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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm glad that lying woman was forced to give up her dog.
I am.
But I am even more glad Christian Cooper wasn't gunned down by the police because of the racist lie that POS woman told.
Amy Cooper used racism to intimidate Christian Cooper.
- Do as I say or I'll tell the police a black man is hurting a white woman -
She then escalated matters by calling the police. She was counting on the racism of others and the well - documented deaths of African - American men and women at the hands of the police to settle everything.
Because she felt safe and comfortable in her own racism she was counting on the protection of other white people. To her thinking, and not just her thinking, her white skin is all the explanation anyone needs.
- White woman in trouble. Come one, come all - white people to the rescue -
- Because how could a white woman be in the wrong when a black man is standing there, looking all guilty in his blackness? -
Amy Cooper knew exactly what she was doing. She knew exactly what the outcome could be because of her lie.
And without the phone footage, without the evidence to protect him, Christian Cooper could very well have been another dead black man tonight. Killed by the police. Another statistic.
The dog is safe. I'm glad.
Mr. Cooper is still alive. I'm very grateful.
This time. But what happens the next time some white person cries "Black"?
Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)picked up when she moved to the U.S..
She brought it with her. She might feel more open about it here, but she brought it with her.
White privilege exists wherever white people exist.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Correct
Nature Man
(869 posts)obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)She could have absolutely gotten this gentleman, a bird-watcher, killed for having the audacity to request she follow the law and leash her dog. On top of the racism, she is clearly an irresponsible dog owner and should not get that rescue back. That poor dog was crying due to the way she was slinging it around. IMO, she deserves whatever she gets.
live love laugh
(13,129 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)She is on administrative leave from her job, she's lost her dog, at least temporarily, and she has apologized (sort of). None of that would have happened had the clip not gone viral. I say we need to put it out there every damn time.
live love laugh
(13,129 posts)Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)I read she was put on administrative leave from her job.
She really needs to be charged for filing a false report.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... companies are hitting bad acting PD's with higher rates.
UTUSN
(70,740 posts)Not to mention the harm she does to people.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)She'll blame everyone, dog included, for her troubles.
LeftInTX
(25,555 posts)Mainly because they would shoot before he had a chance to show them his cellphone video.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)You're right. Shoot first, ask later.
sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)Tonight, she has arrived!
https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/amy-cooper-video-new-york/
sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)They have the Same Last Name????
I just realized that, and can't believe it. What are the odds?
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)the crowd to assume guilt. Trial by crowd is not a good thing.
We have spent thousands of years dealing with questions of "justice" and "evidence". Most societies believe trials by evidence are necessary before punishment for crimes is attempted. This concept is behind some of the sillier things in the law, as seen by the layman.
We're up against several things here-- the obvious one is the inherent racism in her cries. That cannot be fixed in this one case, since we've been dealing with it for hundreds of years with only partial success.
But, we shouldn't fall for, and New Yorkers rarely do. It's only a small percentage who jump on a lynch mob, but they do exist and must be shut down immediately.
Beyond that, the question is "What's the crime?" Just what was she blaming the guy for? He called her out for not leashing her dog. Kind like calling someone out for not wearing a mask. NY street ethics often beg for judgment calls-- at what point do you call someone out and not just be an annoying busybody? The rules are often made up on the spot.
And mistakes will be made-- the enormous number of ethnic and racial groups you'll be dealing with on those streets often make for some quick thinking.
New York, of course, isn't the only place like this, just one of the biggest.
OK, I'm rambling. It's after 1AM here and I'm still up. So I'll shut up.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)using it.
I see no reason to believe she didn't understand. She used it. She wasn't merely expressing her racism, she was using it.
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)"Being charged with making a false statement is covered under New York State Penal Law §210.45, which states that it can be a Class A misdemeanor. The sentence for this could be up to year in jail, a fine, and three years of probation."
https://www.markicohenattorneynyc.com/nyc-criminal-attorney/false-statement/
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Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)bluestarone
(17,030 posts)sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)Apparently the Franklin Templeton site(where she works), crashed tonight once her identity became known. This story is unraveling at breakneck speed, the incident occurred This Morning!!
She will probably lose her job, and her dog. Her name may appear at the top of internet searches for a long, long period of time. There is little that is defensible about her actions. From the phone call itself, to they lying about her situation to authorities, to the fact she was more concerned with making false claims to the police, than she was with taking care not to hurt her dog. Not to mention the fact she was breaking the law to begin with by not having Henry on a leash in the Ramble.
Whether she truly is a decent person or not, and I have no idea if she is, her lot is now cast, and she'll have to live with the consequences the rest of her life most likely. This will Always be out there.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)Maybe she can learn from it. I somehow doubt it, but she might.
CountMyVote4Reality
(209 posts)If she didn't line them up herself, she certainly kicked it off when her scofflaw arrogance was confronted by a Black man. The well-being of her cherished dog was her defense when she was told where she could freely unleash her dog, "It's not safe over there." He persisted and wisely began to document the unfolding incident with the camera of his phone. At this point she could have just put her precious dog back on his leash, but... a Black man. Boom.
So, she grabs her precious dog by the collar while she calls for the police because a Black man (threatens her). As the next domino falls she's practically choking her little dog as he frantically tries to free himself from her grip on his collar that's lifting him off of his feet. Boom.
The video goes viral and she is identified by former dog walkers that work with the agency that fostered the dog she agreed to take care of. Boom.
The agency takes the dog back. Boom.
As her identity is exposed, it includes her employer that feels pressure to suspend (if not yet, terminate) their relationship. Boom.
All because racism is not smart. It's just stupid upon stupid.
So, what happens now that racism has destroyed her life? Does she cancel her future life, eat shit and die? Does she join ranks with Racists R Us as her last resort because a Black man? Is there rehab for racism?
She is supposedly a very smart financial manager. I hope she is smart enough to take a humble look at her very stupid situation. Boom.
If there is to be an epiphany it must not end with her.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... get this !!
The people who show racism online are fired and black booked and few if any companies want them around.
I'd be scared crap less if I were an HR rep of the stupid people who think this kind of racism is OK
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)1. She is currently under administrative leave from her VP position at Franklin Templeton.
2. She "voluntarily surrendered" her dog back to the Rescue organization she had adopted him from a couple of years ago.
Full story and pics at:
https://www.newsweek.com/white-woman-who-called-cops-black-man-placed-leave-work-issues-apology-1506408
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)What she did was potentially lethal and she did it with such ease.
It was her go-to. Didn't even have to think about it. Her go-to.
Afromania
(2,771 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... in that white people KNOW the PD's are full of racist and use this against PoC.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)her.
Letting her whiteness be all the evidence she should need.
Happens over and over again and has for decades upon decades.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)(unless you are a Republican politician)
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)But death is forever.
Wawannabe
(5,678 posts)I was gonna post along the same lines. She is losing everything real fast because of this ...and tRump and co dont??? WTF?
He has done much worse but I guess didnt call the police and make a false report about something.
Wednesdays
(17,408 posts)she doesn't have a team of high-paid lawyers, the U.S. Justice Department, and two "news" networks working 24/7/365 to "explain" and cover up all of her shit.
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)that many white people don't realize. I suspect this woman does not even consider herself racist even though she used a very racist tactic to attack this innocent man. Thank goodness there was video to document exactly what happened.
As I side note I cannot stand people who dont follow dog leash rules and other dog regulations. It becoming a huge problem in many metropolitan areas where dogs are overwhelming the parks, trails and other public areas.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)as racist. Merely as someone who didn't think about what she was doing
But her first thought was to scream white woman in danger from a black man.
coeur_de_lion
(3,681 posts)I was more angry that she was racist or was mistreating her dog. Vile POS.
I want to adopt her dog.