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Van Jones on CNN:
"Its not the racist person in the KKK that we have to worry about.
Its the white, liberal Hillary Clinton supporter walking her dog in central park"
Link to tweet
Laelth
(32,017 posts)This one, little message captures the core of the dilemma that we face as a society.
I have no answer.
-Laelth
comradebillyboy
(10,151 posts)hated Hillary and boosted Bernie. He still hasn't forgiven Hillary for beating sanders in 2016. In the interim he found occasion to praise Donald Trump. I've had a low opinion of Van Jones for a long time now. He is an even worse example of shoddy both sides journalism than Chuck Toad or Andrea Mitchell.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)She has an FEC record of contributions to Democratic candidates.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Edit: She is from Ontario.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)but I don't know that the Amy Cooper in the park was the Amy Cooper who donated to democrats. I wouldn't be surprised either way.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)chased down since 2008.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)There is no proof of what you claim.
https://www.truthorfiction.com/amy-cooper-donations-barack-obama-pete-buttigieg-john-kerry/
tblue37
(65,391 posts)The Independent article some folks jumped on was misleading at best.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)are not the same person.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)name (wrong middle initial) that was turned up as a Democratic Party contributor - it was not the Central Park woman.
I tried to find the post, but could not, sorry. However, it made a compelling case.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)But I get it... it's easier to hold others to a standard we ourselves fail to meet, it's a rather convenient and dog-eared conceit to carry around in our pockets.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)many other Amy Coopers who live in NYC. I find it hard to believe she would donate generously to Dem candidates and then go off like a psycho on her friend for voting for Obama. There is a lot of misinformation floating around.
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)that the victim, Chris Cooper, shares it.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)The woman in the park is from Canada.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)There is more than one Amy Cooper. The one in the park isn't old enough to be retired and she has a different initial than another Amy Cooper.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)makes the KKK okay? No worries about them?
Racism is everywhere, but let's not start giving out passes to the usual players.
walkingman
(7,620 posts)dalton99a
(81,513 posts)mucifer
(23,547 posts)JI7
(89,250 posts)I see it more as a way to attack Democrats and help Trump .
mucifer
(23,547 posts)he is engaging the discussion.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The one does not deny the other.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)It's the white supremacist cops who are doing the killings. Not the Karens. They're awful, too but if Van thinks they're a bigger problem than racist cops, he's out to lunch.
And to be clear: there are plenty of racist assholes who never voted Hillary and have been caught on camera harassing black people.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)That Van Jones statement is full of crap
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)I'll go ahead and worry about both, so no he doesn't have a point.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)He could as honestly say that the overwhelming majority of black Democratic Hillary voters are the problem, not the KKK.
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)It was a misplaced comment. I think what he meant to say is that regardless of political views, we as a society have been conditioned to fear black men. I get what he was saying, it just wasn't said very well.
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LAS14
(13,783 posts).... that she's an idiotic fringe person. She holds respected positions and helps make policy. She doesn't even know she's racist.
sop
(10,190 posts)The KKK, on the other hand, has quite a history for that sort of thing. Focus, Van, focus!
Celerity
(43,398 posts)BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)Celerity
(43,398 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)Black Flag types are leading the looting to great effect.
UTUSN
(70,700 posts)I was lambasted once by an acolyte of his on the grounds of his being such a saint.
Plus, back when I knew even less about him, when the wingnuts ran him out of the OBAMA administration, I knee-jerked about defending him as a victim of the wingnuts.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Submariner
(12,504 posts)I thought he disappeared after he rejoiced that tele-promopter Trump was truly presidential, or some horseshit like that.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)van jones- way to go - keep trying to divide the left and see if that gets you positive change.
idiot.
Cha
(297,272 posts)"this is when trump became president".. paraphrasing. After some speech BLOTUS read from a teleprompter.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)he's not helpful to the left at all.
self serving
Cha
(297,272 posts)Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Not worthy of much comment, he's a pot stirrer, pretty obvious?
He's a talking head, they do this?
Cha
(297,272 posts)he's talking about?
So you want to take on 66 Million of us with LIES? Have at it, Asshole.
Hekate
(90,705 posts)So thanks for saying this for me.
smdh
Cha
(297,272 posts)As if we don't have enough to deal with.. we get accused by Damn Van Jones of being racist like Amy Cooper.
You're Welcome, Hekate, Mahalo to you💔
Sogo
(4,986 posts)I'm a white liberal HC supporter, and I was appalled at what that woman in Central Park did to the black man, as well as the way she mis-handled her dog. I'm seriously glad that she's gotten all the blow-back that she has!
Further, as a white liberal HC supporter, I would have never behaved like she did.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)pwb
(11,275 posts)Stirring things up?
skypilot
(8,854 posts)And a lot of other things, including some very recent events.
GoCubsGo
(32,084 posts)This white, liberal Hillary Clinton supporter would like him go fuck himself.
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)Invoking HRC name will of course amplify the issue, but it's still valid.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)He has deep seeded hatred for Hillary supporters. In Oregon, a Bernie supporter stabbed 2 people to death who were defending Muslim girls from his harassment. No one would say all Bernie supporters are like him. Van Jones said that about Hillary supporters today with his comment about Central Park Karen.
radius777
(3,635 posts)who frequently draws false equivalencies between Dems and Repubs, is sympathetic to Trumpers, etc.
He's basically a black male version of Susan Sarandon.
There is a valid point to be made, to echo MLK's larger point on this topic, that the typical everyday white person (who passively supports a racist system) is as much a danger as the KKK - but Van Jones wasn't really making that point but instead trying to demonize the Hillary/Obama wing to the benefit of the alt-left wing of the party.
zak247
(251 posts)He is trying to say racism is not only from the Klan. Big deal
we already knew that
Also, he assuming the political beliefs of this woman. Maybe she is an of a Klan mentality. She might be a Trump supporter for all he knows.
People assume this lady is some kind of liberal because she is in NY.
Hes using Hillary as a symbol. Its a thoughtless remark
He is using this tragedy to score political points with the faction on the left that supports Joe Rogan.
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)betsuni
(25,533 posts)That's so 2016 to call Democrats "Hillary supporters" as an insult.
Blecht
(3,803 posts)I guess he thought he needed to find his way back into the limelight, so he said something stupid again.
He needs to just go away.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)The same guy supports trump.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Thanks.
BadGimp
(4,015 posts)Total fucking Troll post imo
It's my opinion that everyone needs to watch the entire video - he makes many clear and intensely powerful points:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/05/29/van-jones-george-floyd-white-liberal-hillary-clinton-supporter-sot-newday.cnn
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Why didnt he put the blame on the white men who supported Barack Obama?
Faux News loves him for his bad mouthing of Democrats.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)all of the times Van Jones talked about Trump and Kushner like a crushing schoolgirl.
I don't pay much attention to him anymore.