicaid long term

most nursing home residents contribute little to the economy and are maintained by medicaid.

[mopinko]

3. reminds me of this-

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/10/27/undecided

[ehrnst]

14. Who is "undecided" about Trump?

Who does this article remind you of?

[mopinko]

16. all of them. the money quote-

To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. “Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?”

[ehrnst]

19. All of whom? "People?" "Democratic reps?" "the media?"

[mopinko]

21. mostly the trumpkins but

all of the above to a disturbing degree.

[ehrnst]

22. To what degree?

Who else other than a Trumpkin is "undecided" about his performance? Is that like being "undecided" concerning supporting the Democratic POTUS nominee?

How do you define "undecided?"

[mopinko]

23. to wit, alex witt. alex witless,

who is the one face on msnbc who makes me reach for the remote.
she sits there w the dumbest look on her face, and asks the dumbest set of on the one hand, on the other hand, questions. some are saying "insert the days most ridiculous bit of bullshit from hitler's mouth that day" oh ffs. oh ffs. this is the end of civilization woman. i know a 4yo who could write better questions for you, and he cant read yet.

wherever she went to j school, she should look up some bud from the law end of it, cuz she has an airtight case for malpractice and theft of her $$$$s.

[ehrnst]

24. So that's one single example in one of "all of the above."

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"People?" "Democratic reps?" "the media?"

That's the basis for your claim of it being endemic in "all of the above?"

[mopinko]

25. no, just the best example.

[ehrnst]

26. So, what are others? What Democratic reps, for example?

Which are "undecided" on Trump's performance? Can you give an example of one? You seem to believe it to be endemic. Perhaps you are confusing those who are busy dealing more with urgent local issues, and letting specific leaders (such as Schiff, Pelosi, Waters and Schumer) take the lead on the critical public commentary, but with "being undecided." Not all Democratic reps are on Twitter for hours a day, but that doesn't mean they are somehow not working or neutral on Trump. That's called "coordinated messaging" that directs public attention towards specific strong, vetted messaging by high profile leaders, instead of looking like a herd of cats on twitter.

I also certainly haven't seen the NYT, Washington Post or NPR demonstrate being "undecided" about Trump's performance, especially in OpEds. They have been reporting the facts, which are pretty damning, with no positive spin on Trump. Take a look if you haven't yet.

Perhaps you are confusing a lack of angry, bombastic vitriol displayed by legitimate journalists (I'm talking about those not on cable television) with being "undecided?"

[FoxNewsSucks]

4. True

That's what has pissed me off more than almost anything else. Being told there's nothing else to do but vote the mf'er out. Never mind the damage until then, if that's even possible.

[ehrnst]

20. Well, sure can do plenty, - just not much that will have any effect on Trump.

We can complain, we can blame others for not ;doing something" to fixing it right this very minute, we can gnash our teeth that he is still in office, but what is it that you expect to actually happen as a result?

What do you think isn't being done that could be done that would actually mitigate the damage?

We don't have the Senate, and the Senate can constitutionally block anything that Congress tries to legislate. And they will.

There is only one way to remove Trump, and that's the 25th Amendment. Pence has to do that, and he's not going to. Barr isn't going to indict Trump on anything.

What is the alternative to voting him out that will "fix the damage?" Elections have consequences, and 2016 is horrific proof. The "Trump being elected will speed the coming of the revolution" didn't really work out the way many thought it would. The body count is rising, and the 'revolution' that was promised didn't happen, either in the streets or at the polls.

If one can't articulate what it is one is expecting to be done, then complaining that "nothing" is being done doesn't make much sense, no matter how cathartic.

[hughee99]

6. How did this get alerted for "not supporting democrats"?

I'm not sure, but it did.

[HAB911]

9. a lot gets alerted

that makes me scratch my head. Used to think it was pearl clutchers, coming around now to subversives

[mopinko]

17. if it makes you feel any better, that alerter

prolly got a 24 block on alerts. likely was 0-7

[ehrnst]

8. "Ohio state representative wants to prosecute Trump for 'crimes against humanity'"

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/ohio-state-representative-wants-prosecute-trump-crimes-against-humanity-n1178501

Maybe you need to read more.

Pelosi said Trump is responsible for American deaths. Watch Biden's answer

If This Pandemic Is a War, Trump Is a War Criminal

Trump’s covid-19 inaction killed Americans. Here’s a counter that shows how many.

'Trump is killing his own supporters' – even White House insiders know it

I guess if one doesn't want to see Democrats or the legitimate free press responding strongly and doing their job, one won't. If one wants to see incompetence on their part, one will, no matter the evidence to the contrary.

As for "the people" not responding with anger, speak for yourself.

Your concern is noted.

This is the definition of Crimes Against Humanity.

So, if your opinion on the defintion is correct, then why hasn't the UN started proceedings?

[shockey80]

10. I have seen some of these examples.

You see a newspaper article once in a while. Pelosi says it on TV. That does not change this fact. There has not been a nation wide movement demanding Trump resigns. All the news organizations should be accusing Trump of Crimes Against Humanity because it's true. It's not happening on a consistent basis.

A few articles, a few speeches, is not a nation wide movement.

[ehrnst]

11. OK, goalposts moved.

This is what the OP stated:

How are the news media, Democrats in Congress, the people responding? Wow! That's bad, he's crazy. We better vote him out in November or we will be in big trouble.

I answered that all of the above are indeed doing more than simply fretting....

And what effect do you think any "nation wide movement" will have on the only one who can remove Trump - which would be Pence?

All the news organizations should be accusing Trump of Crimes Against Humanity because it's true.

Well, that's a specific charge, and generally is made by the UN, that Ohio rep notwithstanding. The legitimate free press has to abide by journalistic standards, but you can certainly find the emotionality you seek on OPEDs.

So, why is it that you think that "all the newspapers" aren't doing this daily, if indeed he is comitting crimes against humanity, as determined by international law? I remember the RW clamoring that Obama was 'violating the Constitution' on a daily basis, and could not understand why there wasn't a general outcry to charge him with this, and impeach.

Why do people believe that the free press and our reps are obligated to address and validate, on a daily basis, our personal anxieties concerning that which can't be fixed RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE?

[shockey80]

12. Whatever. Go have a drink.

[dweller]

13. 😳

✌🏼

[ehrnst]

15. My thoughts exactly on the OP you're responding to...

[lame54]

27. How do we know his stimulus letter wasn't just that