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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:19 AM Jun 2020

William Barr sued in a personal capacity as protesters who were gassed seek damages for injuries

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/07/william-barr-sued-in-a-personal-capacity-as-protesters-who-were-gassed-seek-damages-for-injuries/

Protesters are suing President Donald Trump, Attorney General William Barr and a number of federal officials after they were tear-gassed to clear the way for an administration photo-op.

"This case is about the president and attorney general of the United States ordering the use of violence against peaceful demonstrators who were speaking out against discriminatory police brutality targeted at Black people," the complaint reads.

The suit was filed on behalf of Black Lives Matter DC, along with a handful of individual protesters, by the American Civil Liberties Union of the District of Columbia (ACLU), in conjunction with the Washington Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs, Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law and Arnold & Porter LLP.

Along with Trump and Barr, the complaint names Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, Army Gen. James McConville and the heads of the Secret Service, U.S. Park Police and D.C. National Guard, as well as dozens of anonymous officials who carried out the action.

The suit, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, seeks a court order declaring that the assault violated the protesters' First and Fourth Amendment rights and affirming that administration officials engaged in a conspiracy to deny those rights.

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Grab your popcorn.
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William Barr sued in a personal capacity as protesters who were gassed seek damages for injuries (Original Post) sunonmars Jun 2020 OP
Won't go anywhere, but great for visibility. grumpyduck Jun 2020 #1
They lost the Ruby Ridge and Waco lawsuits, so it's possible obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #17
Are they just suing for DC, or did they file suit for the other cities hughee99 Jun 2020 #2
Bless the ACLU.. Those who have not joined/donated (even the smallest amount) please rethink hlthe2b Jun 2020 #3
I totally agree, gab13by13 Jun 2020 #5
Just sent my yearly donation. Duppers Jun 2020 #7
Barr may soon resign? kentuck Jun 2020 #4
He is too arrogant. gab13by13 Jun 2020 #6
None of those people can be sued personally. former9thward Jun 2020 #8
was my first thought as well, the law makes in nearly impossible to successfully sue over this Amishman Jun 2020 #11
Class Action Protection from Abuse Order and Injunction bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #9
Bulbous Barr should pay for his crimes; so should his boss. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #10
That lawsuit will be fun to watch Gothmog Jun 2020 #12
The stuff that was found on the ground that Barr and Trump et al used. Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #13
The other item found Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #14
Back when I was in the military, grumpyduck Jun 2020 #18
These tactics are totally Barrbaric bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #15
The Weavers sued the US government after Ruby Ridge IronLionZion Jun 2020 #16

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
17. They lost the Ruby Ridge and Waco lawsuits, so it's possible
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jun 2020

I believe Richard Jewell also won a civil suit.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
2. Are they just suing for DC, or did they file suit for the other cities
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:39 AM
Jun 2020

That used tear gas recently as well?

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
3. Bless the ACLU.. Those who have not joined/donated (even the smallest amount) please rethink
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:42 AM
Jun 2020

Seriously. You can give as little or as much as you can afford and still help.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
4. Barr may soon resign?
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:43 AM
Jun 2020

He likes smooth waters. When it begins to get rough, he would rather move on, in my opinion.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
8. None of those people can be sued personally.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 08:25 AM
Jun 2020

The law doesn't allow it and any court will toss it. But I guess it is for publicity purposes as far as it goes.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
11. was my first thought as well, the law makes in nearly impossible to successfully sue over this
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:10 AM
Jun 2020

reforming qualified immunity, especially when physical injury and/or property damages are involved, is one of the more important changes that has to come out of all of this.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
9. Class Action Protection from Abuse Order and Injunction
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 08:27 AM
Jun 2020

might be a creative blend of legalese but you get the idea. Anything that binds these cretins to a pillory for 6 months is a good idea to me

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
13. The stuff that was found on the ground that Barr and Trump et al used.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jun 2020
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The Skat Shell® 37 mm CS Round is widely used as a crowd management tool for the rapid and broad deployment of chemical agent. The Skat Shell® contains separate sub-munitions that function individually once the round is discharged. The shell is 5.5 in. by 1.5 in. and delivers approximately 1.2 oz. of active agent out to 100 yards. This round may be fired in the air at an angle of approximately 25-30 degrees to achieve maximum stand-off distance, or it may be skipping fired into the target area from lesser distances.



FIRST AID FOR CN and CS

I. GENERAL:

Remove affected person from the contaminated area to an open space, facing the wind if possible
Remain calm. Restrict activity.
Major discomfort should disappear within 10 to 20 minutes. If major discomfort persists, contact EMS.
II. EYES: Burning sensation, heavy flow of tears, involuntary closing of eyes.

Keep eyes open facing wind.
DO NOT rub eyes.
Tearing helps clear the eyes.
If effects persist, wash out with large amounts of water.
III. NOSE: Irritation, burning sensation, nasal discharge.

Breathe normally.
Blow nose to remove discharge.
IV. SKIN: Stinging or burning sensations on moist skin areas. In some extreme cases, blisters may form.

DO NOT apply creams, salves, oils, lotions, or burn cream, as they will only trap the agent on the skin.
Sit and remain quiet.
Expose the affected areas to air.
Cross contamination can be relieved by flushing with fresh water for at least 10 minutes.
For CS, a solution of 5% to 10% sodium bicarbonate or sodium carbonate is superior to water.
V. CHEST: Irritation, burning sensation, coughing, the sensation of shortness of breath, tightness in chest, often accompanied by a feeling of panic.

Keep subject calm and restrict activity.
Talking reassuringly to the victim may help to relieve their discomfort and prevent panic.
NOTE: If at any point the subject states or appears that they are in medical distress, immediately contact the EMS or a Medical Service Unit.

Contact Defense Technology® with any questions regarding these procedures.  

AREA DECONTAMINATION FOR CN and CS

STEP 1: Ventilate the building to remove airborne CN or CS. Open all doors and windows that weather permits. The sooner this can be done, the better. If fans can be placed to increase ventilation, this will help. Remove spent chemical agent casings immediately as they are heavily contaminated. Remove all contents for separate decontamination.

STEP 2: If CN or CS powder was used, a commercial water vacuum cleaner should be used to trap the powder. Wet clean where possible, using commercially available detergents like Dawn or Simple Green.

STEP 3: Shut all doors and windows and heat the building as hot as is practical (at least four hours at a minimum of 95° F (35°C). Open a window at each end of the building. Place a fan blowing to the outside at one of the openings. Continue to heat the building. This vaporizes much of the CN or CS and carries it out of the building.

STEP 4: Surfaces which will not be damaged can be decontaminated with a 5% solution of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate).

STEP 5: Dry cleaning is suggested for decontaminating clothing and other fabrics. More than one treatment may be necessary.

STEP 6: Exposed foods will absorb CN and CS and should be discarded. CN and CS penetrate many plastics, so wrapped foods will probably be contaminated. Foods in cans may be usable after the outside of the cans have been thoroughly cleaned. Always check with the local health department regarding the sale of merchandise that has been exposed to chemical agents.

NOTE: Rubber gloves and a gauze face mask should be used by personnel during the clean up stage to prevent the possibility of residual contamination. In heavily contaminated premises, some of the above steps will need to be repeated a number of times to remove lingering traces of CN and CS.

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
14. The other item found
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:06 AM
Jun 2020
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Spede-Heat™ Continuous Discharge Chemical Grenade, CS
MODEL: 1072 SKU: 1011567 PART: 1072
The Spede-Heat™ CS Grenade is a high volume, continuous burn it expels its payload in approximately 20-40 seconds. The payload is discharged through four gas ports on top of the canister, three on the side and one on the bottom. This launchable grenade is 6.12 in. by 2.62 in. and holds approximately 2.9 oz. of active agent.


grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)
18. Back when I was in the military,
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jun 2020

one of the guys had a CS grenade go off in his hand. It was one of the old "baseball" ones which had just enough explosive to burst the thing, so he just got a few scrapes and such from the explosion. However, after a very interesting visit to the base hospital (during which everyone ran out of the room before coming back in wearing gas masks), he literally spent most of the rest of the day under the shower. Everything he was wearing got tossed. We were nice and let him sleep in the barracks that night, but he still had a bit of smell on him.

That stuff is nasty.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
16. The Weavers sued the US government after Ruby Ridge
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jun 2020

and they got money.

Branch Davidians sued the US government after the Waco siege.

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