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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:53 PM Jun 2020

Tucker loses Disney

Last edited Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:57 AM - Edit history (1)

@JuddLegum
UPDATE: This morning, I reported that @Disney was still advertising on Tucker Carlson, who is using his platform to trash the Black Lives Matter movement

A few minutes ago, Disney told me it will no longer run ads on the program

UPDATE (6/10): Disney tells Popular Information that it will no longer advertise on Tucker Carlson. The company says the ads were placed through a third party ad buyer and the company was not previously aware they were running during the show. Disney says it has instructed the third party to stop placing ads on Tucker Carlson moving forward.

https://popular.info/p/five-corporations-that-say-they-support


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UPDATED:
Fucker Carlson keeps repeating his own dumb history. The Fox News host again is losing advertisers after saying racist stuff.

Disney, T-Mobile, SmileDirectClub, Papa John’s and Vari have pulled their commercials from “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” Media Matters reported Wednesday.

The exodus came after Carlson on Monday warned viewers of his popular show on the conservative cable network that Black Lives Matters protests sparked by the police killing of George Floyd were “not about Black lives, and remember that when they come for you.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-loses-advertisers-george-floyd_n_5ee1f748c5b67cba495cbe2e
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Tucker loses Disney (Original Post) kpete Jun 2020 OP
Disney doesn't know exactly where their ads are running?? BULLSHIT........... Bengus81 Jun 2020 #1
Not unusual. That's why you hire an ad agency. Phoenix61 Jun 2020 #2
May have been part of a package deal too .. and some lame-ass ad agency account executive Auggie Jun 2020 #7
yes indeed! Pressure on various companies to remove ads from Rush's show yellowdogintexas Jun 2020 #19
Most major companies leave ad placements to middlemen. Coventina Jun 2020 #15
Thanks for the tip! I could use a few $$$ lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #34
That's actually pretty common for big companies manhattan123 Jun 2020 #26
Yep. That's how you get MAGA ads hyping trump - airing on MSNBC. calimary Jun 2020 #28
A lot of time the ads aren't actually airing on the network but just the local cable system manhattan123 Jun 2020 #30
And there are also First Amendment issues about refusing or censoring political ads SCantiGOP Jun 2020 #35
You can bet someone at Disney knew and is sweating bullets today. marble falls Jun 2020 #36
omfg Disney, Carlson is one of the most openly racist bastards outside of Trump. He hates black folk uponit7771 Jun 2020 #3
Which is why we MUST boycott any company that advertises on Fox. LaMouffette Jun 2020 #4
Some of these are from last year, so some companies may have dropped them by now. Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #8
Thank you, Lonestarblue! LaMouffette Jun 2020 #32
Fox news also makes a good chunk of its money from the licensing cstanleytech Jun 2020 #24
Hmm . . . so maybe we need to target the cable companies! LaMouffette Jun 2020 #33
"the company was not previously aware" bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #5
Sometimes it's just too hard to do the work your job title implies. jaxexpat Jun 2020 #6
The fact is, a lot of broadcast advertising is sold this way, as packages, by third party services. Progressive Jones Jun 2020 #13
Outsourcing decisions bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #14
Well yeah, GOOD corporate stewardship... nt Progressive Jones Jun 2020 #16
Advertising is a weird industry, with many different entities involved. Coventina Jun 2020 #18
And the others zak247 Jun 2020 #9
Gee.. just 'cause Tucker's a Racist Piece of Shit?! Cha Jun 2020 #10
The usual pattern is to run away while the light's shining on their choices maxsolomon Jun 2020 #11
I'm up for a boycott of any company that advertises on his wretched show Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #12
Trump family enterprises can take over the ad spaces. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #17
Another one bites the dust Miigwech Jun 2020 #20
Drain the fake-media swamp. I don't care how. Withdrawing $ from ads seems to help send a message. Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #21
Elmo's dad is coming for you next Trump... hunter Jun 2020 #22
The asshole, erm, I mean tucker, is a pile of steaming horsecrap. warmfeet Jun 2020 #23
Indeed, horse crap can serve a useful purpose Wednesdays Jun 2020 #27
Hah! Nice going, Cuck! smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #25
You had me after Tucker Loses npk Jun 2020 #29
Disney Was Advertising To Tucker Carlson's Audience? smb Jun 2020 #31
k&r! DesertRat Jun 2020 #37

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
1. Disney doesn't know exactly where their ads are running?? BULLSHIT...........
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jun 2020

Spending millions of $$$ on TV ads and then oh hey...just place em....somewhere!!

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
2. Not unusual. That's why you hire an ad agency.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jun 2020

This came out right after Stoneman-Douglas. If it’s a cool company it does what Disney did, told their agency to not place ads on that show.

Auggie

(31,169 posts)
7. May have been part of a package deal too .. and some lame-ass ad agency account executive
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 06:16 PM
Jun 2020

never put two and two together. Could be a lame-ass ad manger on the Disney side too.

I've experienced it first hand. The level of marketing competency is continually spiraling downward.

yellowdogintexas

(22,252 posts)
19. yes indeed! Pressure on various companies to remove ads from Rush's show
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jun 2020

revealed the whole third party ad blocks. Many of those companies asked to have their ads pulled.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
15. Most major companies leave ad placements to middlemen.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jun 2020

I know it doesn't make sense, but that's how advertising works these days.

You can experiment with it yourself:

Set up a "news website" and in no time you'll be getting ad revenue from these companies that are paid by corporations to place their ads.

manhattan123

(302 posts)
26. That's actually pretty common for big companies
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jun 2020

Especially ones that have a lot of constantly changing products (in this case, movies).

They have an ad agency and media buyers who look at the demos and place the buys. Frankly, I'm not sure what demo Tucker Carlson has that would be interested in Disney movies?

Also, especially with cable TV, they buy in bulk with a cable provider, Comcast, Spectrum, Fios, etc.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
28. Yep. That's how you get MAGA ads hyping trump - airing on MSNBC.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:06 PM
Jun 2020

I sent an email this morning, complaining about it.

email@mail.msnbc.com
rachel@msnbc.com
maddow@msnbc.com

manhattan123

(302 posts)
30. A lot of time the ads aren't actually airing on the network but just the local cable system
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:14 PM
Jun 2020

Just as with regular broadcast TV, some of the ads you see during a show are running on the entire, say, CBS network, but some are sold by and running only on your local CBS station, which is given a certain amount of time each hour. That's how they make their money.

The cable systems do the same. Some ads are bought and air nationally on MSNBC, but some ad time is set aside for the local cable providers to sell, and are only running in that market.

MSNBC doesn't even know, and has no control over the ads sold locally. Unless it violates a decency clause, they can't stop the local provider from selling to the Trump campaign.

SCantiGOP

(13,870 posts)
35. And there are also First Amendment issues about refusing or censoring political ads
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jun 2020

While cable networks are private entities, they also have most of the same "use of public airways" rules that traditional broadcasters have.
And I don't think we should be scared to see trump ads showing up on our screens.

LaMouffette

(2,030 posts)
4. Which is why we MUST boycott any company that advertises on Fox.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jun 2020

And do it publicly, write letters to their advertisers, make phone calls to them, protest in front of their company buildings, make it news, and make it leave a mark!

If I recall, boycotts were instrumental in ending apartheid in South Africa. Maybe it would work to defund Fox. Here's an LA Times article on successful and not-so-successful boycotts:

[link:https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-boycotts-history-20180228-htmlstory.html|

Does anyone have a list of Fox advertisers? I couldn't find one when I googled it. I would hate to have to compile a list by (shudder) actually watching Fox, but I will if I have to.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
8. Some of these are from last year, so some companies may have dropped them by now.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020

From Media Matters (July 2019)— https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/these-are-fox-news-leading-advertisers

Here’s another one. http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news-sponsors/fox-sponsors-a-l/

This site lists Sean Hannity advertisers (also from July 2019)— https://www.mediamatters.org/sean-hannity/these-are-sean-hannitys-leading-advertisers

I’m attaching an article from Hollywood Reporter listing some top advertisers. “Representatives for Nutrisystem, the network's top 2020 advertiser, Liberty Mutual Insurance, Nugenix, Sandals Resorts, Sleep Number, GEICO, Intuit, NewDay USA, Norton, Progressive, DealDash and Allstate did not respond.” https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fox-news-top-advertisers-silent-coronavirus-coverage-1287839

This article is a good cross reference (also from 2019) because it lists companies that pulled advertising from Tucker Carlson in 2019, so no need to contact them.

Have fun!

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
24. Fox news also makes a good chunk of its money from the licensing
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jun 2020

fees it charges the cable companies I heard.
If I recall it adds something like 2 to 3 dollars to everyone's cable bill where as the other news stations only add a dollar or so.

LaMouffette

(2,030 posts)
33. Hmm . . . so maybe we need to target the cable companies!
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jun 2020

If we could drive Fox News off the air, it would still exist on the internet. But I bet that much of its audience over 50 years old would not bother going online to watch it.

Hmm . . . !

Thanks, cstanleytech!

bucolic_frolic

(43,162 posts)
5. "the company was not previously aware"
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jun 2020

Are all those highly paid execs exercising strict oversight how they spend shareholder's - the owners' - money?

Did they really just admit that?

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
13. The fact is, a lot of broadcast advertising is sold this way, as packages, by third party services.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 06:35 PM
Jun 2020

Did Disney know about their spots on Carlson's show? I doubt that it was a great corporate concern. I would think, though, that there is at least one person from Marketing who has the job of watching over Marketing's ad budget, to see where it's paying off, or not.

bucolic_frolic

(43,162 posts)
14. Outsourcing decisions
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 06:44 PM
Jun 2020

I just don't know. To me it seems a lot like phoning it in so to speak. I suppose you trust the company that manages ad portfolios just like you pick and trust an investment manager. There is often a bit more to corporate stewardship, though, than the bottom line. Image, bedfellows, timing, strategic planning, etc.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
18. Advertising is a weird industry, with many different entities involved.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jun 2020

Ad placement is almost never decided by high-level people at the particular company, anymore.

There are "people" for that, and more often than not, they are contracted by the company, and not actually company employees.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
11. The usual pattern is to run away while the light's shining on their choices
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 06:26 PM
Jun 2020

and then come back later when everyone's looking elsewhere.

A sale is a sale; can't let those eyeballs go.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
17. Trump family enterprises can take over the ad spaces.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jun 2020

Trump family enterprises can take over the ad spaces.

Fox might even give them a discount.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
23. The asshole, erm, I mean tucker, is a pile of steaming horsecrap.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 07:49 PM
Jun 2020

I support horse crap, much more than tucker.

npk

(3,660 posts)
29. You had me after Tucker Loses
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:10 PM
Jun 2020

This dipshit cannot be removed fast enough from the airwaves. He really thinks highly of himself too doesn't he.

smb

(3,471 posts)
31. Disney Was Advertising To Tucker Carlson's Audience?
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:09 AM
Jun 2020

Whatever for? Were they perhaps planning to release Song of the South?

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