WATCH: Neighbors stunned as cop takes down Black Amazon driver for parking the wrong way

[TheBlackAdder]

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A neighborhood in Warren, Michigan expressed shock this week when local police took down a black Amazon driver for merely parking the wrong way on their street.

Fox 2 Detroit reports that witnesses say the Amazon driver was tackled by a police officer shortly after delivering a package to local resident Diana Gouim.

Gouim’s neighbor, Geri Cheatham, tells Fox 2 Detroit that she didn’t understand why the police officer tackled the driver and why he then called for backup.

“It was ridiculous for one little kid that was the size of me,” she tells the station.

Jim Michaels, another witness on the scene, tells Fox 2 Detroit that many of the neighbors tried to convince the officers that the driver had done nothing wrong.

“We, several of the neighbors, spoke with the officer saying the kid hasn’t done anything and the cop was like well, ‘He was parked the wrong way,'” Michaels recalls.

The Warren Police Department says that the incident is being reviewed, and Police Commissioner Bill Dwyer so far has refused to say why the driver was detained.

Video link:
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/witnesses-say-warren-police-arrest-amazon-driver-for-parking-on-street-the-wrong-way


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/watch-neighbors-stunned-as-cop-takes-down-black-amazon-driver-for-parking-the-wrong-way/

Perhaps those police officers homes and offices should be banned from Amazon deliveries.

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[Freedomofspeech]

1. They just won't stop...

Serve and protect only white people. SMH.

[DSandra]

14. Are they police or are they slave patrol members?

[Freedomofspeech]

21. Can you even imagine having so much hate in your heart?

[yardwork]

36. Apparently it's the same thing in many communities.

[DENVERPOPS]

92. How about

Nazi SS members...........or gestapo.......

I can only imagine how many hundreds of times this happens every day with no video........

[Hekate]

101. Good observation. Welcome to DU.

[calimary]

109. Welcome to DU, DSandra.

Your question is, unfortunately, a good one. What a disgrace that it even has to be asked, to begin with.

[jacobfloyd]

114. race soldiers is the proper term

[wnylib]

119. RW racial supremacy militia members.

Michigan has a lot of them. That's where Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols learned bomb techniques to practice and got RW anti government literature.

There are groups like that all over the country, mostly in small towns and rural areas, but also some cities. They like to join police forces and harrass POC. The Guardian did an article on them and PBS did a documentary on FBI warnings about them.

[PandoraAwakened]

142. Oh the IRONY of it all..

Notice in the video that as multiple cops arrive to ogle over the arrest of a black deliveryman for "parking on the wrong side of the street," a white cop both drives on and parks his motorcycle on the SIDEWALK.

The cop is violating the following Warren City Ordinance: Sec. 37-701 under Article VI, Other Traffic Regulations. Under this law, ALL motor vehicles, "including but not limited to motorbikes and mini-bikes" are prohibited from driving on ANY public property that is not a street, alley, parking lot, or driveway. In other words, NO DRIVING ON SIDEWALKS, DUMBASS!

I think the sidewalk driving should have at least warranted a tackle takedown & cuffing at gunpoint by any one of the many cops standing around, don't you?

[DSandra]

146. Laws are only for minorities in much of America, apparently

[wryter2000]

2. Will they never learn?

Don't they have something better to do with their time? Thank heaven the people spoke up.

[TheBlackAdder]

42. They'll learn when Amazon blacklists them for 30 days for first offense, 60 days for second, etc.

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Not just the one officer, but everyone in the department.

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[RainCaster]

56. Banish lists can be powerful

Cut the whole city for 2 weeks, or until an apology is made.

[PatSeg]

106. And are they totally unaware of what is

happening all over the country? Do they really think it won't affect them?

Meanwhile, too many cops with not enough to do and too many weapons. They probably got their training from watching cop shows on TV.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. FTP.

Why were they there in the first place?

[Maraya1969]

8. God question. It looks like they are just driving around looking for young black men now.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

4. The FBI warnings about white supremacists...

... joining the police seems more and more likely.

[LAS14]

11. Do you know where the link is for the FBI memo? I've been looking for it. nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

15. 2006 memo...

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf

Edit: Much of it is redacted, unfortunately. Here is a PBS article about it too:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement

[LAS14]

45. Thanks!!! This is super scary. There's no reforming skinheads.

"In the 2006 bulletin, the FBI detailed the threat of white nationalists and skinheads infiltrating police in order to disrupt investigations against fellow members and recruit other supremacists. The bulletin was released during a period of scandal for many law enforcement agencies throughout the country, including a neo-Nazi gang formed by members of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department who harassed black and Latino communities. Similar investigations revealed officers and entire agencies with hate group ties in Illinois, Ohio and Texas."

[tblue37]

74. Article from The Grio:

https://thegrio.com/2017/01/31/fbi-investigates-white-supremacist-law-enforcement/

[Buckeye_Democrat]

79. Thanks.

There's historical precedent too. Then there's surely many recruits who followed in the footsteps of their cop-uncle Zeke, or whomever.

[malaise]

12. THIS

is the truth

[Buckeye_Democrat]

29. I had a coworker who left to become a cop...

... and he kept saying that I looked like a Jew, but only after I'd contradicted him a few times about Fox News "reporting".

I just laughed it off, and it wouldn't bother me at all if I WAS Jewish anyway, but now I wonder if he was secretly a Neo-Nazi type?

[malaise]

41. I'll will never understand humanity

and the hatred of the other. Life has taught me that no race is superior to any other race or ethnicity.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

44. It's sick.

I suspect it's a way for people with low self-esteem to feel better about themselves.

Edit: I'm even turned off by people who strongly attach themselves to their country, or just about any other group.

[panader0]

116. I think people should embrace their differences.

Different foods, styles, beliefs, music and so much more.
What a boring world it would be if we were all the same. I have Irish, English and Crow heritage.
My children's mother was half Hispanic. So then my daughter married a guy who is half Filipino.
My new granddaughter is part of all that. I think that someday everyone will be Heinz 57, mixed.
Let's celebrate what we have now.

[malaise]

117. Sounds like our families

A young boy (eight Years old) once asked me why people are black. I took him to a park and asked him to tell me why he had never asked me about the different colors of the flowers and the tree trunks and branches. I love our differences and our similarities.

I must be one of the lucky ones- I've never wanted to be anyone but me.

[lame54]

58. Ummm...these guys clued us in 28 years ago.

[malaise]

120. The Con hates Amazon and they hate black men

MAGAts all!

[uponit7771]

78. K&R,

[jacobfloyd]

115. They were ALWAYS there

When have racist white men NOT been a part of law enforcement? What period? What year?

[5X]

5. His motorcycle is parked on the sidewalk. n/t

[fleur-de-lisa]

13. Arrest him!

[plimsoll]

40. I saw that too.

I mean seriously, having a motorized vehicle on the sidewalk is probably a hanging offense in that jurisdiction.

[jaxexpat]

59. Or at least a two-tackle, nuckle noogie. Or worse even.........

disembowelment, drawn and quartered. 24 hours of Reagan movies over and over and over, oh the humanity.

But seriously, I'm getting totally fed up with the "under investigation" cover up standard of justice.

[SunSeeker]

127. LOL

[NutmegYankee]

6. It's way more fucked up. The driver is being charged with a felony.

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/warren-police-recommending-felony-charges-against-amazon-driver-for-resisting-arrest-failed-to-show-id

[safeinOhio]

17. Parking in the wrong direction while being Black?

Defund the Warren Police.

[NutmegYankee]

22. And that coward police chief backs his officer

It's disgusting!

[safeinOhio]

25. Anyone living in Warren, might

drop the elected mayor and tell him you will not vote for him and will support and donate to anyone that runs against him unless he fires the police chief.

Make your voice count.

[Mariana]

84. I suspect the police chief isn't backing the officer because he's a coward.

I suspect the police chief heartily approves of the behavior of his officers. I suspect that he actively encourages and rewards such behavior.

[lame54]

60. Fill in the blank while being black

[TheBlackAdder]

52. That's because judges would laugh that ticket out of court and cops had to justify being assholes.

[erronis]

57. Not always. The filth rises up into the judiciary also. (As you know.)

Police, prosecutors, judges.

With trump include federal police, prosecutors, judges.

[npk]

7. This is why people hate cops

But hopefully these cops days are numbered. Hopefully when these departments across the country clean house and others dismantle their departments altogether, cops like this will be off the streets and looking for a new job.

[DSandra]

27. Departments need to be dismantled and officers hired with much more thorough background checks

And any corruption needs to be stamped out as fast as possible.

[npk]

31. And make it harder for the cops to go from one department to the next

Tired of seeing a cop fired for the right reasons at one department only to be hired on at another department. That shit needs to stop also.

[Hekate]

104. Need to have a national data base of bad cops so they can't be moved around like bad priests...

Need to have a national data base of bad cops so they can't be moved around like bad priests...

...and bad Boy Scout leaders.

Oh wait, what do these 3 groups have in common? Let me think...

[Blue_true]

130. The changes that President Obama made had that.

Trump undid them.

Trump needs to go.

[Blue_true]

129. One change that President Obama put in place was a registry that lists why cops were fired.

Trump ended that process.

[Sapient Donkey]

143. Yeah, that cop was being a power tripping asshole

People might say the guy shouldn't have argued with the cop, but that's bullshit. These cops act like bullies and they are allowed to get away with it, and us citizens who object to it end up getting arrested, beat, and in some cases killed. Even as a white dude I've dealt with asshole cops, but it's pretty rare and isn't as bad as what we often see. Even in those few encounters I've had, I've wanted to tell the cops to go screw themselves. If that happened regularly for me as it seems to happen for non-whites (particularly african americans), I have little doubt I would not be able to keep my mouth shut.

Really need to do something in these police departments and get rid of the cops and culture that pushes that power tripping and us vs. them attitudes.

[Pisces]

9. I guarantee he thought the kid was stealing packages not delivering them.

[LAS14]

39. With an Amazon truck? nt

[Mr.Bill]

69. Actually that would be rather clever.

[SunSeeker]

124. He was an Amazon contractor, so the van may not have had Amazon insignia.

I've seen plain white van deliver my Amazon stuff.

[SunSeeker]

125. Yup. Bet his truck was unmarked since he worked for a contractor ("Delivery Service Provider" ).

From the article:

“We see what others see in this video, and it’s unacceptable. We expect a swift investigation and full accountability for those involved. Amazon will deploy all necessary resources to investigate the matter with our Delivery Service Provider, as well as to represent and support the driver," said Deborah Bass, an Amazon spokesperson.

[DSandra]

10. My goodness, why the hell do so many whites believe being black is a crime?

I’m not white and I just can’t understand it.

[exboyfil]

16. I don't understand what the big deal is about parking

for a short time in the wrong direction on a residential street?

Apparently the cop did ask him 11 times for his driver's license. I wonder if he asks white delivery driver's to also provide their licenses?

https://www.macombdaily.com/news/copscourts/warren-officer-asked-amazon-driver-11-times-to-show-license-before-arrest/article_f1eca9d4-ab3d-11ea-be56-bf7d55713fd6.html

[erronis]

61. Every jurisdiction has its own rules about how to park on residential streets.

There's no "federal" or even state (that I know of) law that says which direction on two-way residential street you have to park. Most neighborhoods I've lived in allow either direction. However, for safety I have rarely parked against the oncoming flow.

[SharonClark]

139. In my city, you have to park on the side you

drive on, otherwise you are (even if momentarily) driving the wrong way. I rarely see a car parked the wrong way and have never heard of anyone being ticketed for it.

[BSdetect]

18. This is ridiculous. WTF

[Ilsa]

19. Deliver the packages like this:

?fit=709%2C709&ssl=1

[mwooldri]

51. Ace Ventura's delivery service?

Opening scene of the movie Ace Ventura - Pet Detective... Jim Carrey absolutely trashes a (fake) package he's "delivering" to a suspect pet thief.

Though seriously Amazon could easily blacklist that whole town and decide to deliver to a central location only - for the safety of their drivers of course.

[Ilsa]

53. LOL. I barely remember the opening, but the

Hawaiian shirt pink tutu bubblewrap scene made an indelible impression.

[yonder]

20. Let's hope Amazon does the right thing here.

Keep him employed!

[jayfish]

23. Upon initial review of the video, an Amazon spokesperson said:

“We see what others see in this video, and it’s unacceptable. We expect a swift investigation and full accountability for those involved. Amazon will deploy all necessary resources to investigate the matter with our Delivery Service Provider, as well as to represent and support the driver."

[azureblue]

82. is there a record of this "11 times"?

Like a video? If not, take it yet another cop lie, to justify his racist abuse. Cops lie, especially when they are caught abusing their authority. The commander spouts the usual CYA. I hope Amazon stops home delivery to these cops and their precinct commander. And Amazon uses their lawyers to sue the cops for interfering with delivery.

[uponit7771]

94. It doesn't matter eventually before the guy went down he reached for his wallet and then was attacke

... attacked by the thug assed cop.

[NutmegYankee]

24. Amazon is behind the driver.

Upon initial review of the video, an Amazon spokesperson said: “We see what others see in this video, and it’s unacceptable. We expect a swift investigation and full accountability for those involved. Amazon will deploy all necessary resources to investigate the matter with our Delivery Service Provider, as well as to represent and support the driver."

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/warren-police-recommending-felony-charges-against-amazon-driver-for-resisting-arrest-failed-to-show-id

[yonder]

65. That is encouraging, especially if they follow through.

[stopdiggin]

26. read the link -- then comment

"officer requested the delivery man's license 11 times before the confrontation appears to escalate."

This is what happens when you think you DON'T have to show your drivers license .. and arguing the point with the police is going to somehow resolve the situation. Not in my experience! Amazon driver did both things he's being charged with -- "failure to provide" and "resisting" Why are we crying about this?

[NutmegYankee]

32. Because we know he was being hassled for being black in a white neighborhood.

We know that the young man was rightfully annoyed at the harassment. We also know police would not escalate this with a white man (assuming he even bothered to engage in the first place). The Officer could have been more patient and respectful, but racial animosity didn't let him.

And let's face it - parking a van to allow the driver to step out to a sidewalk and not into traffic on a residential street was done for safety. It never should have been an issue in the first place.

[DSandra]

46. It seems that white police officers get angry when blacks do not "respect their superiority"

In that when blacks get sick and tired of being abused, and start to resist, whites feel threatened like the old slave masters.

[NutmegYankee]

63. Exactly! nt

[uponit7771]

96. +1

[DSandra]

33. I do food delivery and I've had to park in red curbs, double park...

Of course with hazard lights on. I’ve never gotten cited or anything (I’m not considered white but I do have relatively light skin.) That driver likely had hazard lights on. Police officers have discretion in enforcing laws.

[stopdiggin]

38. look. it may be totally f**ked-up that LE is hassling

about parking on the wrong side of the street ... That's legit. Deciding that you're NOT going to provide your driver's license .. That's not. You're going to eventually find yourself in the back of a squad car!

[progressoid]

55. I had a semi parked illegally in front of my house for an hour delivering wood for our deck.

The policeman that lives around the corner from me just drove by. Of course there was one big difference. The semi driver wasn't Black.

[stopdiggin]

99. cops drive by thousands of these types of things

every day. And they generally have no idea (or care) who is operating that vehicle. A semi that is unloading materials in a neighborhood has to park somewhere .. and LE is well aware of it. Does that make a case for this situation one way or another? Not that I can see. Certainly, LE could easily have ignored this "infraction" .. but once they have decided they are not going to ...

Common sense would have seen this situation resolved in 30-40 seconds.

[BusyBeingBest]

49. I'm not sure why the guy didn't provide his license

if he knew he was parked the wrong way, even in the line of work. Whether or not a delivery driver can do that, I would never ignore or argue with an officer who stopped me for a plausible reason and wanted to see my license. No reason to escalate, just give the cop your license (registration, etc.) and your explanation. That said, not sure a visit by a cop or an arrest was necessary either.

[Mariana]

64. Does the law even require him to provide his driver's license in this situation?

I don't think it does. It wasn't a traffic stop. The witnesses say the cop showed up after the driver parked the van and left it to deliver the package.

[pnwmom]

66. Which link said that?

[Midnightwalk]

72. How many times did he say he would get his license out?

Dwyer said the officer requested the delivery man's license 11 times before the confrontation appears to escalate. As the officer reaches for the man's arms, the driver thrashes away, saying he'll get his license out. The officer continues to make the arrest.

Not sure which link you followed. The full video and complete paragraph came from:
[link:https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/warren-police-recommending-felony-charges-against-amazon-driver-for-resisting-arrest-failed-to-show-id|

The cop could have and should have deescalated not escalated once he said that.

I can’t blame the driver for feeling harassed or believing it was racially motivated.

Blaming the driver without mentioning that the cop had opportunity to deescalate is telling half the story. I warn my kids about cops, but knowing they can be assholes doesn’t excuse it.

There are no consequences for cops failing to deescalate. That’s a big part of the problem.

Edit:
There is also history of accusations against Warren police. Here’s an ugly example from earlier this year.
[link:https://www.michiganradio.org/post/lawsuit-accuses-warren-cop-troubled-history-excessive-force-illegal-strip-search|]

[progressoid]

76. Yep.

A simple, "sir, you need to park on the other side of the street" would have sufficed. I see people doing worse things than this all the time and it never gets the attention this driver did.

[stopdiggin]

91. quite true. and quite possible (probable) this LE was being a dick.

But when you run into one of these guys ...
You give them your f**king license .. and live to tell about it another day.
You've won a lot of debates with LE officers?

[LanternWaste]

118. Not everyone wants to roll over and show their belly as you suggest

Some people actually possess the courage of their own convictions, while you imply and rationalize those convictions as simply 'lacking common sense'

But I get it-- your narrative on DU have been... how shall we say, most consistent in allowing benefits of doubts to one faction while denying to another.

Simply an observation. And there's always so much on DU to simply observe.

[stopdiggin]

133. don't know about benefit of the doubt

but it IS my rather firm conviction that the police WIN most of these showdowns.
No moral judgement .. just observable fact.

Hadn't equated showing my dr license to LE with "rolling over and showing their belly" .. so, yeah .. we may have a little different yardstick as regards "common sense." But, you do you ...
--- ---

[uponit7771]

83. "There are no consequences for cops failing to deescalate" +1, or doing shit else correctly

[stopdiggin]

88. not saying the cop was in the right

in fact my post says it was kinda' "fu*ked-up"
I'm saying that "failure to provide" after repeated requests and warnings led directly to the final result. Once the cop starts to reach for you to take you into custody ... That's too late!

[Midnightwalk]

112. That's an assumption I wish would change

I’m not saying I don’t or wouldn’t be acquiescent to cops. But I also am old and white and don’t have a personal enough understanding of the resentment that people of color have. People are rightfully outraged.

Your statement that “ Once the cop starts to reach for you to take you into custody ... That's too late!“ is an assumption about police behavior that should change.

We’re so used to cops not having a duty to deescalate that we reflexively assume that’s the case. I think that assumption is one of the things that needs to challenged as we see videos like this even if the victim may be safer not doing that as it occurs.

There’s a similar assumption about police committing assaults or vandalism like stabbing the tires on those parked cars. We ought to be talking about criminal cops when they do those things, not bad cops.

I usually don’t fully get language discussions, but the events of the past weeks really cemented the idea that the way we discuss police behavior is wrong and excuses what should be inexcusable.

[stopdiggin]

131. couldn't agree with you more

on virtually every point you make.

Assumptions need to change. And I suspect a lot more arguments and confrontations with the police are on the way .. I just hope we don't lose a bunch of citizens in mix. And frankly .. I'm still telling my teenagers not to argue. (whether they listen to me or not is another matter)

[dalton99a]

128. +1. White cops usually stop black men with the purpose of escalating to an arrest

or a shooting

[uponit7771]

81. fuck thug cops and those who make excuses for them, mostly white and privileged folk who don't

... have to think about LEO's escalating situations needlessly.

The LEO made the arrest after the person reached for their ID ... your post only tells half the story

[stopdiggin]

95. the driver started to comply (reach for his ID)

after the LE had started to detain him. Too late. All the previous encounter, and the ignored requests (lasting how long?) constituted "failure to provide."

Am I in LE officer's corner here? Nope. Ticky-tacky thing to be hassling somebody about (particularly somebody that's legitimately doing a job .. happens a thousand times a day, in every community). But this whole thing would have been resolved minutes and minutes ago .. with proper action taken by the Amazon driver. Present your GD license! Nobody gets arrested!

[uponit7771]

98. BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! at 1:39 into the video the kid reaches for his back pocket ... THEN ... the cop

...grabs him.

The kid reached for his back left pocket with his left hand ... BEFORE ... the cop reached around with his left had towards the kid.

Fuck that, I can see ... gas lighting is rude on its face especially seeing the context of these days events.

The cops ... DO NOT ... get the benefit of the doubt any longer.

[stopdiggin]

102. agreed

"The cops ... DO NOT ... get the benefit of the doubt any longer".

In that we are in total agreement. Nor should they (given the context of the times).

[Sapient Donkey]

144. The cop was being a dick.

Yeah, the guy probably could have avoided it by just giving into the cop being asshole, but imagine having to do that your entire life. I put the blame on the cop, because he is the one with the power in this situation. He could have gave a helpful tip to the driver that he could get a ticket if he continued parking the wrong way. Instead, he had his delicate little feels hurt because the driver responded with the same tone as he was being spoken to. At which point the cop decided to escalate the encounter for no good reason.

I would have a totally different take on this if the cop informed the driver he can't park that way, and then driver continued to park on the wrong side. Although, I may argue that is over-policing and I would rather people not be ticketed for such things. But I could be wrong on that,and there could be a very good reason why that law exists.

[stopdiggin]

145. NOT saying the cop is a good guy here

I think even the reason for the stop was a ticky-tacky "dick" move. Chip on his shoulder .. and not taking any back-talk .. all very probably true. LE everywhere should be doing better .. acting better.

In the meantime .. this young man decided to "engage" with a dick cop .. and ended up in a squad facing charges rather than the (expected) warning or parking ticket that would have resulted from presenting a driver's license. I can feel sorry for him. Tell you I think it is unfair and unjust. But I think he made the wrong decision here.

[Coventina]

28. FTP & ACAB

[LiberalArkie]

30. Odds are, they have to write at least so many tickets a day. Maybe even arrest x number of people a

day to keep the jails full.

[GentryDixon]

37. Sadly, private prisons are a big business.

[LAS14]

34. This kind of thing should get lots of MSM coverage. It does make you wonder...

.... more and more about that FBI memo about the far right's plan to infiltrate police departments.

[Hassler]

35. Looks like another department needs an overhaul.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

87. Warren, Michigan. The officer is probably following the spirit of the mayor.

https://www.michiganradio.org/post/warren-mayor-jim-fouts-under-fire-comments-could-be-re-elected

[bucolic_frolic]

43. All the major carriers stop to deliver half-on, half-off the road

Not to mention heating oil deliveries. I've even seen USPS delivery vehicles stop in the middle of the road, blocking traffic, to chat with a vehicle going in the opposite direction and hand off the day's mail.

I guess jails will be full of delivery drivers and packages will pile up

[Jeebo]

47. Something I wish would always happen in these situations...

I wish onlookers would always start asking the cops, "Would y'all treat him just as harshly if he were a WHITE guy?"

This would be a great way of calling the racist cops' attention to their own racism. Holding it up for all to see, on the spot, including the racist cops themselves. Make them aware of their own bigotry.

-- Ron

[matt819]

48. Two weeks of ongoing BLM and anti-police brutality demonstrations worldwide

And these buffoons choose to do this now?!??

This town must do what other departments are doing. Suspend, investigate, dismiss, charge. And immediately release all prior complaints and discipline taken against these officers. And every single officer in this incident must be treated as if he were the officer who committed the assault, along the lines of the getaway driver for a heist gets charged with the heist and any crimes committed during it.

And I like the idea of firing them as Amazon customers.

And, once more. Any cop fired for cause - whether or not charges are brought - must never be allowed to work as a law enforcement officer anywhere, ever. And if they are found to be working as a law enforcement officer, charges must be brought against the officer and the individual who hired him.

This will require state laws as well as some sort of overriding federal law. I don't know how this can be done, but it must be done.

One more thing. I watched the link and saw that the mayor initially called for the officer's dismissal and charges but walked it back after the police commissioner weighed in. The mayor also said the the actions of one officer should not besmirch the entire department. Maybe he is one "bad apple." I know nothing about Warren, MI. But why should we believe that it's one guy. Why shouldn't this one guy be representative of the entire department - until it's proven otherwise. The police nationwide are perfectly happy to condemn all the demonstrators because of the actions of a relatively few looters. Should work in both directions, no?

[AlexSFCA]

50. you issue a parking ticket not handcuffs

[louzke9]

54. AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE.....

Of POOR hiring decisions. These are the types of officers who get municipalities in trouble. They seem to have no ability to understand "common sense" or to make "rationale" decisions.

[LiberalArkie]

70. They are hired to make municipalities money, that is all they are for. An officer who does not make

the money is dismissed.

[Mariana]

110. It's possible the officer was a violent racist when he was hired.

However, seeing that the police department brass are supporting the officer, and pushing for felony charges for the driver, I think it's also possible that the officer was trained to be a violent racist after he was hired.

[Lokee11]

62. Asked him to get his license out -

The article states the LEO asked him to get his license out 11 times, well I did not count the times, but I know when he went to get his license out is when the LEO gets physical with him. So I suspect the only thing that would have happened if he would have "complied" with the request earlier, is he would have just been physically assaulted by the LEO sooner rather than later. This is bullshit, if you want to give him a ticket, be an asshole and give him a ticket, but don't escalate the situation, and if you ask him for his license don't be surprised and "fearing for your safety" when he goes to get it from his pocket you fuckin' idiot!!! And if you are fearing for your safety in this situation - YOU NEED TO GET A DIFFERENT FUCKING JOB, ASSHOLE - THIS ONE IS NOT FOR YOU!!

Give me a fucking break, he is there in an Amazon truck, and just delivered a fucking package, I mean what is the LEO thinking? That it was all part of his brilliant fucking plan, to one day become an employee for Amazon, so he could deliver packages while parking illegally, and his dream could come true and he could finally assault and injure an officer?!?!?!?!?

I know some police, have a couple in the family, I tell them all the time, "Your Co-Workers SUCK!" and I also tell them that if they or other officers are so jumpy that they fear for their safety like a paranoid schizophrenic when people do things like - reach for their license, they need to get the fuck out of that area of employment and go get a job with preferably no social interaction!

Sorry for the redundancy above - I wish I could say Unbelievable, but it is not, sadly it is easily believable and has been common practice for a long time now. Until there is Accountability, System-Wide Accountability - this will not change!

FDT

[Hortensis]

67. Thank goodness we haven't had any actual murderous police riots,

like the 4 kids dead and 9 wounded at Kent State in 1970. These incidents all make me worry that it could come to that. The murderers were National Guard, but a lot of armed men are all worked up and need to be netted and taken down themselves.

Btw, those too young to remember might look up the Chicago police riots during the Democratic National Convention. Hard as it may be to believe, their behaviors really were much worse than any group behavior we've seen so far. The police became the rioters.

[C Moon]

68. It's almost sounding like some of the cops are now under orders to keep the cops vs. blacks alive.

Almost everyday, another video comes out.
More likely, I guess it was always happening, but it wasn't getting the attention it is now.

[LAS14]

75. Check out reply #15. nt

[C Moon]

90. Thank you!

[Bayard]

71. Jeezly Pete! Felony charges?!

"Police Commissioner Bill Dwyer said during a Wednesday press conference that he was recommending felony charges of resisting arrest, failure to obey a lawful command, and failure to provide a driver's license."

I have UPS stop in the middle of our little 1 1/2 lane country road all the time. Of course, I've never seen a black driver....

[Evolve Dammit]

73. We have a problem Houston (Warren, MI). This is insane.

[uponit7771]

77. +1, they feel they don't have to

[erronis]

80. Apparently many police departments can only hire the worst, and choose to.

That's the only way these RW white thugs could get hired.

And the PDs don't share (or care to look at) complaint records from prior employment. Strange world where most people have extensive background checks for sensitive jobs and the police get to slide through on some copped grease.

Unions can be a force for good, but apparently that isn't what's happening with the police unions.

[albacore]

85. Warren Michigan was a "sundown" town....

Blacks were not supposed to let the sun go down on them in Warren. Now, Warren is 17% black, largely as a result of black Americans fleeing neighboring Detroit.
There is friction about that...

http://oaklandcounty115.com/2015/05/29/guest-view-sundown-towns-inspires-thoughts-on-keep-out-signs-people-share/

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

86. It's time to put an end to this kind of shit.

[MichMan]

89. I hope Mayor Fouts steps up and apologizes

[cab67]

93. I'm willing to bet....

....that anything these officers order from Amazon will somehow not make it to their addresses.

[usaf-vet]

97. Really i would say the are F***ing wth the wrong employer. Jeff Bezos could buy the entire town

with pocket change. Fire every city employee and replace them. He could easily start by suing the town into bankruptcy.

But I guess he should start closer to the problem. Go after the two OVER ZEALOUS thugs. Use the same rationale of why arrest the driver because he parked on the wrong side. Seriously who hasn't seen a UPS, US Mail, SpeedBee, FedEx, and others park for quick delivery.

Make the cop's lives less convenient. Use EVERY LEGAL move possible just because he can afford to. Just because he can.

Buy the houses next door and file for variances to expand remodel, change the zoning to farming or industrial, put the house up for sale at way below market value to depress their property value. Keep them in court until they say, uncle. Or pack up and move.

Bezo's carries BIGGER WEAPONS than they do. LAWYERS.... whole firms of lawyers.

[Hekate]

100. Bonus: the young man's name is now in "the system"

Police culture has no intention of being reformed, and they are going to go down fighting like rabid dogs.

[Locrian]

103. Confessions of a Former Bastard Cop

https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

If you’re tempted to feel sympathy for me, don’t. I used to happily hassle the homeless under other circumstances. I researched obscure penal codes so I could arrest people in homeless encampments for lesser known crimes like “remaining too close to railroad property” (369i of the California Penal Code). I used to call it “planting warrant seeds” since I knew they wouldn’t make their court dates and we could arrest them again and again for warrant violations.

We used to have informal contests for who could cite or arrest someone for the weirdest law. DUI on a bicycle, non-regulation number of brooms on your tow truck (27700(a)(1) of the California Vehicle Code)… shit like that. For me, police work was a logic puzzle for arresting people, regardless of their actual threat to the community. As ashamed as I am to admit it, it needs to be said: stripping people of their freedom felt like a game to me for many years.

[Mariana]

111. Yes, they are taught to be this way.

It's part of their training, they are instructed and encouraged to behave like this.

[ornotna]

105. Thank goodness there wasn't a 20 dollar bill involved

These cops have lost their minds.

[Politicub]

107. Now do you understand why we must defund, disband and rebuild policing?

Nibbling around the edges won’t yield justice and the changes we need to see.

The profession needs to be reimagined and modernized so we have a more equitable society.

And, our prison system needs to be abolished, reformed and rebuilt, too. There is no reason why we should have more than two million Americans locked behind bars.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

108. Hey white people: STOP BEING STUNNED.

[Cha]

113. Do people usually get taken down for parking the wrong way?

NO. But doing it while Black?

[warmfeet]

121. Ban the police from all human interaction.

Ostracize them. True libertarians can make it on their own. Let's see if they are true to their ideals.

[SunSeeker]

126. No, just the opposite. But we do need to ban racist assholes from law enforcement. nt

[LudwigPastorius]

122. Oink!

[SunSeeker]

123. K & R for exposure.

[oasis]

132. Felony?

If ever there was a case for jury nullification.

[brewens]

137. I drove commercially for years, but always route or construction jobs. It's like an unwritten law

around here that the cops look the other way on stuff like that. I had a commercial hydroseeder parked the wrong way on a one way street one day and cop stopped and gave me crap about it. I kind of know the guy and told him I didn't come through the do not enter sign, I backed all the way around the block! He laughed his ass off and took off. I had to be facing that way because our hose reels were on that side. He would have accepted the real excuse too.

But that's a 40ish white guy in Idaho with a white cop. Unfortuantely a totally different situation.

[disndat]

138. Jeff Bezos should sue the Warren Police Dept.

for all they are worth. There are plenty of witnesses to attest for Bozos.

[MissMillie]

140. "License and registration, please."

"You parked the wrong way... here's a ticket."




(That wasn't so difficult.)

[Nitram]

141. Cops are doubling down in response to protests. They only know one way to do things.