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enemies, and will sacrifice their own to do it. They see it as war, and almost never give an inch, unless they sense a short, tactical retreat will further enable and ensure a long term setting up of their foe for a more thorough slaughter.
Democrats at present, for the most part, just want their opponents (some still refuse to look at them as enemies) to submit themselves, even if just a bit, to their 'better angels' and to behave in a more humane and somewhat rational fashion.
The 'they go low, we go high' crowd still thinks that an overwhelming victory can be had with little to no overall inherent risk. They see it as a philosophical dispute at its core, and are willing to make compromise an oft-employed default stance when faced with a countervailing force. Theses are the types who appeal to the 'innate, natural goodness' of Americans, as if the US has some sort of birthright and pre-ordained outcome to produce this sort of zeitgeist, pulled from some mythical aether, ginned up almost 250 years (oh what a short, short time that is!) ago, and carried on, borne like the Ark of the Covenant across innumerable Red Seas.
To think this is the height of folly, as the humans who make up the 331 million population of the nation are just as HUMAN as any other nation state's, and are just as fallible and susceptible, given a poisoned and ill-intended set of inputs, to produce the same atrocities as any other. I need not preach this to anyone of African descent back in the century plus long post-Civil War, pre Civil Rights American milieu, let along the entirety of the centuries starting in 1619 at Jamestown.
It is time to disenthrall ourselves of many notions that lead ultimately, despite some pussy-hat marchings, some fusses kicked up, and some cleverclogs social media rants, etc., to passive acceptance and an assured defeat that will end in blood and tears.
If not, long-wave history absolutely says the first group WILL eventually win, and unless the second group adopts some of the first group's precepts, and realises that it is indeed a war, and that the other side WILL kill you, then all the worst conceivable ruinous events shall occur, be it quickly or not, as surely as night follows day.
BamaRefugee
(3,621 posts)be chopped off by Republican machetes.
Biden will be attacked more viciously and with more outright lies and defamation than ANY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EVER.
Clever memes, sternly worded letters from Democratic leaders, purity tests, gnashing of teeth and rending of garments, FORGET ABOUT IT, we have to fight tooth and nail and, I have to say it, JUST AS DIRTY AS THEY DO.
We can fix it AFTER WE WIN.
WHEN THEY GO LOW, and we go high, we actually wind up losing, against patently heinous and terrible people. We went high with Humphrey, we went high with McGovern, we went high with Mondale, Dukakis, Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton,( and I'm proud to say I voted for every one of these people), we acted as ladies and gentlemen, our heads high and our principals even higher, and we got our butts kicked. And yes, I consider elections being stolen a butt kicking!
I can only hope and pray that this time we have some folks in leadership who dare to do some bare knuckle fighting. And some POWERFUL and memorable messaging! We HAVE to message the right way to get inside the heads of the most crucial voters in this election.
So much more to say but too tired, heading for bed.
God bless us all, in this, this is a fight to really and truly save America, we cannot lose it. And we're going to be fighting a real dictator who wants a wannabe dictator to stay in power, which makes it doubly hard.
Just please, no infighting, every ounce of our energy has to be focused on winning, not internal divisions, and not looking morally superior as we cross the finish line in second place.
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Celerity
(46,154 posts)Checkered Giant
(14 posts)rampartc
(5,835 posts)i really don't think reeducation will either.
Checkered Giant
(14 posts)rampartc
(5,835 posts)ok, let me try this, it works for trump. i never said the coronavirus was a hoax, and i fid not tell anyone to inject disinfectant.
Checkered Giant
(14 posts)Based on political orientation on this site. Im new as you can see but have lurked for a bit.
Checkered Giant
(14 posts)John Ludi
(589 posts)The Left has devolved into whinging church ladies who seem to think that "meaningful dialog" can be had with rabid troglodytes who basically are waiting for the End Times to kill kill kill. Not gonna happen.
Lonestarblue
(11,193 posts)They lie and cheat to get elected, and many of the more rabid stand on the Bible denouncing liberals while they violate every teaching in that book. Yet their supporters still vote for them and then complain about how religion is declining in this country. They need to look at their own hypocrisy to see the reason.
calimary
(83,370 posts)I'm SO with this. I'm among those who've been complaining for years that we've been too nice. It's fallen on deaf ears so far.
I'm so tired of the tendency to Pollyana the republi-CONS. SICK OF IT. TIRED of seeing my side continuing to bring feather dusters to gunfights.
Bernardo de La Paz
(50,254 posts)hadEnuf
(2,476 posts)realize they are wrong and change so they can do the right thing for America. Popular opinion with the masses will not sway them. Shaming them will not sway them. Might makes right with this crowd and nothing else will resonate. Nothing. And they see us as a bunch of easy marks.
They need to know that they will be rendered unable to continue what they are doing politically, socially and physically, if necessary.
They are ready for violence and we are not. They need to know that they will pay a heavy price if they escalate their bullshit any further.
I really wish it were different, but we need to wake the hell up and send a credible message to these vermin.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,799 posts)Time to be vicious because we are fighting for our democracy itself.
Tiger8
(432 posts)(Paraphrasing) You guys lose because we go for the headshot, while you think its a pillow fight.
dalton99a
(83,127 posts)Ingersollman
(204 posts)is war. And some of us, probably more than everyone thinks, are ready to fight, and win.
JudyM
(29,474 posts)I also hope Biden comes to act on this premise.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)of your opponent or the opposition. "The Art of War"
The Republican message is political insanity, imo.
Roy Rolling
(7,101 posts)Relying on the innate laws of nature to be the wind at your back is not compromise, it is not a matter of faith. It is a reasoned, adult response to evaluating all of the information at hand.
History is strewn with the lives of the innocent, blindly following arrogant leaders who ignore reality. What would the outcome of the German offensive against Russia been had it been in Summer and not Winter?
Itll be apparent when the time for action is. Or rather, the time for action is always now, if you know what step you are in the process.
zak247
(251 posts)The GOP has always been a racist anti-poor party that solely exists to protect the wealth of the rich and powerful.
The reason we dont have national FREE health insurance is that the lily-white GOP doesnt want to see their tax money used to help racial minorities or non-white people. In that process, theyll deprive their own race just to prevent black and brown people from getting health insurance.
So in this pandemic when they found out this most affects black and brown people they were then totally against the lockdown.
Mainly though, they are being ordered by the Wall Street class to cease and desist the lockdown so their masters can go about making money to the detriment of the nations health.