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(Reuters) - The vetting process is underway to help presumptive Democratic U.S. presidential nominee Joe Biden pick his running mate for the Nov. 3 election.
Biden has vowed to choose a woman as his potential vice president. Here are some of the nearly dozen candidates who are likely under consideration, according to people familiar with the process expected to wrap up by July.
Senator Kamala Harris
A number of advisers have pressed Biden's campaign to pick Harris, 55, because the daughter of Jamaican and Indian immigrants could help excite black voters, a key Democratic constituency. Harris endorsed Biden after dropping out of the race, but her earlier criticism of him during a Democratic primary debate about his opposition to school busing rankled some people close to Biden.
Senator Amy Klobuchar
The 60-year-old senator from Minnesota could help Biden appeal to moderate and working-class white voters in potential Midwestern battlegrounds like her home state. But Klobuchar struggled to capture black voter support during her own presidential bid and faced criticism over her prior handling of a murder case involving a black teenage defendant when she was a Minnesota county prosecutor.
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer
Whitmer, 48, raised her profile as the governor of a state hit hard by the coronavirus. But she has also come under fire for a stay-at-home order that some in the key battleground state of Michigan viewed as too onerous.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/factbox-biden-wants-woman-running-023552263.html
Zoonart
(11,866 posts)African American woman... Cop. Brings Florida. Make Police reform a central theme.
Just sayin".
samsingh
(17,598 posts)in the electoral college.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Gillum could not win in Florida. Which, sadly, turns out to have been a good thing.
Zoonart
(11,866 posts)where she serves as the United States Representative from Florida's 10th congressional district, serving since 2017. She served as Chief of the Orlando Police Department, the first woman to hold the position.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)She would be a good choice.
brooklynite
(94,574 posts)Popular in her Congressional District doesnt translate to popular in Florida.
Zoonart
(11,866 posts)Some connected with Democratic organizing in Florida have told me she is popular there. That's all I know.
I live in NYS.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Celerity
(43,383 posts)Police for a department (Orlando) with a lot of issues similar to the Minneapolis PD. If people are banging (very unfairly I think) Harris (think that bullshit 'Kamala is a cop' meme, the one that the radical left was hard pushing) for her DA and AG past, well Demings actually was a cop, and the chief one in Orlando.
I am 100%, no 1000%, fine with Demings as the VP, but this will get attention, rightly or wrongly so.
I think the VP frontrunners IMHO are Harris (my 1st choice), then in no order really, Abrams, Rice (my 2nd choice, but the question is will Biden decide to run the bullshit Benghazi RWNJ CT gauntlet), Lujan Grisham, and maybe Duckworth. Warren as a dark horse (there are multiple ways we do not lose her seat in the Senate, but she and Biden are not close, so its a real stretch, although she polls well with A-A's and women, and unites the Party, other than the BoB'ers, who are not real Dems anyway)
cray az hell, it will never happen dream pick... Michelle Obama (no way can I see her saying yes)
Orlando Police Complaints in the Spotlight as African-American Ex-Chief Runs for Congress
Val Demings has unique appeal as an African-American former police chief running for Congress. But the department she ran has a history of excessive-force complaints now coming under scrutiny.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/orlando-police-complaints-in-the-spotlight-as-african-american-ex-chief-runs-for-congress/443526/
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First, though, she will have to navigate the complicated national dialogue on police brutality and criminal justice, a conversation that has changed dramatically since Democrats first tapped the tough-on-crime Demings as a candidate for higher office. When Demings first ran for Congress in 2012, discussion of her tenure leading the OPD tended to start and stop at one statistic: a 43.6 percent drop in violent crime from 2007 to 2011, according to FBI reports. But over the last year, a string of highly publicized shootings and violent arrests of African Americans by police has changed the criteria that voters and the media use to judge officeholders on law enforcement.
The growing focus on police misconduct highlights less agreeable aspects of Demingss time helming the Orlando Police Department from 2007 to 2011. The department has a long record of excessive-force allegations, and a lack of transparency on the subject, dating back at least as far as Demingss time as chief. From 2010 to 2014, the department paid out more than $3.3 million in damages following at least 47 lawsuits alleging false arrest, excessive force, and other complaints against the departments officers, according to WFTV. (Records about these cases and other allegations of police misconduct in Orlando are not centrally housed or publicized, and some lawsuits are still outstanding.)
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Back in 2008, an Orlando Weekly expose described the Orlando Police Department as a place where rogue cops operate with impunity, and theres nothing anybody who finds himself at the wrong end of their short fuse can do about it. Demings responded defensively: Looking for a negative story in a police department is like looking for a prayer at church, she wrote in an Orlando Sentinel op-ed. It won't take long to find one.
In the same op-ed, Demings cast doubt on video evidence that conflicted with officers statements in excessive force cases, writing, a few seconds (even of video) rarely capture the entire set of circumstances. The excessive-force complaints continued throughout Demingss tenure. In 2010, an officer flipped an 84-year-old man upside down and broke his neck after the man became belligerent. Demings initially said the officer performed the technique within department guidelines, but a federal jury later disagreed, awarding the victim $880,000 in damages.
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Zoonart
(11,866 posts)Thanks for posting this info.
And yes...Michelle is my "dream date" too. Oh well.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)or even 100% since youve spent a lot of time and energy to dig up dirt on Demings.
Celerity
(43,383 posts)If Biden thinks she is best, then I am 1000% oki with it. I just think she has some obvious weak points in terms of maximising votes from certain parts of our party.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Celerity
(43,383 posts)cheers
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)gathering negative info on Demings.
Celerity
(43,383 posts)I am all about winning the 2020 election, and vetting and SWOT analysis are a bog standard part of that.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)you would know that winning Florida will be key and that Demings is better to help winning Florida than Harris.
brooklynite
(94,574 posts)If its not relevant it doesnt matter if its reported here. If it is relevant, its worth reporting.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)But there is also negative information on every candidate. But some want ignore the negative info on their preferred candidate while highlighting the negative info on others.
mainer
(12,022 posts)But Kamala Harris is a known name.
Shell be a known name if Biden picks her. And she doesnt need to be known nationally just in key swing states like Florida.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)time as AG...fair or not. And she brings us no states and doesn't help with swing states. It should be Val Demmings or Tammy Duckworth.
Wanderlust988
(509 posts)That's what needs to be vetted. I have no clue how her tenure was as police chief, but Biden needs to scrutinize everything cause the last thing we need is stuff being brought up about a killing by a cop that went unpunished during her time as chief.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)After the events of the last week it cant be a white woman and Harris past as a prosecutor disqualifies her.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Mean about the sexual harrassment stuff?
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/04/kamala-harris-black-voters-2020-075651
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)That meant, what she did wrong.
I shy away from strongly supporting anyone who allowed Kavenaugh or fuBarr in without a major coup attempt.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)If you want to know more about her record as prosecutor, check out this link (copy into browser) --> https://medium.com/@blackwomenviews/50-criminal-justice-reforms-accomplishments-by-kamala-harris-cf314eeaad2e
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)What I was referring to.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Young, Female, Minority, Veteran, Disabled, MidWest. I truly admire this woman on all levels. Just about all categories Trump hates.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Is she somehow considered natural-born citizen, like John McCain, due to her parent(s) being citizens at the time of her birth? I think Duckworth's father is American and her mother Thai.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,341 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)necessitates a great manager, get-the-job done type. Like people admire Cuomo for organized and action-oriented style.
I just think we should be setting criteria then finding best person who fits the most needs.
Whether they are male or female. Too much to risk by not doing that.
Budi
(15,325 posts)I don't blame her for staying far from DC politics, but she's the jewel in Joe's stash of brilliant gems he has to choose from.
(sigh)
Former Vice President Joe Biden says it's not likely to happen, but the "Committee to Draft Michelle Obama for VP" is working to build "substantial grassroots support for a potential Michelle Obama candidacy and help garner media attention for a vice-presidential nominee who has the power to beat Donald Trump," according to the group's press release.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/committee-seeks-draft-michelle-obama-vp-nominee/story%3fid=70502540
Biden said, Not likely. He didn't say Not at all 🤞
phylny
(8,380 posts)but I don't know how many times she has said she is not interested. We should take her at her word.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)She is tainted by the current shit in Minneapolis.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)regard to how they were treated. Some don't believe the accounts.
3catwoman3
(23,993 posts)I can't remember hearing her name mentioned. She would certainly know how everything works.
Budi
(15,325 posts)A longtime advisor of President Barack Obama, Jarrett served as co-chairperson of the Obama-Biden Presidential Transition Team. She is Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Liaison.
Lawyer, businessperson, and civic leader ..
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In 1987, she was tapped to serve as deputy corporation counsel for finance and development for the City of Chicago under Mayor Harold Washington and continued service under Mayor Eugene Sawyer and Mayor Richard M. Daley.
From 1988 to 1989, Jarrett also served as director of Leadership Greater Chicago. In 1991, she served as Mayor Daleys deputy chief of staff.
Jarrett was appointed Chicagos commissioner of planning and development where she consolidated three departments and was awarded the Womens Business Development Centers Government Support Award.
In 1995, Mayor Daley appointed her as chairman of the Chicago Transit Authority where she served for eight years and was responsible for a budget of over $800 million.
That same year, Jarrett was appointed Vice President of the Habitat Company. In 2003, Jarrett was elected to a three-year term as chairman of the Chicago Stock Exchange.
In 2007, Jarrett was named president of the Habitat Company.
And this link doesn't even cover it all...
Celerity
(43,383 posts)been interpreted to date.
Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ted-cruz-is-not-eligible-to-be-president/2016/01/12/1484a7d0-b7af-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html
Donald Trump is actually right about something: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) is not a natural-born citizen and therefore is not eligible to be president or vice president of the United States.
The Constitution provides that No person except a natural born Citizen . . . shall be eligible to the Office of President. The concept of natural born comes from common law, and it is that law the Supreme Court has said we must turn to for the concepts definition. On this subject, common law is clear and unambiguous. The 18th-century English jurist William Blackstone, the preeminent authority on it, declared natural-born citizens are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England, while aliens are such as are born out of it. The key to this division is the assumption of allegiance to ones country of birth. The Americans who drafted the Constitution adopted this principle for the United States. James Madison, known as the father of the Constitution, stated, It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. . . . [And] place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.
Cruz is, of course, a U.S. citizen. As he was born in Canada, he is not natural-born. His mother, however, is an American, and Congress has provided by statute for the naturalization of children born abroad to citizens. Because of the senators parentage, he did not have to follow the lengthy naturalization process that aliens without American parents must undergo. Instead, Cruz was naturalized at birth. This provision has not always been available. For example, there were several decades in the 19th century when children of Americans born abroad were not given automatic naturalization.
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3catwoman3
(23,993 posts)She would be ideal.
DFW
(54,387 posts)I always interpreted that to mean "from another nationality."
My daughters were both born here in Germany. I called the U.S. embassy at the time, and they said just come down with my own passport, a photo, and the birth certificate. Within 2 hours (each time), I walked out with their U.S. birth certificate ("of an American citizen born abroad" ), passport and social security number. Not "naturalized," but American from birth. Neither of them has expressed the slightest interest in public office (one is too shy, and the other would never take that big a pay cut), so no question of their eligibility for major public office ever came up.
Celerity
(43,383 posts)Further down the line of succession they can just be skipped.
DFW
(54,387 posts)I won't worry about it.
Celerity
(43,383 posts)overseas, in the Panama Canal Zone.
DFW
(54,387 posts)The Canal Zone was still U.S. Territory. It wasn't returned to Panama until the Carter era.
Celerity
(43,383 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause#John_McCain
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)If a parent was serving in the US Military and stationed anywhere in the world, it would not matter where the child was born.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)brooklynite
(94,574 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Before she dropped out of the Primary, I was going to vote for her. However, would Biden pick a rival? She is certainly young enough, Minority, and would bring a lot of experience to a VP slot.
Yes, a lot of us would LOVE Michelle, but she doesn't want it I am in the camp who thinks Warren, only 8 years Biden's junior, is too old.
Who knows? He could pick a woman the majority of us have never heard of.