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Shiv

(113 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 07:41 AM Jun 2020

Conspiracy-nut-in-chief take down put together for the fam -

I may or may not have accidentally created a guerrilla pirate radio station to arm the more sensible fam, esp. some of the wives dealing with brothers or fathers-in-laws, that have been joining interventions with me (another story for another time, very hopeful one tho).

And just generally, you know, to flood the zone with better sourced information and not wing-ding dittohead stuff.

Anyways, it cracked us up here so I thought you all might enjoy a mornin' laugh as well (also permission to use verbatim, I don't need these words anywhere near as much as truth needs to be dropped on someone right now) -

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Today, after coming together to put the enemy within, bigotry, down and behind us in a long journey yet to come, it is time to face the enemy without. And their agent-in-chief, Donald J Trump.

Whether the man has dementia or he truly knows what he is doing rather is an irrelevant point, when you see a 75 year-old man shoved to the ground and try to CYA by wiping profusely with a Russian-sourced intelligence product, You. Are. A. Traitor. To. America.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/09/report-oann-staffers-detract-from-conspiratorial-report-about-antifa-provocateur-cited-by-trump/#1841623d6301

I swear to you, the one conspiracy theory he's avoided so far is saying the moon landing was faked, but if he somehow is re-elected I fully expect him to start up on that, too. Then he can satisfy his ego by trying to tell us no one thought of landing men (and women this time) on the moon until him and that it had never been done before. *facepalm*

Whenever you are confronted by this conspiratorial nonsense and the attempts to pit American against American, whether it comes from 45*'s own thumbs or a dittohead on the radio or Faux, the creator's of that content are Russian Intelligence, and the goal is to keep one portion of the populace enraged at the majority of the country, to keep us off-balance, to keep an incompetent administration in power, to keep the world stage open for bad actors. This is not just a fabrication - our senate has released a bipartisan, joint report on these activities:

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume2.pdf
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume1.pdf

The interference and use of propaganda managed to sway an election once without an active attack on any actual vote-casting mechanism, by getting three states within 75,000 votes of reduced turn-out from apathetic voters and deceiving one side with conspiracy after conspiracy after conspiracy about the first woman candidate. Playing into America's ingrained misogyny and inability to see a woman in a position of leadership, power or authority, regardless of her shortcomings. Russia loves doing this, because that woman happens to be the female Secretary of State who passively-aggressively trolled Vlad during unrest in Russia (2011-12):

"Ms Clinton was vocal in her concerns about the election.

"The OSCE (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe), for example, cites election day attempts to stuff ballot boxes, manipulate voter lists and other troubling practices," she said.

Mr Putin, refusing to admit his own popularity was under threat, said the US State Department and its secretary Ms Clinton were interfering in his affairs, stirring up protests against him.

"Our partners shake us from time to time so that we don't forget who owns this planet," he said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-22/vladimir-putin-and-hillary-clinton-hatred-explained/9783076
https://nationalpost.com/news/putin-accuses-u-s-of-inciting-russian-protests-clinton-gave-a-signal
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia/putin-says-u-s-stoked-russian-protests-idUSTRE7B610S20111208

And damn right. Damn right we used to shake Russia and not let her forget who the 800-lbs gorilla on the world stage is. Not some Italy-sized economy mono-resourced criminal oil oligarchy, that's for sure.

So when you see Donald J. Trump, right-wing news repeating whack conspiracies, when you see GOP senators and White House staff smile and pretend they don't see or hear the ridiculous tweets and stories out there, know this is what you are witnessing -

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/09/report-oann-staffers-detract-from-conspiratorial-report-about-antifa-provocateur-cited-by-trump/#1841623d6301
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-calls-buffalo-protester-martin-gugino-antifa-provocateur/

Constantly using foreign aligned, Russian agent employed information and propaganda, is not legally treason. We have no formal declaration of war. But it certainly violates a president's Oath to the U.S. Constitution. And a traitor by any other name...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network
https://sputniknews.com/search/?query=75+old+man
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-shiv

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Conspiracy-nut-in-chief take down put together for the fam - (Original Post) Shiv Jun 2020 OP
I am going to wash socks early this morning. BBL. n/t rzemanfl Jun 2020 #1
Hah! last time.. Shiv Jun 2020 #2
Oh. Some people sleep in their socks. rzemanfl Jun 2020 #3
yup obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #6
The other story about intervening - short version Shiv Jun 2020 #4
Why thank you Shiv Jun 2020 #5

Shiv

(113 posts)
4. The other story about intervening - short version
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 08:30 AM
Jun 2020

We recently managed to get through to a mildly right-wing family member about not posting the confederate flag to aggravate the situation, mainly through a combination of acceptable contexts and sharing General Lee's words himself about not glorifying or aggrandizing the South after the war was over with monuments and what not. He apologized the next day and admitted he hadn't known, and got a lot of people telling him we were proud for him being able to do that.

Growth is possible, keep hopin' people.

Shiv

(113 posts)
5. Why thank you
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 09:57 AM
Jun 2020

Rather than continued engagement just going to take the compliment that I sound like an established DU poster, considering the writing talent I've seen here before, not sure how else one would take that.

Peace and Vote!

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