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When someone is handcuffed lying face down, you don't have to kneel on their neck. (Original Post) shockey80 May 2020 OP
THIS. roamer65 May 2020 #1
Thank you. Jamastiene May 2020 #2
The cop knew he was using essive force. He should be tried for murder. In_The_Wind May 2020 #3
and sickeningly, it really looked like pnwest May 2020 #6
Absolutely Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #4
They knew each other, there is likely more to this? Brainfodder May 2020 #5
If he accidenyly stumbled upon a counterfeiting ring, you do. LiberalArkie May 2020 #7
I don't understand what you mean. n/t Captain Stern May 2020 #10
He gave a counterfiet $20 bill to the store clerk. The store clerk called the police. LiberalArkie May 2020 #11
I am still not getting it. Captain Stern May 2020 #13
The store owner called the police to report that a man presented a fake $20 bill and he was waiting LiberalArkie May 2020 #19
So, perhaps the officer and Floyd were working together at some point? Captain Stern May 2020 #20
They worked security at the same club. They knew each other LiberalArkie May 2020 #21
You've convinced me. (no, not really) Captain Stern May 2020 #26
I did not say both involved in LiberalArkie May 2020 #29
What about this LiberalArkie May 2020 #30
Ok. The owner of the club said she doesn't know if they knew each other. Captain Stern May 2020 #32
I think there is a bit too much speculation going on to reach these kind of conclusions Hav May 2020 #22
Are you suggesting the cop was in the counterfeiting ring and killed Floyd to cover it up? fishwax May 2020 #14
They knew each other, they worked at the same club. Why would the lead cop kill someone he LiberalArkie May 2020 #17
The position of the officer's foot indicates The Wizard May 2020 #8
But what if you wanted a public lynching? n/t malaise May 2020 #9
LOOK AT THE PHOTO! Grins May 2020 #12
Murder in the second? coti May 2020 #27
it looked like his hand was in his pocket RussBLib May 2020 #28
Some cops also bend limbs in impossible directions and when people wince and writhe in pain chowder66 May 2020 #31
did they try a taser? RussBLib May 2020 #15
Reportedly Chauvin was the DeminPennswoods May 2020 #18
He was already on the ground, Hav May 2020 #25
You don't have to kneel on their neck ever. Full stop. SoonerPride May 2020 #16
Came here to say this gollygee May 2020 #23
This cop was a hater many times over. pwb May 2020 #24

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
2. Thank you.
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:28 PM
May 2020

That is what has been missed in all of this. Floyd was cuffed and laying face down on the pavement. There was zero reason for that murderer to ignore all of the people who were TELLING him he was MURDERING the man.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
5. They knew each other, there is likely more to this?
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:32 PM
May 2020

I can think of a motive or two or three.

Too many movies and crime scene shows, perhaps, Dexter fan? Definitely.



LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
11. He gave a counterfiet $20 bill to the store clerk. The store clerk called the police.
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:08 PM
May 2020

He waited outside on the hood of his car. The police came by. The officer and Floyd knew each other from working at the club. Clubs are very good places to pass fake money. There is more to the story than 3 cops killing someone that the lead cop knew.

Counterfieting money could be the thing.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
13. I am still not getting it.
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:23 PM
May 2020

The police didn't just 'come by'. They were called.

I've haven't seen a single piece of evidence that makes me think that the officer and victim knew each other.

I have no idea whether or not clubs are very good places to pass money. I'll defer to you on that.

Maybe there is more to the story...please share.

LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
19. The store owner called the police to report that a man presented a fake $20 bill and he was waiting
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:54 PM
May 2020

to be arrested on the hood of his car.

The club owner said that they both worked security at the club on alternate nights.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
26. You've convinced me. (no, not really)
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:48 PM
May 2020

The notion that the officer murdered Floyd because Floyd was exposing a counterfeiting ring that they were both involved in is preposterous.

LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
30. What about this
Fri May 29, 2020, 06:19 PM
May 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/charged-minn-cop-overkill-tactics-nightclub-guard-70961462


Charged Minn. cop used 'overkill' tactics as nightclub guard
A white Minneapolis police officer and the black suspect he's charged with killing both worked as security guards at the same Latin nightclub but its former owner says she’s not sure they knew each other


https://www.fox9.com/news/crying-all-day-couple-who-employed-george-floyd-mourns-his-death

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
32. Ok. The owner of the club said she doesn't know if they knew each other.
Sat May 30, 2020, 05:26 AM
May 2020

That's just like you and me.

We don't know if they knew each other either.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
22. I think there is a bit too much speculation going on to reach these kind of conclusions
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:35 PM
May 2020

The account from the store is they don't know why Floyd was still there, Floyd might not even have known about the fake bill or he was waiting there to make things right. The store owner said that many who present fake bills don't even know about it and the police only wants to know where the person got it from.

Regarding working at the same place, that could be just a coincidence. The owner of that place couldn't even say how well they knew each other as Chauvin worked there off-duty and outside while Floyd worked inside.

LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
17. They knew each other, they worked at the same club. Why would the lead cop kill someone he
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:51 PM
May 2020

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worked with. Why didn't Floyd just give the store owner a good 20 and tear up the bad one. All the store owner is interested in is not getting stuck with phony money. I think until Floyd was killed

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
8. The position of the officer's foot indicates
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:15 PM
May 2020

a deliberate attempt to injure. His foot is positioned to exert pressure on his victims neck. If he was just restraining the suspect his foot would not be bent so as to exert maximum pressure. It seems like trivia, but the devil is in the details.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
12. LOOK AT THE PHOTO!
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:17 PM
May 2020

What startled me the most: Chauvin has his knee on George Floyd’s neck - and has his hand in his pocket!

If Floyd was resisting, why would a cop do that?
He wouldn’t. And that’s why it is murder in the second.

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
28. it looked like his hand was in his pocket
Fri May 29, 2020, 05:17 PM
May 2020

but it's a dark glove in front of dark pants. Maybe it's just resting on his leg. No matter, really.

What bugs me is the cops telling Floyd, "Get up! Get in the car!" when Floyd is handcuffed on the ground, with the frikkin' knee in his neck. That is some fucked up shit.

chowder66

(9,070 posts)
31. Some cops also bend limbs in impossible directions and when people wince and writhe in pain
Fri May 29, 2020, 06:41 PM
May 2020

the scream Stop Resisting!

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
15. did they try a taser?
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:45 PM
May 2020

Floyd was a big man, but a couple of tasers could have probably calmed things down.

Wonder if we will see the body cams and hear the recordings of the other cops who did not seem to intervene. I don't understand how those three could just stand there, or kneel there, and not try to intervene even a little.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
18. Reportedly Chauvin was the
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:53 PM
May 2020

senior officer on the scene. Maybe the other officers didn't believe they could countermand a ranking officer.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
25. He was already on the ground,
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:42 PM
May 2020

has apparently a heart condition and said he didn't feel well before being put on the ground with his arms handcuffed behind the back.
I don't think there is any need for a discussion whether a taser was needed.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
16. You don't have to kneel on their neck ever. Full stop.
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:47 PM
May 2020

That is not appropriate under any circumstances.

Ever.

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