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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:14 AM Jun 2020

These protests are making me rethink my stance on gun control

Thinking about the military presence and over-armored police in the cities, most of which have strict gun control laws, and contrasting it to the lockdown protests in Michigan last month. I'm not a gun person, but I'm starting to think it's really unfair that in states like New York, people in the mostly white suburbs have the right to own guns, some without even needing a permit, while in the cities that right is almost non-existent for private citizens. There's a big part of me right now that would like to see peaceful black protesters carry guns and assert their "Second Amendment rights" the same way the protesters in Michigan did. Then either the MAGAts defend their right to keep and bear arms, or expose themselves for the utter hypocrites they are. Why should minorities in the cities be required to be practically defenseless against police abuse while white MAGAts in the suburbs openly storm the Michigan state capitol with guns?

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uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
2. IKR !?!?! Just got through looking at LEOs in KC pepper spray someone who was just talking & sprayed
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:56 AM
Jun 2020

... the girl next to them.

If the person talking had an AK the cops would act different no doubt

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
13. It is a fair question would police do that to a crowd with rifles?
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:03 AM
Jun 2020

A rifle will defeat the bulletproof vests. And if they start firing and commit mass murder, the outcome for them is probably still imminent death.

Kaleva

(36,304 posts)
5. Minorities in Detroit have the same access to guns as MAGAts in rural Michigan
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:31 AM
Jun 2020

Municipalities in Michigan are prohibited from having stricter gun laws then the state.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
9. It might be time to take advantage of that opportunity
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:20 AM
Jun 2020

The police are not our friends and the police cannot control mass civil unrest. This last week should have proven those facts for anyone paying attention.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,854 posts)
6. My stance hasn't changed.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:37 AM
Jun 2020

Until the government outlaws them like Australia or whomever, which wouldn't bother me, I have guns for myself.

Edit: Never prance around with them in public like a bully.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
10. Youll have to ask the people in charge..."common sense" and all that.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:29 AM
Jun 2020

Glad i live in the country.

Pretty much get to protest peacefully, avoid rioting assholes, and still can have some personal peace of mind.

sop

(10,187 posts)
12. 2nd Amendment types will always say the reason they own guns is to fight "government tyranny."
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:37 AM
Jun 2020

The belief that the constitution safeguards the right to own guns precisely so citizens can protect themselves from a tyrannical government used to be a pretty fringe idea, mostly held by rightwing militia groups and Second Amendment purists. In recent years it's become a much more mainstream concept among gun owners. I think the debate should be whether armed resistance is more effective than peaceful resistance.

Polybius

(15,421 posts)
14. There's zero chance of another assault weapons bill passing before 2035
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:10 AM
Jun 2020

Even Biden wins and we win the Senate.

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