With the cases of COVID19 rising in almost every state

[turbinetree]

do you think that just maybe with some common sense that its time to close back down the state and get this virus under some sort of control...............this is just insane.........it is not working....................WTF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[customerserviceguy]

1. As tests roll out

I expect the number of cases to rise. The numbers that are more telling to me are the hospitalizations and the deaths.

[uponit7771]

2. Hospitalization is nationally arising also sans New York. Any states that continue to include

... the overly skewing population of New York is subject

on a local basis California Texas and Florida hospital locations are going up in their cases are skyrocketing

New York times is keeping a 2 week average rolling on the county level

We're screwed if this continues until the end of July

[ProfessorGAC]

3. Illinois Bed Usage Is Down

I just looked at IDPH.
Cases are flat, but hospitalizations, ICU occupancy, and deaths are flat at worst. This is 3 weeks after phase 3 began.
It's not great but better than when things were skyrocketing and hasn't gotten measurable worse in the last 3 weeks.
That said, I have concerns about the too rapid drop in mask compliance.
My estimates are that end of April 95% of people in stores wore them.
Now, it's around 2 in 3.

[Initech]

4. Lockdowns didn't work, reopenings didn't work. Herd immunity won't work. What will?

[FreeState]

5. Lockdowns do work

We didn't do them uniformly or appropriately. Look at Hong King, Singapore, New Zealand etc. they work when done on a national level with strict observance of the rules.

[Initech]

6. Except... this is America.

And half of this country won't listen to the other half. If that had happened the lockdowns could have worked. Instead we're in a mess far beyond our control because of petty politics. I think the vaccine is really the only way out of this.

[FreeState]

8. I think we need to find another way

I fear a vaccine won't be coming anytime soon (maybe in a few years).

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15742624/

Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) emerged in China and spread globally as a human pandemic. It is caused by a new coronavirus (CoV) of suspect animal origin. The emergence of SARS stunned medical scientists, but veterinary virologists had previously recognized CoVs as causing fatal respiratory or enteric disease in animals with interspecies transmission and wildlife reservoirs. Because of its public health impact, major efforts are focused on development of SARS vaccines. Occurrence of CoV disease at mucosal surfaces necessitates the stimulation of local immunity, having an impact on the vaccine type, delivery and adjuvant needed to achieve mucosal immunity. Such immunity is often short-lived, requires frequent boosting and may not prevent re-infection, all factors complicating CoV vaccine design. SARS vaccine efforts should be enhanced by understanding the correlates of protection and reasons for the success or failure of animal CoV vaccines. This review will focus on studies of immunity and protection in swine to the enteric CoV, transmissible gastroenteritis (TGEV) versus the respiratory variant, porcine respiratory CoV (PRCV), comparing live, inactivated and subunit vaccines, various vaccine vectors, routes and adjuvants. In addition avian infectious bronchitis CoV (IBV) vaccines targeted for protection of the upper respiratory tract of chickens are discussed. Unfortunately, despite long-term efforts, effective vaccines to prevent enteric CoV infections remain elusive, and generally live, but not killed vaccines, have induced the most consistent protection against animal CoVs. Confirmation of the pathogenesis of SARS in humans or animals models that mimic SARS may further aid in vaccine design and evaluation.

[customerserviceguy]

9. About all I can think of

is a vaccine. Even when there is a good one, as proven by testing, with enough supply, it will take a monumental effort to convince enough people to get it.

[Brainfodder]

7. And harm rich people getting richer?

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR NICE MIND?



Capitalism is being harmed, they must re-open!

People gotta pay the bills!

All the excuses.....