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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 02:59 PM Jun 2020

About Bolton's book... Did you notice Bolton says

there was "Trump misconduct with other countries,"?

In "The Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir," Bolton will go beyond Ukraine, and argue there was "Trump misconduct with other countries," the source said.

https://www.axios.com/john-bolton-book-trump-misconduct-794e8e01-18a3-44ae-ae35-1ee2c4fddad4.html


That's the "boom!"

And yeah, fuck Bolton for not testifying, but I do think this is important.

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About Bolton's book... Did you notice Bolton says (Original Post) MelissaB Jun 2020 OP
Yeah, the same type of conduct the repug senators said was okay. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #1
I hope someone puts this book on line so we can read it for free, efhmc Jun 2020 #2
Great idea. Or people could just post it here or on Twitter. Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #4
Please not on twitter, my browser won't go there anymore. I do not know why. katmondoo Jun 2020 #8
Well good shit from Twitter always ends up over here anyway. I'm sure it will Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #22
That would be a copyright violation and theft of intellectual property, I believe. I suggest... Hekate Jun 2020 #7
i'm sure there will be plenty of excerpts, reviews, barbtries Jun 2020 #9
You are correct - MyOwnPeace Jun 2020 #23
You won't have to misanthrope Jun 2020 #32
Meh. The Relevant Parts Will Be Covered In News/Commentary Shows nt smb Jun 2020 #34
ReTHUGs would still have let him get away malaise Jun 2020 #3
we'll never know though. barbtries Jun 2020 #6
True malaise Jun 2020 #10
i hope it does. barbtries Jun 2020 #14
too fucking late. barbtries Jun 2020 #5
Agree totally! Catherine Vincent Jun 2020 #20
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2020 #11
I will not give him one penny or read this book Bev54 Jun 2020 #12
Good call there, Bev! MyOwnPeace Jun 2020 #24
Really. I'm not buying it, but if there is an alternate way to read some of it. Yes. Captain Zero Jun 2020 #29
"Bombshell memoir! Man abducted by aliens reveals man, who thinks he's Napoleon, actually isn't" struggle4progress Jun 2020 #13
"Trump misconduct with other countries" - Any source will do. I hope justice prevails. nt AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2020 #15
Countries extant, or countries defunct? bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #16
he probably wanted to keep mystery to prop up book sales AlexSFCA Jun 2020 #17
Bet it was SA, Qatar or all the Arab gulf states. He demanded kickbacks to him and his family... machoneman Jun 2020 #18
That's why they need to go after LuvNewcastle Jun 2020 #25
since we whitewashed the "misconduct" stopdiggin Jun 2020 #19
Book sales not going to go like he thought FloridaBlues Jun 2020 #21
Had Bolton released his book too early people would have become 42bambi Jun 2020 #26
That could very well be. Right before election is best timing he will have now. Unless. Captain Zero Jun 2020 #30
Rather than just making more money, he may have thought this could protect the Republican politician karynnj Jun 2020 #27
He missed his chance. Nobody cares at this point. Unless the walrus wants to whistle-blow? Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #28
Brave Sir Bolton ran away JHB Jun 2020 #31
oh like he is one to fucking talk Skittles Jun 2020 #33

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
2. I hope someone puts this book on line so we can read it for free,
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:01 PM
Jun 2020

And he makes little or no profit.

Maraya1969

(22,495 posts)
22. Well good shit from Twitter always ends up over here anyway. I'm sure it will
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 04:10 PM
Jun 2020

be posted all over the place. Anything to keep that jerk from selling books.

Hekate

(90,779 posts)
7. That would be a copyright violation and theft of intellectual property, I believe. I suggest...
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jun 2020

...getting on the list at your public library. They will have it in hard copy and as an e-book, but the list to check it out will likely be long, so get a head start.

Bonus: public libraries really need the patronage to stay open.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
9. i'm sure there will be plenty of excerpts, reviews,
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jun 2020

and discussions. no way am i reading this book. I actually tried reading Rick Wilson's book but within pages he was slamming Hillary and Democrats so I decided against it.

Isn't it Bolton who's been all for nuking Iran all along? The same guy who threw a xenophobic fit at the UN?

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
23. You are correct -
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 04:23 PM
Jun 2020

he was a MAJOR War Hawk (poor pun there - "Major" ) and was in the "vocal back-up group" for that hit tune "Bomb, bomb, bomb - bomb, bomb Iran!

Right now his picture can be found in Google when you look up: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
6. we'll never know though.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jun 2020

maybe it would have been enough. Bolton has fans in the Republican Party. But he was a greedy coward, so we'll never know.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
14. i hope it does.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jun 2020

the negatives on trump are so huge. there's still going to be 30 to 35% of voters who will vote for him and will refuse to believe that he ever did anything wrong in his life. go figure.

this is almost old news really - death toll over 116,000 today in the US. Black Lives Matter and trump doesn't think so. he should go down in flames. people need to vote, everyone just has to vote!

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
5. too fucking late.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jun 2020

Bolton will go down in history for his failure to stand up for the country when it needed him badly.

Bev54

(10,067 posts)
12. I will not give him one penny or read this book
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jun 2020

even through a library. I will listen to the pundits who will excitedly give us the dirt. I hate Bolton for refusing to testify and perhaps make a difference of changing minds on Trump and forcing the senate to hear what they did not want to hear. He is now criticizing the dems for not having more charges in the impeachment? How fucking rich is that. He could have provided them with information so they could put more charges in. Fuck him!

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
29. Really. I'm not buying it, but if there is an alternate way to read some of it. Yes.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jun 2020

He couldn't show up to testify. Screw him. and his book money.
Might be possible to share audio book copies.
Sometimes audio book club members get a copy to share with a friend.
I 'doubt' there is a way to hack an audio book file.
'Probably' just not possible, huh?

bucolic_frolic

(43,261 posts)
16. Countries extant, or countries defunct?
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jun 2020

Bet you did Nazi that question coming.

John Barron could reach back into history and think a claim to Metternich's treaties.

You just never know what dat geyser is doing.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
17. he probably wanted to keep mystery to prop up book sales
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jun 2020

once the book is releases, he may testify as part of publicity tour.

machoneman

(4,010 posts)
18. Bet it was SA, Qatar or all the Arab gulf states. He demanded kickbacks to him and his family...
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jun 2020

for any and all things, mainly military weapons I bet.

Btw, this falls under teh category of catch me if you can. He's banking on the real fact that even if charged, it would take years after an indictment for appeals, more appeals, motions to dismiss (as the foreign countries would not fess up unless President Biden threatens to cease all arms shipments, SC appeals and finally, a real trial.

But, wait! Now his lawyers would embark on a long series of motions saying he could not get a fair trial in D.C. S, it's moved to say, NYS. Oh, no, more unfair trial crap.

See, he'll be dead before he'd ever get sentenced for this one. He might get jailed far earlier for other (and many) offenses and criminal stuff, but on this kickback issue, it would take a long time to nail his big fat azz!

LuvNewcastle

(16,855 posts)
25. That's why they need to go after
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 04:30 PM
Jun 2020

the family too. They’ve all gotten their share of corn out of that trough, and they will be around a lot longer. Make the whole lot of them emigrate to Russia!

stopdiggin

(11,356 posts)
19. since we whitewashed the "misconduct"
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 04:01 PM
Jun 2020

(cute euphemism) that has already been clearly illustrated ...? I should be waiting on Mr. Bolton for .. what?

Mr. Bolton has always and ever had his own agenda ...
I'd be very wary of any Bolton "spin" on truth .. or even factual detail.
But .. you're free to choose.
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FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
21. Book sales not going to go like he thought
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 04:04 PM
Jun 2020

Yes too little too late. Coward for not testifying when asked.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
26. Had Bolton released his book too early people would have become
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 04:47 PM
Jun 2020

bored with it, so my thinking is, timing is everything. All new and nasty info on Dirty Donnie. Fingers crossed!

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
30. That could very well be. Right before election is best timing he will have now. Unless.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 05:39 PM
Jun 2020

He is waiting for the day after and Trump is defeated.
There might be stuff in it that's secure if Trump is in office?

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
27. Rather than just making more money, he may have thought this could protect the Republican politician
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jun 2020

Think back to when the Senate was trying Trump. Even if Bolton testified and spoke of misconduct with other countries, do you think that:

1) at that point it would have impacted his support in a country where knowledge of foreign policy is abysmal?
2) If his support was where it was, do you think more of the Republican senators would have voted to impeach. Ie other than Romney?

So, Bolton had the ability to control the time and what he wants to say. At this point, if he thinks no matter what he does, Trump will lose, he very likely will not be most concerned with how it makes Trump look. He has a very strong ideological neo con foreign policy belief. He also was strongly against Russia. The foreign policy of Trump has been an unmitigated disaster for his agenda as well as the world in a different way! He might actually prefer Biden, with whom he would have big differences.

Even more, had he disclosed even more misconduct, it would reflect even worse on the Senators who voted to not remove.

Evolve Dammit

(16,760 posts)
28. He missed his chance. Nobody cares at this point. Unless the walrus wants to whistle-blow?
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jun 2020

Like for real this time? Maybe he has a soul and a conscience? I sincerely doubt it.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
31. Brave Sir Bolton ran away
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jun 2020

Brave Sir Bolton ran away
Bravely ran away, away
When danger reared it's ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled
Yes, brave Sir Bolton turned about
And gallantly he chickened out
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the brave, Sir Bolton

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