Huntsman is too good for the Republican Party

[nobodyspecial]

Not that I support him in any way, but he sounds intelligent and doesn't pander. No wonder why they don't like him.

[still_one]

1. He is the only one who isn't nuts up there /nt

[Aerows]

3. That's why they don't like him

They want someone that is a religious nutjob.

[still_one]

4. Which hopefully gives us a better chance /nt

[Aerows]

10. I hope so

I'm not thrilled with everything Obama has done, but the idea of one of these whackjobs having their finger on the button as President scares the hell out of me.

[Armin-A]

32. there are third party options as well

[nobodyspecial]

34. What third party option is going to win?

We have two major parties and voting third party just lets the GOP win. Until the system is changed, this just isn't viable on the national level. And the stakes are too high to make a statement or send a message.

[Armin-A]

35. None, but when will the stakes not be too high?

When is it time? When will all of this happen? The way I see it is Americans have become more and more black and white with the republican/democratic party.

I am voting for Obama in November, but I don't see a shift happening any time soon as long as money controls government.

[nobodyspecial]

36. What I find odd is that you found this thread from Saturday

and resurrected it to talk about voting third party. What's up with that?

[Armin-A]

37. Haha sorry...

I did not realize it was from Saturday! I was just on general discussion and clicked on last reply to sort through topics. I wasn't try to do any promoting of a 3rd party candidate or anything just wanted to chime.

[Pacafishmate]

2. He's been to other countries and he speaks Chinese.

That probably makes him an America hater in republican circles.

[FarPoint]

29. Make that mandarin chinese at that...

A most difficult language I heard,...Well, you know, he's the one I have always feared.

[virgogal]

5. The Boston Globe endorsed him.

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-06/bostonglobe/30598700_1_romney-and-jon-huntsman-gop-candidates-health-care-reform

[RZM]

6. He's ok I guess

I have respect for the man.

But let's not get carried away here. If Huntsman were a Democrat and thus compared to Democrats instead of Republicans, he'd be about as popular around here as Joe Lieberman.

[nobodyspecial]

7. I stated right up front that I don't support him or his views

so I'm not getting carried away. My only point is, as others have stated, he sounds sane and rational. The only field I included for making the assessment was Republicans.

[RZM]

20. I believe you

I don't think we disagree here. You said yourself that you're judging him against Republicans. In that scenario, I agree with you. If I were a Republican, I'd probably be supporting him the primaries.

My point was that if he were a Democrat, he would actually be less popular around here than he is as Republican.

But I agree with you in spirit. He's the best the a Democrat could hope for in that field. That also means he's going to be about as relevant in this election cycle as Mike Gravel was in 2008.

[TheKentuckian]

38. He's a Republican, he isn't a fuckwit and he isn't a teabagger

so that is the new moderate and folks pretend he is decent.

It is probably easy to over speak when you are under the impression that Bob Dole is left of center.

[madrchsod]

8. the republicans have no use for him so....

i think huntsman should join the democratic party. i always thought huntsman would have given obama a real challenge.

ray lahood is a republican who is doing a kick ass job as sec of transportation and obama used huntsman in china .

[jenmito]

18. Just because he's not crazy doesn't mean he should be a Dem. He's very conservative, pro-the Ryan

plan, anti-choice, for a flat tax, etc.

[Logical]

9. He is a smart, intelligent guy who is not nuts. I imagine he is embarassed by many of the GOP...

policy's.

[tabasco]

11. LOL. Yeah, that explains why he's a registered republican, running for their nomination.

[liberalmuse]

12. He used to worry me...

I thought he was the one who might give President Obama a run for his money. He is probably the first Utah Republican politician I could stomach while living there. However, no worries. I totally underestimated how truly bat shit the Republican Party has become. He never stood a chance in hell.

[cthulu2016]

13. Fuck Jon Huntsman.

Sorry, it had to be said.

[nobodyspecial]

14. Again, I've stated already

I do NOT support him. The focus has been Republicans seeking the nomination and this was just my thought.

[cthulu2016]

15. I was making a joke, of sorts

No problem with you!

[nobodyspecial]

17. Oh, like the fuck Ron Paul

Sorry. I just thought that somehow my OP was misconstrued. No worries.

[Hippo_Tron]

16. Meh, not really, he just knows he can't win this time around

Has anybody actually asked him what his plan is to reduce emissions?

[ohheckyeah]

21. Nocturnal or

diurnal?

[Hippo_Tron]

22. Well I'm certain Rick Santorum has a plan for both...

[ohheckyeah]

23. and Rick Perry forgot about both. n/t

[Ikonoklast]

19. He is still a Republican. Fuck him.

I don't care if he is a nice guy, he is still a Republican, and would do everything in his power to advance their agenda if elected.

FUCK THAT NOISE.

[FarPoint]

30. We have to be prepared for the battle.

We must size up our opponents.....He's actually the biggest threat....that is based on competency of the choices from the line-up....So, we need to talk this through.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

24. I've listened to him a couple times

beingtimes being interviewed on the Michael Smerconish Show. Michael, a Republican-turned Independent 2008 Obama voter seems to love the guy. He's about the only Republican running this year that I wouldnt be scared to death to live under but I'd rather Obama be re-elected all the same. Huntsman really just seems to be spinning his wheels anyway. The GOP "base" doesn't really like or trust Mitt but they'll ultimately take him b/c he's so willing to pander to them. There also just doesn't seem to be a thirst among GOP primary voters for a more *moderate* "not Romney".

[David__77]

25. Is he being praised for not being a loon?

Or is there something substantial that would really be good?

[nobodyspecial]

26. Yes, basically

The bar is very low among GOP candidates.

[SaintPete]

27. Expect to see this guy in 2016

Obama wins this year, but Biden will be 74 in 2016, so I don't see Joe moving from VP to just plain old P. I also don't see a fresh new face for us to run that year, with the possible exception of Elizabeth Warren. Just for fun, look to whomever gets the keynote speech at the Dem convention to get an idea where the D party is headed.

Huntsman sees the next step for his party, and with his comparative sanity, and $$ backing, he'll be a Prime-Time player. I betcha $5 right now Huntsman is the 2016 candidate.

[Kablooie]

28. He believes in evolution and refused to sign the no tax pledge.

So he's totally unfit for the Republicans.
He's an old style conservative.
The kind who actually had the ability to think.
They thought wrong most of the time but at least they were thinking.

[dameocrat67]

31. He can stay in the republicans

we dont need any more conservadems that I wont vote for, and the republicans need all the sane people they can get.

I hope people realize that the drive to get sane republicans is the reason the democrats have become so antiworking class and pro wall street.

[unkachuck]

33. "Huntsman is too good for the Republican Party"

....but his rich daddy isn't....his pedigree demands wallowing in the cesspool of puke politics....