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Van Jones blames Hillary supporters. (Original Post) BlueLucy May 2020 OP
Spooky. Laelth May 2020 #1
It has been clear for more than four years that Van Jones comradebillyboy May 2020 #74
Wasn't the woman in the park Canadian? nt DURHAM D May 2020 #2
No. brooklynite May 2020 #18
Contributions do not mean she is not a foreign national. nt DURHAM D May 2020 #22
you do have to be a US citizen to donate to a federal campaign Orangepeel May 2020 #25
I don't think small online contributors have actually being DURHAM D May 2020 #29
If that's the case, what's your point? That she MIGHT have been a Democrat, based on no evidence? n/ pnwmom May 2020 #41
Weren't those contributions from someone with a different middle initial? MrsCoffee May 2020 #26
That was Amy L. Cooper. The Central Park woman is a Canadian named Any M. Cooper. nt tblue37 May 2020 #27
Yep. MrsCoffee May 2020 #28
And apparently Amy L. Cooper is listed as "retired", so they clearly smirkymonkey May 2020 #56
I'm pretty sure this has been debunked. I saw a DU post yesterday that explained it was the wrong scarletwoman May 2020 #36
Ironic that you've often lectured others for misidentifying strangers. LanternWaste May 2020 #48
There were some accounts saying she was Canadian and the donations were from other Amy Coopers karynnj May 2020 #52
She is Canadian and I thought those contributions were from one of the smirkymonkey May 2020 #55
Yes obamanut2012 May 2020 #21
Thanks. nt DURHAM D May 2020 #24
Different Amy Cooper with a different initial. It's such a common surname pnwmom May 2020 #32
Not sure what you are saying. DURHAM D May 2020 #33
The woman who's reported to give to Democrats is not the Canadian. pnwmom May 2020 #40
So the nasty Central Park woman JenniferJuniper May 2020 #3
Wrong - it's the white, conservative, holier-than-thou, Trump supporter we have to worry about. walkingman May 2020 #4
Once in while Van Jones crawls out of Trump's ass and gives us a bothsiderism dalton99a May 2020 #5
There are white liberals like that. There is some truth to his statement mucifer May 2020 #6
If anyone else said it I would get what they were saying. But in his case JI7 May 2020 #8
I think this should not be swept under the carpet and it could ultimately be good that mucifer May 2020 #10
Or merely engaging in sanctimony. LanternWaste May 2020 #49
Bullshit. Drunken Irishman May 2020 #12
This! rusty fender May 2020 #38
As a black man qazplm135 May 2020 #13
Com'on. Not a fraction enough to negate his massive racist lie. Hortensis May 2020 #69
He made some important points, but that comment was unfortunate. madaboutharry May 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver May 2020 #37
I think he was insightful. The woman he speaks about doesn't scream out... LAS14 May 2020 #9
I was more worried about that woman lynching her Cocker Spaniel than anything else. sop May 2020 #11
link to the video or a transcript please TIA Celerity May 2020 #14
Here is a clip BlueLucy May 2020 #17
thanks for posting! Celerity May 2020 #19
he speaks pure bullshit beachbumbob May 2020 #15
No, it's the undercover cop provocateurs we need worry about. Kid Berwyn May 2020 #16
No, it's the Van JONES within each of our different home groups we need to worry about. UTUSN May 2020 #20
This. Thank you for this. nt Baltimike May 2020 #68
I can easily turn it on the Sanders Bros with sexism. LizBeth May 2020 #23
Wow, this guy is still on cable TV? Submariner May 2020 #30
i remember why i can't stand van jones. He also said good things about trump samsingh May 2020 #31
Van Jones is the one who stupidly claimed.. Cha May 2020 #43
i remember that stupid comment samsingh May 2020 #75
Van Jones is Not helpful to Reality. Cha May 2020 #76
Sorry but he's not being helpful! Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #34
Van is a quite a dope BannonsLiver May 2020 #35
Any one calling out Van Jones for his BS lately? Brainfodder May 2020 #39
FO Van Jones.. You Stupid FUCK. Does he even know WTF Cha May 2020 #42
Hi Cha. I'm still trying to pick my jaw off the floor... Hekate May 2020 #45
The Stupid BURNS RED HOT with that one.. Cha May 2020 #47
Stupid comment, Van Jones.... Sogo May 2020 #44
FFS... ehrnst May 2020 #46
Van Jones is useless! He is part of the problem. mfcorey1 May 2020 #50
Second new guy posting this. pwb May 2020 #51
He has already forgotten Ahmaud Arbery, apparently. skypilot May 2020 #53
Is this the same Van Jones who toadies up to Trump on a regular basis? GoCubsGo May 2020 #54
He's echoing the MLK's Letter from Birmingham about moderates. aikoaiko May 2020 #57
Racism exist in all factions of the left and right BlueLucy May 2020 #58
Van Jones is a Dem hating alt-left clown radius777 May 2020 #59
It's a thoughtless remark zak247 May 2020 #60
Nope. BlueLucy May 2020 #61
Making statements like this is what Van Jones does for a living. Steelrolled May 2020 #62
Trying to make "Hillary supporter" mean wealthy-donor-class-out-of-touch-elite-centrist-moderate. betsuni May 2020 #63
Idiot Blecht May 2020 #64
I agree rockfordfile May 2020 #65
Idiot rockfordfile May 2020 #66
Oh, now the busted windows at CNN, Atlanta makes some sense. herding cats May 2020 #67
(previous title deleted) I'm too angry to take the time to craft a proper response BadGimp May 2020 #70
Van Jones is a fucking idiot n/m RhodeIslandOne May 2020 #71
He's a double sexist. SharonClark May 2020 #72
I haven't forgotten BGBD May 2020 #73

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. Spooky.
Fri May 29, 2020, 09:47 AM
May 2020

This one, little message captures the core of the dilemma that we face as a society.

I have no answer.



-Laelth

comradebillyboy

(10,151 posts)
74. It has been clear for more than four years that Van Jones
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:49 PM
May 2020

hated Hillary and boosted Bernie. He still hasn't forgiven Hillary for beating sanders in 2016. In the interim he found occasion to praise Donald Trump. I've had a low opinion of Van Jones for a long time now. He is an even worse example of shoddy both sides journalism than Chuck Toad or Andrea Mitchell.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
25. you do have to be a US citizen to donate to a federal campaign
Fri May 29, 2020, 10:37 AM
May 2020

but I don't know that the Amy Cooper in the park was the Amy Cooper who donated to democrats. I wouldn't be surprised either way.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
41. If that's the case, what's your point? That she MIGHT have been a Democrat, based on no evidence? n/
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:33 PM
May 2020

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
36. I'm pretty sure this has been debunked. I saw a DU post yesterday that explained it was the wrong
Fri May 29, 2020, 12:41 PM
May 2020

name (wrong middle initial) that was turned up as a Democratic Party contributor - it was not the Central Park woman.

I tried to find the post, but could not, sorry. However, it made a compelling case.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. Ironic that you've often lectured others for misidentifying strangers.
Fri May 29, 2020, 05:00 PM
May 2020

But I get it... it's easier to hold others to a standard we ourselves fail to meet, it's a rather convenient and dog-eared conceit to carry around in our pockets.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
55. She is Canadian and I thought those contributions were from one of the
Fri May 29, 2020, 05:52 PM
May 2020

many other Amy Coopers who live in NYC. I find it hard to believe she would donate generously to Dem candidates and then go off like a psycho on her friend for voting for Obama. There is a lot of misinformation floating around.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
32. Different Amy Cooper with a different initial. It's such a common surname
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:48 AM
May 2020

that the victim, Chris Cooper, shares it.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
40. The woman who's reported to give to Democrats is not the Canadian.
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:32 PM
May 2020

There is more than one Amy Cooper. The one in the park isn't old enough to be retired and she has a different initial than another Amy Cooper.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
3. So the nasty Central Park woman
Fri May 29, 2020, 09:49 AM
May 2020

makes the KKK okay? No worries about them?

Racism is everywhere, but let's not start giving out passes to the usual players.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
8. If anyone else said it I would get what they were saying. But in his case
Fri May 29, 2020, 09:52 AM
May 2020

I see it more as a way to attack Democrats and help Trump .

mucifer

(23,547 posts)
10. I think this should not be swept under the carpet and it could ultimately be good that
Fri May 29, 2020, 09:57 AM
May 2020

he is engaging the discussion.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
12. Bullshit.
Fri May 29, 2020, 10:02 AM
May 2020

It's the white supremacist cops who are doing the killings. Not the Karens. They're awful, too but if Van thinks they're a bigger problem than racist cops, he's out to lunch.

And to be clear: there are plenty of racist assholes who never voted Hillary and have been caught on camera harassing black people.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
69. Com'on. Not a fraction enough to negate his massive racist lie.
Fri May 29, 2020, 09:15 PM
May 2020

He could as honestly say that the overwhelming majority of black Democratic Hillary voters are the problem, not the KKK.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
7. He made some important points, but that comment was unfortunate.
Fri May 29, 2020, 09:51 AM
May 2020

It was a misplaced comment. I think what he meant to say is that regardless of political views, we as a society have been conditioned to fear black men. I get what he was saying, it just wasn't said very well.

Response to madaboutharry (Reply #7)

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
9. I think he was insightful. The woman he speaks about doesn't scream out...
Fri May 29, 2020, 09:55 AM
May 2020

.... that she's an idiotic fringe person. She holds respected positions and helps make policy. She doesn't even know she's racist.

sop

(10,190 posts)
11. I was more worried about that woman lynching her Cocker Spaniel than anything else.
Fri May 29, 2020, 09:59 AM
May 2020

The KKK, on the other hand, has quite a history for that sort of thing. Focus, Van, focus!

Kid Berwyn

(14,907 posts)
16. No, it's the undercover cop provocateurs we need worry about.
Fri May 29, 2020, 10:11 AM
May 2020

Black Flag types are leading the looting to great effect.

UTUSN

(70,700 posts)
20. No, it's the Van JONES within each of our different home groups we need to worry about.
Fri May 29, 2020, 10:30 AM
May 2020

I was lambasted once by an acolyte of his on the grounds of his being such a saint.

Plus, back when I knew even less about him, when the wingnuts ran him out of the OBAMA administration, I knee-jerked about defending him as a victim of the wingnuts.






Submariner

(12,504 posts)
30. Wow, this guy is still on cable TV?
Fri May 29, 2020, 10:58 AM
May 2020

I thought he disappeared after he rejoiced that tele-promopter Trump was truly presidential, or some horseshit like that.

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
31. i remember why i can't stand van jones. He also said good things about trump
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:25 AM
May 2020

van jones- way to go - keep trying to divide the left and see if that gets you positive change.

idiot.

Cha

(297,272 posts)
43. Van Jones is the one who stupidly claimed..
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:40 PM
May 2020

"this is when trump became president".. paraphrasing. After some speech BLOTUS read from a teleprompter.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
39. Any one calling out Van Jones for his BS lately?
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:23 PM
May 2020

Not worthy of much comment, he's a pot stirrer, pretty obvious?

He's a talking head, they do this?







Cha

(297,272 posts)
42. FO Van Jones.. You Stupid FUCK. Does he even know WTF
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:37 PM
May 2020

he's talking about?

So you want to take on 66 Million of us with LIES? Have at it, Asshole.

Hekate

(90,705 posts)
45. Hi Cha. I'm still trying to pick my jaw off the floor...
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:45 PM
May 2020

So thanks for saying this for me.

smdh

Cha

(297,272 posts)
47. The Stupid BURNS RED HOT with that one..
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:58 PM
May 2020

As if we don't have enough to deal with.. we get accused by Damn Van Jones of being racist like Amy Cooper.

You're Welcome, Hekate, Mahalo to you💔

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
44. Stupid comment, Van Jones....
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:42 PM
May 2020

I'm a white liberal HC supporter, and I was appalled at what that woman in Central Park did to the black man, as well as the way she mis-handled her dog. I'm seriously glad that she's gotten all the blow-back that she has!

Further, as a white liberal HC supporter, I would have never behaved like she did.

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
53. He has already forgotten Ahmaud Arbery, apparently.
Fri May 29, 2020, 05:42 PM
May 2020

And a lot of other things, including some very recent events.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
54. Is this the same Van Jones who toadies up to Trump on a regular basis?
Fri May 29, 2020, 05:48 PM
May 2020

This white, liberal Hillary Clinton supporter would like him go fuck himself.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
57. He's echoing the MLK's Letter from Birmingham about moderates.
Fri May 29, 2020, 06:12 PM
May 2020

Invoking HRC name will of course amplify the issue, but it's still valid.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
58. Racism exist in all factions of the left and right
Fri May 29, 2020, 06:46 PM
May 2020

He has deep seeded hatred for Hillary supporters. In Oregon, a Bernie supporter stabbed 2 people to death who were defending Muslim girls from his harassment. No one would say all Bernie supporters are like him. Van Jones said that about Hillary supporters today with his comment about Central Park Karen.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
59. Van Jones is a Dem hating alt-left clown
Fri May 29, 2020, 06:49 PM
May 2020

who frequently draws false equivalencies between Dems and Repubs, is sympathetic to Trumpers, etc.

He's basically a black male version of Susan Sarandon.

There is a valid point to be made, to echo MLK's larger point on this topic, that the typical everyday white person (who passively supports a racist system) is as much a danger as the KKK - but Van Jones wasn't really making that point but instead trying to demonize the Hillary/Obama wing to the benefit of the alt-left wing of the party.

 

zak247

(251 posts)
60. It's a thoughtless remark
Fri May 29, 2020, 06:52 PM
May 2020

He is trying to say racism is not only from the Klan. Big deal…we already knew that

Also, he assuming the political beliefs of this woman. Maybe she is an of a Klan mentality. She might be a Trump supporter for all he knows.

People assume this lady is some kind of liberal because she is in NY.

He’s using Hillary as a symbol. It’s a thoughtless remark

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
61. Nope.
Fri May 29, 2020, 06:58 PM
May 2020

He is using this tragedy to score political points with the faction on the left that supports Joe Rogan.

betsuni

(25,533 posts)
63. Trying to make "Hillary supporter" mean wealthy-donor-class-out-of-touch-elite-centrist-moderate.
Fri May 29, 2020, 07:42 PM
May 2020

That's so 2016 to call Democrats "Hillary supporters" as an insult.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
64. Idiot
Fri May 29, 2020, 08:03 PM
May 2020

I guess he thought he needed to find his way back into the limelight, so he said something stupid again.

He needs to just go away.

BadGimp

(4,015 posts)
70. (previous title deleted) I'm too angry to take the time to craft a proper response
Fri May 29, 2020, 09:43 PM
May 2020

Total fucking Troll post imo

It's my opinion that everyone needs to watch the entire video - he makes many clear and intensely powerful points:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/05/29/van-jones-george-floyd-white-liberal-hillary-clinton-supporter-sot-newday.cnn

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
72. He's a double sexist.
Fri May 29, 2020, 10:44 PM
May 2020

Why didn’t he put the blame on the white men who supported Barack Obama?

Faux News loves him for his bad mouthing of Democrats.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
73. I haven't forgotten
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:08 PM
May 2020

all of the times Van Jones talked about Trump and Kushner like a crushing schoolgirl.

I don't pay much attention to him anymore.

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