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madaboutharry

(40,223 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:17 PM Jun 2020

Did Joyce Vance just give the opinion that there may not be charges in the Brooks case?

I thought I heard her say that she thought the prosecutor could state that it was an appropriate use of force.
My heart sank.

Did I hear her correctly?

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Did Joyce Vance just give the opinion that there may not be charges in the Brooks case? (Original Post) madaboutharry Jun 2020 OP
I did not hear her speak, but I would not be surprised. I think it would be difficult to get 33taw Jun 2020 #1
I do too. fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #9
I agree. The cop could have just let him flee and put out a warrant. The whole thing is stupid. 33taw Jun 2020 #15
Me too. CNN just had an someone on from an Association representing Black Hoyt Jun 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Neerav B. Trivedi Jun 2020 #2
I mean it would be consistent qazplm135 Jun 2020 #3
So you can claim you are afraid while someone is running away from you? lettucebe Jun 2020 #4
I've heard it from several on tv. How in the hell do you shoot someone in the back and get away onecaliberal Jun 2020 #5
HYPOCRITES! sfstaxprep Jun 2020 #8
This was the explanation. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #14
They are bringing up the point that he had a taser and he could have tased the officer and redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #6
DA said the taser could only shoot twice and was inoperable by the time the officer shot Brooks wishstar Jun 2020 #17
I heard it as one option. GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2020 #7
She said don't be surprised if there were no charges StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #16
That's what she said StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Jun 2020 #11
This just came out. I think there'll be charges octoberlib Jun 2020 #12
Looks like they wanted to make sure he'd die Hav Jun 2020 #18
The defense will say they wanted to ensure he was no longer a threat to Hoyt Jun 2020 #20
I saw that including a picture of the kick peggysue2 Jun 2020 #21
She was wrong n/t malaise Jun 2020 #13

33taw

(2,448 posts)
1. I did not hear her speak, but I would not be surprised. I think it would be difficult to get
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jun 2020

a conviction in this case.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts)
9. I do too.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jun 2020

CNN had an expert guest on yesterday and last night who walked through the entire incident. I don't remember his name. He thinks a conviction is unlikely, and to be honest, when I heard his explanation, I had to agree with him.

To be sure, if the intoxicated driver was white, HE WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY.

And I will always think the cop shot Brooks in the back because he was pissed off that Brooks got the better of him, grabbed his taser, and was able to get away. Regardless, if Brooks was not black, he would have survived.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Me too. CNN just had an someone on from an Association representing Black
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 10:51 PM
Jun 2020

police officers. He said that he thinks the Atlanta police manual and training conflicts with Georgia law in these cases.

I do not think it was necessary to shoot. But I think some, perhaps a number of, jurors will have some reasonable doubt how they might react in that case with a few seconds to make a decision, etc.

I don’t think the Atlanta case is anywhere near comparable to the George Floyd case.

Fortunately, I think all of this will result in better law enforcement.

Response to madaboutharry (Original post)

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
3. I mean it would be consistent
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jun 2020

with how the vast majority of these cases have been handled.

Charging them would be a change from historical practice.

Let's see if this DA has evolved or not.

onecaliberal

(32,900 posts)
5. I've heard it from several on tv. How in the hell do you shoot someone in the back and get away
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jun 2020

with it. What I've heard is because he had a discharged taser in his hand that he was carrying a deadly weapon.

This world is completely fucked.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
8. HYPOCRITES!
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jun 2020

FOREVER, Pigs have been saying that Tasers are not in any way shape or form, a deadly weapon.

Whatever BS explanation works at the time is their motto.

onecaliberal

(32,900 posts)
14. This was the explanation.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jun 2020

It’s not she. Cops have it because they have been trained and know where to aim it? Sounds like complete bullshit.

Im so happy to have been wrong about the officer being charged.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. They are bringing up the point that he had a taser and he could have tased the officer and
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jun 2020

taken his weapon. Seems really nuts to me, I don't think they were in any danger from a drunken man with a taser do you?

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
17. DA said the taser could only shoot twice and was inoperable by the time the officer shot Brooks
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jun 2020

DA said that the officer knew the taser could not be a threat after Brooks fired the taser in the air, so officer did not shoot in self-defense because by that point Brooks was running away and taser could not be fired again.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
16. She said don't be surprised if there were no charges
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:15 PM
Jun 2020

I was shocked when she said it and hoped she was wrong.

Fortunately, she was.

Response to madaboutharry (Original post)

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
12. This just came out. I think there'll be charges
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jun 2020




Wow, Fulton County DA says one officer in the Rayshard Brooks case kicked him after he was shot. The other officer stood on his shoulders. This officer has now become a states witness and admitted to standing on Brooks.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
18. Looks like they wanted to make sure he'd die
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:47 PM
Jun 2020

Putting in a couple more rounds might have been a bit too suspicious at that point but it seems clear they wanted him dead. That behavior in general also shows that they have no regard for human life. There are no mental barriers for them and they'll happily murder again when given the chance.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
20. The defense will say they wanted to ensure he was no longer a threat to
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 11:33 PM
Jun 2020

them, as part of their defense that they considered him a threat to them and others, after being attacked.

All defense needs is a little doubt from one juror.

peggysue2

(10,842 posts)
21. I saw that including a picture of the kick
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 01:26 AM
Jun 2020

The officer really got into it, used his whole body, the way you would on a football field.

It was disgusting.

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