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BOG PERSON

(2,916 posts)
1. what do you mean you don't "quite" get it
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:34 PM
Sep 2012

you get it in an incomplete way? you understand it in theory but not in a practical sense? you understand it but don't acknowledge its legitimacy?

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
9. Social media + 24 hour news.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:39 PM
Sep 2012

"A lie can travel halfway round the world while the truth is putting on its shoes". Mark Twain.

Response to fadedrose (Reply #5)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. I'm not dying to because I've fucking felt I had to do it dozens of times here
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:37 PM
Sep 2012

already.

Let's see: Has the U.S. done anything over the past few decades that people in the middle east might resent or that might anger them? Hmmm. How about overthrowing democratically elected leaders? How about invading countries and killing hundreds of thousands? How about our lopsided support for Israel? How about our threats to invade and bomb? How about drone strikes that kill civilians on a daily basis in a growing number of countries?

I could go on.

I can't believe how many of you are asking this idiotic, pathetic question.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
15. I agree with all the bad stuff we did...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:50 PM
Sep 2012

We've put in and replaced leaders of almost every country in the world under the "aid" blanket. We do not treat all countries equally. Justice isn't one of our priorities most of the time.

But how could they all be protesting at the same time. This is so well organized that our government had to be aware of the revenge these people seem to be seeking. I know they are fed up with the Palestine situation, but still, all at the same time?

It's the UNITED appearance I can't understand. Hell, we can't get 50 states to agree on anything.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
7. From what I heard on Bill Maher there are not
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:37 PM
Sep 2012

as many protesters as the media is trying to portray.

The media is damn good at making all this look like WWIII and it is NO WERE NEAR THAT.

.i.e. Chis Hayes on Realtime

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/14/chris_hayes_explains_why_he_thinks_people_overreacted_to_hero_comment.html

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
12. Sadly, no. Am very sincere...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:42 PM
Sep 2012

Just now was posted - Sudan and Tunisia diplomats ordered out...

Whatever force has organized so many countries is one to be reckoned with. Can't believe a couple of drones or a movie could do all this.

Didn't the State Dept. have a clue as to how deep the wounds are, or the real cause, or what is that force that is so well organized and trusted?

No, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm actually very worried...

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
14. Look at the "Arab Spring"...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:47 PM
Sep 2012

that was spontaneous to a certain extent but there were also people who had been preparing for it and forces under the radar promoting it.

The "The Arab Winter" is probably propelled by similar though opposing forces (forces that want demagoguery rather than democracy).

BTW: Does anyone know where the phrase "Arab Winter" originated? I heard Romney use it in his first speech about the embassy attacks and noticed DUers used it on the same day. Was it a Fox News meme or mentioned in other media?

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
10. They don't hate us for our freedom.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:39 PM
Sep 2012

They hate us because we've destroyed their freedom.

We (that is the US, the European colonial powers, etc.) have been exploiting these countries, propping up vicious dictators, taking their natural resources and leaving them in poverty hell. The anti-Mohammed video was merely the straw that broke the camel's back.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
13. Granted, we destroyed something -but that they are all mad on the same day!!!?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:44 PM
Sep 2012

Somebodies are celebrating who hate us even more than the protesting countries...

 

libguard

(40 posts)
16. Revolution comes after some improvements make them think more are possible.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:50 PM
Sep 2012

Arab spring allowed them to dream bigger dreams. Until a spark sets them off. Seriously downtrodden almost never revolt. And those that lead the charge, are usually the more elite amongst them.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
17. Well, reading the thread, your question isn't "why," so much as "how"
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 07:17 PM
Sep 2012

So here's how.



fast, cheap, easy mass communication. Wait until Sub-Saharan Africa gets a few more cell phone towers and internet hubs, you think you're seeing crazy shit in the Middle East?

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