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mysteryowl

(7,390 posts)
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:21 PM May 2020

3rd degree Manslaugher - Minnesota Statute

609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.

(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others AND EVINCING A DEPRAVED MIND, WITHOUT REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.


https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

(Revised statute in 2019)

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3rd degree Manslaugher - Minnesota Statute (Original Post) mysteryowl May 2020 OP
Thanks. elleng May 2020 #1
Your title says manslaughter sarisataka May 2020 #2
Maybe a hate crime would do the trick. JudyM May 2020 #4
It should be charged as a hate crime. Jamastiene May 2020 #5
Yea they would. pwb May 2020 #9
Minnesota doesn't really have sarisataka May 2020 #8
How much is bail for a 3rd degree murder in Minnesota? Baclava May 2020 #3
UMMMM problem here: "...without intent to effect the death of any person..." live love laugh May 2020 #6
The trouble with that scenario sarisataka May 2020 #10
Another cop was charged and convicted of the same crime for killing someone..Got 12 years in prison. Stuart G May 2020 #7
The key to all of this Windy City Charlie May 2020 #11
3rd degree murder is the statute you have excerpted here gristy May 2020 #12

elleng

(130,938 posts)
1. Thanks.
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:24 PM
May 2020

'Minnesota law originally defined third-degree murder solely as depraved-heart murder ("without intent to effect the death of any person, caus[ing] the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life".In 1987, an additional drug-related provision ("without intent to cause death, proximately caus[ing] the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II" was added to the definition of third-degree murder.[7][9] Up until the early 2000s, prosecutions under that provision were rare, but they began to rise in the 2010s. Some reports linked this increase in prosecutions to the opioid epidemic in the United States.'

However, as of 2017 only three states have a crime called third-degree murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-degree_murder

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
2. Your title says manslaughter
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:27 PM
May 2020

It should say murder.

It seems the appropriate charge at this time. To increase it to 2nd degree would require proving an additional felony was committed. That would increase the maximum sentence to 40 years

pwb

(11,275 posts)
9. Yea they would.
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:08 PM
May 2020

They are full of themselves because nobody else will be around them. Its a click within.

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
8. Minnesota doesn't really have
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:06 PM
May 2020

A separate hate crime statute. I don't think there is an enhancement to a murder charge so they will probably leave it to the Feds.

I was pointing out the title says manslaughter but the law in the body is murder

live love laugh

(13,114 posts)
6. UMMMM problem here: "...without intent to effect the death of any person..."
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:04 PM
May 2020

The man was arrested. He was handcuffed. The police transport was available to take him in. But instead he was murdered.

What was the intent of keeping a handcuffed, subdued man pinned to the ground by a knee under the guise of waiting for ambulance--if not premeditated intent to murder?

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
10. The trouble with that scenario
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:24 PM
May 2020

Is they would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt it was his intention to kill Mr Floyd. A good defense attorney could hammer that and get an acquittal.

Better to go with a lesser charge and get a conviction than see him walk because of overcharging.

Stuart G

(38,428 posts)
7. Another cop was charged and convicted of the same crime for killing someone..Got 12 years in prison.
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:05 PM
May 2020

That seems to be what was worked out. 3rd Degree murder - 12 to 25 years...in jail..(if ,and I say if,,,it follows the same pattern)

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
11. The key to all of this
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:27 PM
May 2020

The key to all of this is how effective a prosecutor tries to prosecute the case if it goes to trial.

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