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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDuring teleconference with governors, Trump once again called for a ban on burning the US flag
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Im told that on his call with governors and others, Trump is, yet again, calling on a ban against burning the US flag.
The only way to achieve this is an amendment to the constitution as the US Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that a ban would be unconstitutional
The only way to achieve this is an amendment to the constitution as the US Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that a ban would be unconstitutional
Editing to add, per a tweet from a HuffPo reporter, that Trump apparently wants governors to pass state laws banning burning of the US flag:
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Trump is now telling the governors they should pass laws criminalizing the burning of the American flag.
We have a different court. Its time to review that again, Trump said, according to a source. If you wanted to try a very powerful anti-flag burning law, well back you.
We have a different court. Its time to review that again, Trump said, according to a source. If you wanted to try a very powerful anti-flag burning law, well back you.
We have a different court...
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During teleconference with governors, Trump once again called for a ban on burning the US flag (Original Post)
highplainsdem
Jun 2020
OP
So if the court DID overturn that, wouldn't that then mean that the Trumpers also could
smirkymonkey
Jun 2020
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jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)1. I mean this is obviously whats important right now...
A HERETIC I AM
(24,368 posts)2. Oh look! A wannabe dictator is in the White House!
Oh....sorry...
Old news
tetedur
(820 posts)3. Maybe it happened but I didn't see instances of flag burning. Did anyone?
Or is this just another diversion 180 degrees away from what really should be done? Ya Think?
highplainsdem
(48,979 posts)4. One was burned in Lafayette Park last night:
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)5. When you have no new ideas, you keep trying old, unsuccessful ones.
Dumpus is a clusterfuck.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)6. Hey, as long as the Constitution is being used to negate personal exasperatons
How about an amendment banning any civilian from rendering the military salute?
May only be approved on Festivus Day.
330K amendments: We Can Do It
( just in case)
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)7. That issue has already been decided by the USSC
Texas v. Johnson
Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that invalidated prohibitions on desecrating the American flag, which at the time were enforced in 48 of the 50 states. Justice William Brennan wrote for a five-justice majority in holding that defendant Gregory Lee Johnson's act of flag burning was protected speech under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Johnson was represented by attorneys David D. Cole and William Kunstler.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)11. So if the court DID overturn that, wouldn't that then mean that the Trumpers also could
no longer wear the flag as clothing or use its likeness on other personal items ? (Vehicles, weapons, etc.)
I don't think overturning the prohibition on flag desecration would only apply to just burning the flag.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)12. the US Flag Code
https://www.almanac.com/content/us-flag-etiquette-rules-and-guidelines
Codes and rules stand - but laws against the use of "speech" are specifically protected.
those who turn the flag into clothing just don't understand the purpose of the flag ... sigh
How Not to Display the American Flag
The flag and its likeness should be treated with respect. Its image should not be cheapened or tarnished by improper use.
The flag should not be dipped to any person or thing, including government officialseven the President.
The flag should never be displayed with the union (stars) down, unless as a signal of dire distress.
The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored so that it might be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
The flag should never be used as covering for a ceiling.
The flag should never have anything placed on it.
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose, nor embroidered on cushions or handkerchiefs, printed on paper napkins or boxes, nor used as any portion of a costume.
The flag and its likeness should be treated with respect. Its image should not be cheapened or tarnished by improper use.
The flag should not be dipped to any person or thing, including government officialseven the President.
The flag should never be displayed with the union (stars) down, unless as a signal of dire distress.
The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored so that it might be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
The flag should never be used as covering for a ceiling.
The flag should never have anything placed on it.
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose, nor embroidered on cushions or handkerchiefs, printed on paper napkins or boxes, nor used as any portion of a costume.
Codes and rules stand - but laws against the use of "speech" are specifically protected.
those who turn the flag into clothing just don't understand the purpose of the flag ... sigh
LeftInTX
(25,337 posts)8. What's next? Bans on mythical bra burning?
Doodley
(9,091 posts)9. What's worse: Burning a flag or gaslighting a nation?