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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Trump's puppet master, Vladimir Putin, behind social unrest in America?
To be clear, we are not talking about peaceful protest, but violence and destruction.
Susan Rice Blames Foreign Actors for Stirring George Floyd Protests: Right Out of the Russian Playbook
Im not reading the intelligence today, or these days but based on my experience, this is right out of the Russian playbook, Rice, who served as national-security adviser to president Obama, said in a CNN interview on Sunday. But we cannot allow the extremists, the foreign actors, to distract from the real problems we have in this country that are longstanding, centuries old, and need to be addressed responsibly.
Anchor Wolf Blitzer responded, youre absolutely right on the foreign interference. Blitzer then asked Rice if she thought the Russians were attempting to embarrass the U.S. by promoting the racial divide in our country.
https://news.yahoo.com/susan-rice-blames-foreign-actors-120019152.html
Well we see it all the time, weve seen it for years, including on social media where they take any divisive, painful issue . . . and they play on both sides, Rice said. I would not be surprised to learn that they have fomented some of these extremists on both sides on social media . . . [or] that theyre funding it in some way, shape, or form.
Botany
(70,508 posts)Of course they are so far this year Russia has:
* Worked on supporting Bernie in the primaries and when U.S. intel reported this Trump fired the
intel people instead of going after Russia.
* Had a lot of bot traffic (>80%) supporting the "open it back up" movement.
* Supported the "big boogaloo" race war meme.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I wish they detailed exactly what it is but these things are classified for a reason so why it was leaked to the Washington Post (they have an editorial bent against Sanders) a day before the primary. I read deep into Russiagate and I haven't read the exact details of what they were up to in the 2020 primary.
I'll make My point like this. RT is calling Bernie a sheepdog which is what Jimmy Dore (a big Russiagate denier) is also calling Bernie a sheepdog so I think they are more interested in dividing people than actually supporting Bernie Sanders. Trump is a different story because he is good at dividing people and somewhat favorable to Russian foreign policy especially in regards to holding them accountable for 2016 election interference.
Doodley
(9,092 posts)enough
(13,259 posts)The Russians are surely promoting and benefitting, but blaming them just obscures the historic and current reality.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Addressing this huge national security threat in no way takes away from the systemic domestic problems Russia is pouring fuel on.
This isn't done for no reason, you know. I'm guessing you don't want Putin getting his asset reelected to the presidency, right? You might also wonder where you might be in four years if that were to happen.
For all the noise about social and economic injustice, many of the noisiest have no real experience of the worst of either. That can change, and that IS Putin's plan.
LakeArenal
(28,818 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I lost most of my post due to loading issues so I'll keep it brief. They played both sides of the BLM/Blue Lives Matter & Take a Knee hashtag. They also like to play conservative veterans -- I happen to be a very progressive veteran.
Active Measures Against the US
Stirring up racial tensions in the United States by mailing bogus letters from the Ku Klux Klan, placing an explosive package in "the Negro section of New York" (operation PANDORA), and spreading conspiracy theories that Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination had been planned by the US government
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures
dalton99a
(81,512 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)... propagandists doing the same thing for YEARS.
Doodley
(9,092 posts)chaos, and interfering with our elections, we have no country. We become a subsidiary of Russia.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)One of my first threads on DU was about the bots from Russia. It wasn't getting as much attention back then.
Upon further thought, however, the fascist industrialists already in this country are a lot more troubling to me.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Remember way back when impeachment was ongoing?
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)... they seem to get more fascist as time passes.
I personally think it could be a natural consequence of the intense scare-mongering of socialism, just like the industrialists who backed the Nazis so strongly in Germany.
I was about to write FEAR of socialism, but the guys at the top aren't scared as much as they're greedy.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)However, Russian would have nothing to exploit racially if America would just deal with the issue it has been basically running from for the last 240+ years.
It is easy to exploit something that is right out in the open, that people do not want to admit, and which people try to separate from the society like it isn't baked into the cake.
There should not be a "both sides" on the issue of racism. There should be one side which understands that racism has weakened this country and continues to tear it apart. There should be one side which maybe has some disagreements on how exactly to tackle the issue of racism, but there should not be 2 sides here. There should be one side where the vast vast majority of us are on and actively rooting out the small minority of people who actively espouse White Supremacy and racism and making them irrelevant.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)+1000
Doodley
(9,092 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)It's a weakness and no doubt Russia is capitalizing on that, big time.
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RainCaster
(10,878 posts)But Zuck is OK with that, because he gets clicks from the trolls too.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Plus they are using the uneducated fox crowd to do their dirty work.
suegeo
(2,573 posts)Putin's puppet and the GOPee are collaborating with the Russian mafia state. The puppet was installed to tear everything apart. The puppet is a puppet mobster in a transnational crime organization. He was mobbed up ever since his daddy. Especially mobbed up with casinos, NYC construction. Money laundering for the Russian mob via real estate.
The governor of Minnesota (Walz) said he misspoke when he claimed the NSA was helping to track white supremacists and other non-Minnesotans agitating and destroying shit.
I believe that the NSA was probably helping. The NSA can track foreign signals, like bad actors in other nation states fueling the disruption.
The whole ousting of Al Franken was republican mafia ratfucking. Garrison Keillor got shut up too. Keillor was one of the first voices to speak out about George W. Dumbass and said the GOP had gone off the rails. They shut him up too.
Manafort handed over Minnesota polling data to the Russians before 2016. The data must have shown that Minnesota was stealable, but somehow they could not pull it off.
2naSalit
(86,634 posts)Betsy deVos' brother.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,996 posts)and his next trophy wife.