"Karen"

[Archae]

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[sunonmars]

1. Hope you said "I can and I did", they need to learn some manners.

[LizBeth]

3. The reaction was a lesson on how we want people to behave? The kid screwed up. Adult response is to

yell at the kid? That is the lesson we want to teach? Lol.

[LizBeth]

2. Wow, you yelled at a kid because he was being a kid, may have been an oops, whatever. You yelled at

a kid? Huh.

[demmiblue]

5. Not surprising. At all. n/t

[CurtEastPoint]

6. I've had this happen, for example, and kid or adult, if they crash your achilles tendon you cannnot

help but yell OUCH! Think maybe that's what happened? Reflex?

[demmiblue]

8. Not when you describe a child as a brat and are bragging about yelling at said child on DU. n/t

[CurtEastPoint]

9. All it said was 'she yelled.' Didn't say what.

[LizBeth]

12. Right. Now I am wondering what was yelled. Hey stupid ass kid. Watch the fuck what you are doing. !!

I don't know and we were not told what was yelled.

[LizBeth]

11. Exactly. I actually started considering my experience. I immediate said ouch and pulled leg up.

looked behind saw a kid and did a dramatic, ouch ouch ouch, hopping on leg. Mother says, so sorry. I laugh and said it is ok. Bent to the kid with a smile, booking eye to eye and told them, gotta be careful and pay attention. That hurts.

Now, that would be the lesson I would want my children to learn, not by some stranger hitting a 100 in no time and in anger yelling at them.

If that happened, I would then have a conversation later with my kid that behavior was inappropriate and the better reaction would be...

So, I find all this kind of funny. Thank you for going there.

[sunonmars]

7. He if rammed her, I'd be furious, difference between a knock and a ram.

Not to mention, they can cause a lot of pain, can be sharp and why is the kid ramming it in the first place.

[demmiblue]

10. FFS, the child was not likely ramming the snowflake.

It was most likely an accident. WTF is up with some people?!

[LizBeth]

13. Furious? I would certainly address, but Furious?

[Archae]

14. Exactly. BTW, this was several years ago.

Halfway down the aisle, not at one end or the other, kid rams me, keeps going, knocks over display.

I yell at the kid "No running with carts!"

Mother shows up minutes later, looking for kid, kid whines about "bad man yelling at me," I point out I now will have a big bruise from kid's ramming.

Woman screams at me "No one talks to my kid like that!"

Store manager shows up, he saw the whole thing, he throws stupid woman and kid out.
Asks me if I need medical help, I tell him no.

But days later sure enough very nice bruise develops.

This woman was a "Karen," although I used more colorful language, not to her face though.

The Central Park dog choker was a "Karen."

So was the woman who called the cops because a black woman was resting on a park bench.

And many others.

[sunonmars]

16. Yup, has happened to me too, kid just felt he was on a racetrack, you can't let that go.

[Tipperary]

21. "Stupid woman."

I think we get it.

[demmiblue]

23. I have always gotten a weird incel vibe from some people on the internet.

I don't think I'm alone in that.

[Tipperary]

26. Boom.

This.

[Archae]

24. If the parent had been a guy I would describe him as stupid guy.

I don't give a shit what gender a parent is, when they let their kids run rampant, it causes problems.

When I was a stock person at a toy store, I saw parents letting their kids open packages of toys on the shelf, play with and sometimes break them, and just walk off.

Some parents can be really irresponsible.

[Tipperary]

25. And would you have confronted him?

This “Karen” thing seems to give a lot of guys a real giggle, though no one seems to talk about the idiots like that guy on the bike, the one in the black woman’s face in Montana, etc. what is their pet name?

[Archae]

27. I didn't confront the woman.

In pain and a bit of shock I yelled at her brat.
Then I pointed out to the woman where it hurts.

The store manager confronted the woman.

And some kids CAN be brats if they run wild.

As to guys being like "Karen," I've noticed they get called "Chad."

[Tipperary]

19. Ha. No shit.

That has happened to me at the store. The most I have said, is “excuse me?” With a raised eyebrow.

[demmiblue]

4. OK, Chad. n/t

[Archae]

17. I was just reminded of a 2000 TV ad...

Where some women had trouble with a "Chad," that charged in yelling to scare some elderly women.

"CHAD!!!"

[Midnightwalk]

35. Chad was a big problem

Back in 2000. Always hanging around, screwing up elections. I blame him for everything bad that’s happened since.

It’s funny to me how your story is kind of like a Rorschach test. I liked the thread better when there were fewer details.

[Beringia]

15. One of my relatives sort of does this

They chew out store employees or waitresses sometimes. I just hold my breath.

This relative is not what you could call entitled. She has experienced incredible prejudice herself, but she has a hot temper for sure.

[CentralMass]

18. It is an unfortunate choice of names. I know a few women named Karen that I think highly of.

[stopdiggin]

20. depending on what actually went on

A brief moment of anger at a child (even from a non-parent) is NOT anything other than human .. and probably justified. A screaming rampage? 'Course not. But I don't think anyone is suggesting that's what happened here. And if your kid is running around rampant (and heedlessly) .. crashing into, and hurting, other people .. and you're not attending to the situation. Then little Susie or Billie probably deserves a little barking at. S' called lessens on life. Don't crash into other people!

Don't want other people correcting your kid? .. then you do it!

[sunonmars]

22. "Karen" kids are probably not well trained or looked after, probably learn watching the parents.....

[customerserviceguy]

28. "You can't talk to my child like that!"

My response: "Somebody needs to, it's clear that you're doing a poor job of raising this little monster."

[Archae]

29. Looks like a couple people here would let the Mom and kid off the hook...

One already has me "pegged" as an "incel."

[customerserviceguy]

31. Ah, yes

the "be your kid's friend and not his/her parent" crowd. They've raised self-centered brats everywhere you go.

[Archae]

34. Like Fred Trump did!

[customerserviceguy]

36. Perfect example!

And the generation of Trumps after that have also been poorly raised.

[madaboutharry]

30. First of all, it was probably an accident and you shouldn't have yelled at someone else's child.

Secondly, this "Karen" meme is misogynistic and sexist.

DU is designed to express opinions and that is mine. Have a nice day.

[customerserviceguy]

32. If the kid smacked me

with a shopping cart, I have every right to say, sharply, "Hey, don't do that!"

If the parental unit wants to tangle with me verbally, I'll tangle back.

[Archae]

33. Like I said, I was in a lot of pain, and a bit of shock at having been hit so hard like that.

I reacted.

But Mommy didn't help matters one damn bit.

That's why she was made to leave the store, and I wasn't.

[11 Bravo]

37. The "Karen" meme is directed at asshole females.

"Chad" and "Florida man" are directed at asshole males.

Neither is misogynistic or misandrist, simply gender specific.

Get the fuck over it.

There. You have a nice day, as well.

[stopdiggin]

39. where did we ever come up with the idea that we CANNOT

speak to other people's kids? What utter nonsense! I general stay out of the way of parenting situations, because the parents are obviously primary. (assuming any "parenting" is going on) But the idea that no one else has any input? Craziness! Particularly when the child in question is running off the rails. Takes a village and all that.

An occasional show of anger is quite instructive in the lessons of life.

[Shermann]

38. I love Karen Hair

Suze Orman needs to find a new look now though.

[haele]

40. And that is why we don't take the 4 year old to the store without two of us.

She's defiantly aggressive, treats everyplace like her playground, and is greedy/sneaky when it comes to sweets and treats.
She's not yet suitable for public, and now that she's too big for the cart, I won't risk her injuring someone or getting us banned from the commissary because she just cannot slow down and pay attention to her surroundings.
I would apologise in that woman's position. I love my grandkids, but I'm also honest about the risks she brings with her.
I can't wait for her to grow out of this stage.

Haele