Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:22 AM Sep 2012

Five So-Called Liberal Pundits Who Are Attacking Teachers

Chicago's teacher strike may turn out to be the most important one in a generation, as teachers stand up to a corporate-backed education reform regime that stresses testing and firing teachers as a form of "accountability" while continuing to refuse to invest real money in making educational opportunities equal for all students.

The so-called education reform movement wants high-stakes tests that students take yearly to be used to evaluate teachers and weed out the "bad" ones, and pushes money into charter schools that are privately owned and don't have union teachers. Under the guise of "accountability" for teachers and schools, reformers put taxpayer dollars into the hands of private investors despite the charter schools' negligible results when it comes to actually improving education. The movement has been particularly pernicious because it's crept inside the heart of the Democratic party and taken hold of politicians and commentators who profess to be on the side of working people, but end up bashing teachers' unions.

As Molly Ball at the Atlantic wrote last week, Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, the chairman of the Democratic National Convention, spoke during the convention at a movie screening hosted by the face of the pro-charter-school movement, Michelle Rhee. "Another Democratic star, Newark Mayor Cory Booker, spoke at the cocktails-and-canapes reception afterward," Ball noted. "Across the country, Democratic officials from governors like Colorado's John Hickenlooper to former President Clinton -- buoyed by the well-funded encouragement of the hedge-fund bigwigs behind much of the charter-school movement -- are shifting the party's consensus away from the union-dictated terms to which it has long been loyal."

And of course, Chicago's teachers are facing down Mayor Rahm Emanuel, former White House Chief of Staff for Barack Obama.

It's not just politicians falling for the rhetoric of the union-busters when it comes to teachers. Few would dare to demonize police or firefighters' unions the same way they have teachers, who are mostly women, working for decent middle-class wages but hardly getting rich, and in Chicago often working in horrific conditions, with huge classes and in some cases no air conditioning. Yet as the teachers hit the streets and Chicagoans declared support, supposedly liberal pundits echoed far-right talking points about teacher salaries and budget cuts, implied that teachers were hurting students by standing up for their rights and for better conditions in the schools, and argued that not supporting the union was evidence of their independent thought—not their susceptibility to a well-funded message machine or their general contempt for public school teachers.

more . . . http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/11538-five-so-called-liberal-pundits-who-are-attacking-teachers

28 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Five So-Called Liberal Pundits Who Are Attacking Teachers (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 OP
"invest real money in making educational opportunities equal for all students. " dkf Sep 2012 #1
The inequity in funding is alarming. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #5
Yep. They want to privatize our public schools... hunter Sep 2012 #2
The Alex Wagner Show was an insult Mponti Sep 2012 #3
John Legend was on Bill Maher last night and I almost turned him off proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #4
Well he did go to Harvard, but yes, I was also surprised. sammytko Sep 2012 #6
Going to Harvard doesn't make you an expert on public education. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #9
I'm leaning that way myself Iris Sep 2012 #14
See, that's what gets me and infuriates me about liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #19
I would support a dismantling of police unions. nt Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #7
In Greece tama Sep 2012 #26
Emphatic DURec. bvar22 Sep 2012 #8
A+ proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #10
Hear, hear. nt woo me with science Sep 2012 #18
Beyond absolutely. 99Forever Sep 2012 #20
I believe some liberals want charter schools because Teamster Jeff Sep 2012 #11
Exactly. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #12
Nailed It! bvar22 Sep 2012 #23
Sad to say, I think you may be right. But then again, when Bush was president sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #15
Just shows Fox doesn't have a monopoly on stupid. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #13
Yeah when it was Bush's idea, the left hated it. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #16
I feel many unions drifting right proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #17
UNION "management" is drifting to the Right. bvar22 Sep 2012 #22
Exactly tama Sep 2012 #27
It goes both ways - when teachers run down blue collar workers Edweird Sep 2012 #24
You've encountered me. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #25
One of many disappointments Oilwellian Sep 2012 #21
Just how far right tama Sep 2012 #28
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
1. "invest real money in making educational opportunities equal for all students. "
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:27 AM
Sep 2012

So this is the cause of poor student performance? Really?

Exactly what are we supposed to do to fix this?

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
5. The inequity in funding is alarming.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:52 AM
Sep 2012

Here's a great book to read on that topic. It was written 20 years ago but is still valid today, even more so in some cities.

http://www.amazon.com/Savage-Inequalities-Children-Americas-Schools/dp/0060974990

hunter

(38,322 posts)
2. Yep. They want to privatize our public schools...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:31 AM
Sep 2012

... and give everyone a Wal-Mart education for a Wal-Mart job.

Mponti

(163 posts)
3. The Alex Wagner Show was an insult
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:36 AM
Sep 2012

Dont recall whether it was Wed or Thurs, but it was infuriating to hear Wagner and her guests blast Chicago teacher. It was fact free fenzy of RW talking points from a prep school/ivy league panel of know nothings. They may be Obama supporters, but they are anti union hacks.

Chicago polls show strong support for the teachers -- not Rahm and Romney, Ryan, Jeb, pritzker and other right wingers.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
4. John Legend was on Bill Maher last night and I almost turned him off
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:48 AM
Sep 2012

He was insulting teachers. I kept thinking - this guy's a MUSICIAN but yet he's supposedly an authority on the Chicago teachers strike? wtf indeed.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
9. Going to Harvard doesn't make you an expert on public education.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:04 PM
Sep 2012

Neither does being a musician.

The only thing John Legend accomplished last night was convincing me not to buy any of his music.

liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
19. See, that's what gets me and infuriates me about
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:26 PM
Sep 2012

anything involving the education profession. I can think of no other profession where the word of almost everyone else is taken seriously regarding it, where people who have nothing whatsoever to do with education spout off and are taken seriously, where everyone seems to think that it's so easy and that they can do it easily, too, when they've never set foot in a classroom or even an education class; everyone EXCEPT TEACHERS THEMSELVES are listened to. No one listens to teachers or defers to their experience and knowledge and any suggestion they make at all is chalked up to selfish self-aggrandizement, when teaching is one of the least selfish professions. No other profession is given this kind of disrespect, when so many other professions are so much less important to society and may even be damaging, and yet next to social work it's one of the lowest-paid professions. I know so many people who want to go into education but who cannot afford it, as the salaries wouldn't be nearly enough to cover both student loans and living costs.

Hell, every time I even sub I'm so exhausted at the end of the day that I'm very glad I don't have young kids to tend or other things to take care of (I'm not a teachers, but I have a B.A., which allows me to sub in the local rural school district). I grew up with teachers and saw the daily bullshit they go through firsthand and what it did to them, and there was no way I was even going to consider doing it myself.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
8. Emphatic DURec.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:04 PM
Sep 2012

Solidarity!

Just say NO! to privatization scams that were once the province of the Republican Party,
but have now infested the once proud Democratic Party of FDR/LBJ.

Things that should NEVER be "Privatized" in a democracy:

*Health Care

*Prisons

*Vote Counting machines

*Armed military "contractors" (Mercenaries)

*Intelligence gathering and collating

*Schools (Charter Schools are NOT "Public Schools)

*Police/Fire Depts (includes armed private police)

These are ALL elements of The Commons,
and include Common Responsibilities.
ALL of the above should be strictly Non-Profit,
Publicly Owned,
completely transparent,
and accountable TO the public.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
[font size=5 color=green]Solidarity99![/font][font size=2 color=green]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/center]

Teamster Jeff

(1,598 posts)
11. I believe some liberals want charter schools because
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:27 PM
Sep 2012

they would like to separate their kids from "the riff raff in public schools" without paying for private schools. Public schools would be for kids slotted for Walmart type crappy jobs. The teachers union is against this 2 tier corporate school scam. Deep down they probably dislike all unions.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. Nailed It!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:47 AM
Sep 2012

The White Flight suburbs don't believe that they should have to pay for the Inner City schools,
or that their children should have to actually share physical space with the less privileged under classes.

This is the BIG reason WHY the Ring Suburbs of most urban areas are deeply Conservative RED. Michele Bachmann represents the Northern Suburbs of Minneapolis. The district immediately next door to Bachmann actually elected a Muslim, Keith Ellison.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. Sad to say, I think you may be right. But then again, when Bush was president
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:28 PM
Sep 2012

and his SOE called the Teacher's Unions 'terrorists' the Left went wild in support of Teachers so the point where they had to apologize and I think the SOE had to step down.

NOW, the 'left' or whoever is claiming to be left, have done a complete flip flop. So I'm not sure it's because of where their kids go to school so much as it is that threat to Democracy, 'blind partisanship'.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
13. Just shows Fox doesn't have a monopoly on stupid.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:08 PM
Sep 2012

I want a little solidarity from other unions. Let the brotherhood have some talks with Clinton, Villaraigosa, and Booker.

If Democrats are going to stand for anything, this sucking up to corporate education needs to be shut down now.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
22. UNION "management" is drifting to the Right.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:32 AM
Sep 2012

It is amazing how easily one's political opinions can be influenced when
entering the privileged tax brackets,

moving UP to that Gated Community,

included on exclusive invitation lists,

granted membership in that exclusive Country Club,

given access to inside information and investment opportunities,

allowed to sit at the feet and lick the hands of those in power,

and shown Their File and the tragic stories of their predecessors who actually represented their people.


Those with the inclination to climb the political ladder of Union Management quickly forget where they came from.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
27. Exactly
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:55 AM
Sep 2012

Bureaucratic sell-outs never or seldom take stand. CTU kicked the "pros" out and chose new militant leadership of rank-and-file teachers.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
24. It goes both ways - when teachers run down blue collar workers
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:53 AM
Sep 2012

they are isolating themselves from the rest of the unions. If the teachers I've encountered here on DU are in any way representative of the position of teachers as a whole, their arrogant elitist bigotry will find them up a well known creek without a paddle. That being said, I vigorously oppose the anti-union sentiment from the current "dem" administration no matter who it is aimed at because I am a union member.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
25. You've encountered me.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:46 AM
Sep 2012

I'm a teacher. Please back up your attack on DU teachers. Show me posts where they display bigotry. Show me a post where I display bigotry. Show me where I have run down blue collar workers.

Otherwise, you should apologize.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
28. Just how far right
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:00 AM
Sep 2012

could D-party go with progressive support, as long as the R-party was worse?

Is there a line somewhere, if so, where is it? I guess that line is individual, if it exists, but any takes on a good generalization?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Five So-Called Liberal Pu...