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I am posting this following a discussion with a friend who has been socially distancing, but is eager to get back to normal. I think the problem is that while it has been bad with 110,000+ deaths, it is hard to grasp the risk that is posed to him and his family personally.
We tend to focus on the chance of death, but you have to look at the risk of hospitalization, because you can be pretty messed up even if you do not die as this CNN report shows:
The fact of the matter is that only a small percentage of the U.S. population has been infected with COVID-19, so we are far away from "herd immunity" with 110,000+ people dead already, which is rarely discussed. We are reopening, yet due to Trump's screwed up response, the curve has just stalled, but it is not even bending, If anything, it may shoot up again.
Finally, many Republicans still compare it to the flu. The national rate of death among people infected with the novel coronavirus -- SARS-CoV-2 -- that causes COVID-19 and who show symptoms is 1.3%, the study found. The comparable rate of death for the seasonal flu is 0.1%.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-03-30/odds-of-hospitalization-death-with-covid-19-rise-steadily-with-age-study
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As the researchers explained, there's thought to be a very wide pool of infected-but-well people in their 50s in the general population. So, when Ferguson's group adjusted for those hidden cases, the rate of hospitalization for people in their 50s was still much lower than for people in their 80s -- 8.2% versus 18.4%, respectively.
By decade, the risk of hospitalization from infection with the new coronavirus is: Zero for kids under 10; 0.1% for kids 10 to 19; 1% for people aged 20 to 29; 3.4% for people aged 30 to 39; 4.3% for people in their 40s; 8.2% for those in their 50s; 11.8% for people aged 60 to 69; 16.6% for those in their 70s; and 18.4% for those in their 80s or above.
As for the death rate, the risk was near zero for people under 40, crept up to 0.2% for people 40 to 49, to 0.6% for 50-somethings, just under 2% for people in their 60s, 4.3% for those in their 70s, and 7.8% for those in their 80s, the findings showed.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)For how many nights in a row?
This has to bring a big spike in cases!
Apparently police brutality disgust > lives / safety of others
Strange times.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...and demanded that we reopen. The current protests coincide with reopening, so you really can't have it both ways and say that we are over the hump and lets reopen and get out, but stay at home and do not protest, because of the pandemic.
I think due to the pandemic, rights wingers have had free reign to protest and get a lot of attention. At local government meetings, you see an odd coalition of anti-vaxers and Trump supporters claiming that COVID-19 is a hoax.
What you are seeing is frustration. On the left, if we stay at home, the right gets free reign to push their propaganda. So, I think we are placed in a position of risking our lives to fight for what is right.
In contrast, the right is not risking anything, because they think that COVID-19 is just a big hoax.
dickthegrouch
(3,174 posts)It seems that the illness lasts a really long time in most people who catch it. The newspaper lists cases, deaths and recoveries with the latter severely lagging.
I presume that many recoveries arent officially reported, but that just makes it all the more strange that they report the number at all.
Anyone know whats going on?
appalachiablue
(41,132 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,201 posts).
There is a theory proffered that COVID likes sugar and that is pretty much what the American diet has adapted our bodies to operate with, unlike a ketogenic diet that shies away from carbohydrates as a primary fuel source and operates primarily under fats and proteins. Carb diets produce insulin-resistance, fatty liver and decreased autoimmune functions are just some of the side effects that seem to favor COVID-19.
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