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An interesting but unfortunate take on what's happening in our country (Original Post) PaulRevere08 May 2020 OP
That was an excellent insight... Newest Reality May 2020 #1
Very nice! lunatica May 2020 #5
+1000 alwaysinasnit May 2020 #19
I don't see anything. smirkymonkey May 2020 #2
Here ya go, SM.... KY_EnviroGuy May 2020 #6
Thank you KY_EnviroGuy! smirkymonkey May 2020 #11
Yes, it's simplified but much core truth to it. KY_EnviroGuy May 2020 #17
Damn, and I thought that Marx said: La pizza est l'opium du peuple. GoneOffShore May 2020 #20
The Mall is their mega-church and the dollar bill is their God. TeamPooka May 2020 #22
Unfortunately, in our society, both religion and consumerism are just forms of entertainment. patphil May 2020 #23
Sounds like she is a neoliberal, but like most Americans does not know what liberalism is. c-rational May 2020 #13
Trump is a transactional president luvtheGWN May 2020 #15
Exactly. NT enough May 2020 #3
How about this take? Brainfodder May 2020 #4
Interesting take. Newest Reality May 2020 #8
So, prostitutes without sex involved? Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #7
it's a take qazplm135 May 2020 #9
Excellent insight dlk May 2020 #10
Exactly. We have been moved away from civic engagement so that we no longer PaulRevere08 May 2020 #16
One of the many downsides of vulture capitalism dlk May 2020 #24
It's a unique paradox for Americans... Roc2020 May 2020 #12
I consume therfore I am.... jalan48 May 2020 #14
Even church is transactional rainin May 2020 #18
I don't know about this one.. Grins May 2020 #21
i.e. we are being trained to think of ourselves as economic units, not citizens. eppur_se_muova May 2020 #25
This is so true, and so sad. GoneOffShore May 2020 #26

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. That was an excellent insight...
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:54 PM
May 2020

Although we talk about gullibility and sheer stupidity, a vapid, superficial, confused and highly conditioned, (by the capitalist Gestalt) life seems to be what you would expect from people who have not been exposed to alternatives, deeper insights, illuminating meaning and values that transcend the catechism of the Simulation, or The Spectacle.

The carrot before the horse effect is like a trance-inducing litany that preserves ignorance and breeds a variety of hedonistic behaviors that serve the basic dopamine cycle, stimulates the limbic, (lizard brain) and detracts from anything outside of the boundaries that might serve to liberate them from banality and a covert servitude from cradle to grave.

"Wake up, Neo. The Matrix has you."

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. Very nice!
Tue May 26, 2020, 02:02 PM
May 2020

The ultimate power is the power to consume. Things! More things! It is Capitalism! More American than apple pie.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. Thank you KY_EnviroGuy!
Tue May 26, 2020, 03:23 PM
May 2020

Very interesting take on the situation. I never thought about it that way, but I think there is something to it. Maybe that is why I am not having such a hard time with this. I am not much of a shopper, and I don't really like it.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
17. Yes, it's simplified but much core truth to it.
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:00 PM
May 2020

For far too many Americans, as the old (partial) quote from Marx, "religion is the opium of the people" but today it's more like "religion and consumerism are the opiates of the people".

I'm an introvert and like you, not much bothered by the isolation but I think many have made shopping and going out to eat to be their entire social life. The evidence here is heavy traffic during the day and full parking lots at shopping centers and restaurants almost every day (before COVID-19). When I was a kid, we felt lucky to eat at a restaurant once or twice a year and only one major shopping trip to Nashville during Christmas.

It's so sad how we have lost our sense of old-fashioned small town close-knit community.........

patphil

(6,208 posts)
23. Unfortunately, in our society, both religion and consumerism are just forms of entertainment.
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:34 PM
May 2020

That's the real truth of it. People just want to be entertained.

Simple self-gratification.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
4. How about this take?
Tue May 26, 2020, 02:00 PM
May 2020

Corporations are people removing personal responsibility for actions.

Religion is a control mechanism for people.



Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
8. Interesting take.
Tue May 26, 2020, 02:43 PM
May 2020

The bind here is the virtual chain to corporations that own and control the means of production. If we consider the reality of how we are chained to them. How much do you own, or can see right now in your surround is not provided by a corporation?

That puts it in a more direct and intimate context because we can complain and criticize the bottom-line, profit-only model of said companies, but are we able to deal with the bondage of the chains they have gently wrapped around us using commercial lubrication and addictive anesthetics? Did anyone complain, scream or cry during their slow indoctrination into the brand of life in capitalist America? Yet, this was foreseen.

As for religion, it is only a control mechanism for the gullible. There are deep and mostly ignored values to it, (though using the word tends to be just a broad brush they paint with in order to justify a screed). A very broad and careful investigation to the various kinds of religions, (not just a myopic view of Western ones as if they ARE all the religion is) reveals that our treatment of the subject here is rather superficial and myopic, to say the least. The fundamentalists are literally killing religion in that sense and crucifying Christianity by way of a gestalt of pure hypocrisy as per Evangelical McChristianity which simply takes advantage of the people, who may also respond well to corporate and political manipulation which brings about a convergence of the two and is not in line at all with the teachings they profess, if one looks into the matter.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,857 posts)
7. So, prostitutes without sex involved?
Tue May 26, 2020, 02:22 PM
May 2020

With unhappy and unfulfilling lives, but which allows them to pay bills and buy stuff?

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
9. it's a take
Tue May 26, 2020, 02:48 PM
May 2020

but way too simplistic of a take in my opinion.

There's probably partial truth there, but only partial I think.

dlk

(11,576 posts)
10. Excellent insight
Tue May 26, 2020, 03:16 PM
May 2020

Too many Americans have no involvement with their larger community and derive their meaning & purpose in life largely as consumers. When their ability to shop and consume is unavailable, the ensuing fear and confusion at the loss results in the often irrational and aggressive behaviors we/seem to be seeing everywhere.

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
16. Exactly. We have been moved away from civic engagement so that we no longer
Tue May 26, 2020, 03:59 PM
May 2020

feel any connection. We want immediate and personal satisfaction and are unwilling to work on the hard, longterm items.

dlk

(11,576 posts)
24. One of the many downsides of vulture capitalism
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:40 PM
May 2020

Americans are viewed as profit centers, first and citizens of our communities second. The indoctrination into being a patriotic consumer starts very early. I remember after 911, we were encouraged to go shopping, as though that was any kind of a real solution. We need a seismic shift in our country, if we are to remain a republic. How that best happens is anyone’s guess. Those at the top, vacuuming up all of our resources, are laughing all the way to the bank.

Grins

(7,228 posts)
21. I don't know about this one..
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:28 PM
May 2020

My first thought, and looking only at the title,

”An interesting but unfortunate take on what's happening in our country“

my first thought was “another Reich-wing meme”.

I constantly get emails from those on the Reich with titles exactly like this. THEY know the problem! THEY have the answer! It is so simple!

Change this one from the transactional world to, say, the “lack of prayer in schools”, or a “permissive society”, toss in a “unlike our parents and grandparents” and maybe a “greatest generation” and it’s the same.

I’m leery of this one...

eppur_se_muova

(36,289 posts)
25. i.e. we are being trained to think of ourselves as economic units, not citizens.
Tue May 26, 2020, 07:21 PM
May 2020

I've heard it said that American doesn't have a culture, it has an economy.

Too much truth in that.

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