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myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
8. makes...
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jun 2020

...perfectly good sense to me...

...they're taking the opportunity to march against the rise of social injustice and global fascism championed by trump, his administration and followers...

...the pandemic has demonstrated how fragile and incompetent our global economic, political and social structures are...

...we now realize, what affects one, affects us all...

lark

(23,102 posts)
3. Our friends in NZ called us yesterday, very worried for our safety.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 09:10 AM
Jun 2020

They told us soon as the travel ban is lifted - come here and stay with us where it's safe! We have a small family but it's very important to me and NZ is so far away, I hate to leave them. If drumpf steals or cancels the elections, moving there may be a viable alternative for us once we can get vaccinated. If there is no vaccine by early next year, guess old partially disabled us will be part of the revolution.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
7. You are very lucky and I'm very jelly...
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 09:48 AM
Jun 2020

I just love that country and it's people.

So many unique natural wonders, oh... and tree ferns are my absolute favorite plant of all time. So much awesome packed into a relatively small place geographically. From semi tropical rain forests to temperate rain forest and those Remarkable snow capped mountains, geothermal wonders and a sea full of delicious seafood. What's not to like?

Only their immigration policy but I can't fault them for that.

lark

(23,102 posts)
9. I've never been there, we were supposed to go in early Feb. but you know what happened.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 09:57 AM
Jun 2020

Fuck!

If we hadn't met these wonderful people on a river cruise 3 years ago we wouldn't have any chance of moving there either, but they have assured us that we will be welcome there with their sponsorship. Yes, we are lucky for their friendship and thankful as well.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
10. Oh, wow. Well you are in for a treat whether you move or just visit once this mess is stabilized.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:02 AM
Jun 2020

If it ever is.

lark

(23,102 posts)
18. I really don't know since we were officially turned away when we applied.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jun 2020

Jen and Ray tell us they can absolutely get us in, but we will see what's what when there's a vaccine and it's safe to fly again. We're hoping to get there next year, spend at least 3 weeks there and really see if this is doable. 2 weeks for vacation and travel and one week to visit officials, banks, real estate agents, etc.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
5. Kiwis would kick our asses if we actually went in, as in hit the beaches...
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 09:13 AM
Jun 2020

what Trump has done to our military hasn't really improved things much.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
12. New Zealanders should protest in front of the U.S. Embassy
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jun 2020

and scare the shit out of Ambassador Scottie Centerfold Brown and run him out of the country for serving a treasonous so-called president. I'm sure NZ would be glad to rid themselves of such filth.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
17. I never thought I would see the day when people around the world would march
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jun 2020

to help human rights in the US. Just amazing.

I hope all Americans understand now how fragile democracy is.

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