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A friend of mine just went for a Dental appointment... (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2020 OP
Time for a new dental office! MLAA Jun 2020 #1
Amen Miigwech Jun 2020 #7
Run. Like hell Joinfortmill Jun 2020 #2
That's nuts I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #3
And you sit next to the hygienist and dentist for 40 minutes, breathing inches from their faces. TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #4
I would find a new dentist ASAP. nt Laffy Kat Jun 2020 #5
What state was this in? PCIntern Jun 2020 #6
Central Brooklyn... brooklynite Jun 2020 #16
my dentist and hygienist wore masks before covid Orangepeel Jun 2020 #8
So did ours nt spooky3 Jun 2020 #18
New dentist time. JDC Jun 2020 #9
Yikes blm Jun 2020 #10
I'd get the fuck out of there and alert the ADA as soon as possible. Initech Jun 2020 #11
haven't seen a dentist without a mask in decades. sheesh nt msongs Jun 2020 #12
I would have laughed and mocked them for a solid hour Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #13
I think you may put yourself at risk if you did that Skittles Jun 2020 #35
These dentists call themselves professional?! PJMcK Jun 2020 #14
That is some next level ignorance, especially for a medical professional. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #15
I had to go to Community Care Monday. marie999 Jun 2020 #17
Report them. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #19
This right here, asap. nt Ilsa Jun 2020 #20
Talked to a nurse at the hospital the other day. Same story. No vaccine for her because Bill Gates. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #21
is Bill Gates the new George Soros? Skittles Jun 2020 #23
I don't know where people are getting this crazy notion from, but I spoke to a smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #28
OK that is just plain scary Skittles Jun 2020 #34
So when's her trip out to Lynch's Irish Pub with 15 of her closest friends planned? n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #24
Not her. She takes the Covid virus very seriously. She wears a mask to step out to check her mail. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #25
I'm glad we have her vote, but she obviously doen't take COVID seriously Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #26
At any rate, she wouldn't be caught dead in a bar. She is quite religious. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #29
For me, it depends on what the research says. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #32
I'd feel a lot better about this so-far-nonexistent vaccine if Soros or Gates were actually involved Hekate Jun 2020 #31
The joke is, these guys don't need to put tracking and influencing devices in us. That's been done. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #33
I've been saying that for years now. The cream of the jest is that WE pay THEM for the privilege... Hekate Jun 2020 #36
And I'm sure these people don't carry credit cards with embedded chips. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #38
um.......not only no but HELL NO Skittles Jun 2020 #22
We all have to stand up for our own safety hamsterjill Jun 2020 #27
I wouldn't go to a dentist who cared so little dawg day Jun 2020 #30
My dentist has ALWAYS worn a mask and gloves Raine Jun 2020 #37
***50% OF TRUMP VOTERS THINK BILL GATES IS TRYING TO MICRO CHIP THEM!!*** (link) uponit7771 Jun 2020 #39
I just went for a "normal" dental appt: They have a new gadget. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #40
Dentists are just as susceptible to whacky theories outside their field of expertise as anybody else Nitram Jun 2020 #41

PCIntern

(25,549 posts)
6. What state was this in?
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jun 2020

As a dentist, I am appalled.

In Pennsylvania if the health board or the state dental board heard this story, the dentist will be shut down in six minutes. That is beyond outrageous.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
8. my dentist and hygienist wore masks before covid
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jun 2020

even in the absence of a pandemic, I don't want them hanging over my open mouth mask free

Initech

(100,076 posts)
11. I'd get the fuck out of there and alert the ADA as soon as possible.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:38 PM
Jun 2020

That dentist and his assistant are probably due to lose their licenses with such a reckless disregard for life.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
13. I would have laughed and mocked them for a solid hour
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jun 2020

How can anyone trust them to know one tooth from the next?

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
15. That is some next level ignorance, especially for a medical professional.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:49 PM
Jun 2020

Seriously, what are they drinking?

It ain't kool-aid, it has to be something stronger and hallucinogenic.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
17. I had to go to Community Care Monday.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:01 PM
Jun 2020

Community Care is an urgent care medical center you go to when your VA Clinic is closed or you need medical care that your VA Clinic can not provide. My temperature was not taken before I saw a nurse. Not one doctor or nurse I saw in the building was wearing a mask or gloves. Today I went to a non-VA hospital. A nurse, wearing a mask and gloves, put a mask on me, took my temperature before I sat down outside for her to take my vitals and asked me the usual questions such as did I have a cough and then wrote everything down about my ailments. Then I was allowed to enter the ER. My wife had to stay in the car, she refused to go home, but she never would go home. In the ER I did not see one person who was not wearing a mask and everyone that came into my room was also wearing gloves. Guess where I will go the next time I need urgent care. I do go to my VA Clinic monthly for an INR blood test. That's for people on a blood thinner. They take your temperature while you sit in your car. They ask you the usual questions. Then you drive to a side door near the lab. You sit in your car until they come out to get you. They give you a mask only, one patient at a time enters the building. I will live, but I hit the trifecta, Sciatica flair up, Peripheral Neuropathy flair up, and Pneumonia.

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
19. Report them.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:09 PM
Jun 2020

If it is not actually prohibited in the state, report them to the appropriate dental board. I'm pretty sure that posture is inconsistent with their guidelines.


ETA: Since Ohio no longer has many meaningful restrictions in place, I am reporting every single violation I find to the health department. At least in Ohio those reports are public information - and given how out-of-touch with reality the mask-slackers are I don't want them to be able to find me, so my reports unfortunately have to be anonymous.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. I don't know where people are getting this crazy notion from, but I spoke to a
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jun 2020

life-long liberal friend of mine on the phone about a week ago and she put her nut-case husband on the phone (whom I do not like, and did not want to speak to) and he just went off on how Bill Gates is trying to innoculate everyone in the world and placing microchips in them so he can monitor everyone. It is completely insane.

It was so bat-shit crazy, I just told him to put my friend back on the phone and told her I had a conference call that I needed to attend in five minutes so that I could hang up. He is one of those malignant narcisssistic, gaslighting, sociopaths who has isolated her from the rest of her family and friends. Unfortunately, they now live in Texas and I live in MA, so I can't observe them up close anymore like I could when we were both in the NY area.

I'm really afraid for her, but I am terrified of him so I don't want to go down to visit, despite the many invitations. She is extremely co-dependent and will turn on anyone who dares to say a bad word about him. It's kind of unfortunate.

Midnight Writer

(21,767 posts)
25. Not her. She takes the Covid virus very seriously. She wears a mask to step out to check her mail.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jun 2020

But the Bill Gates thing? I can't explain it. It's inexplicable, like so much of this nonsense.

By the way, she's not a Trump supporter, either. She was a Hillary voter and is going for Biden 2020.

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
26. I'm glad we have her vote, but she obviously doen't take COVID seriously
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:40 PM
Jun 2020

if she's bought into some conspiracy theory about Bill Gates and vaccines.

If she believes that - she's gullible enough that she probably isn't taking other precautions seriously - or isn't understanding them well enough to carry them out.

Midnight Writer

(21,767 posts)
29. At any rate, she wouldn't be caught dead in a bar. She is quite religious.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jun 2020

And maybe that's a factor. Religious folk do tend to believe in the unbelievable. That's why they call it faith.

Now that I think about it, if Trump trots out an October Surprise Vaccine just before the election, I won't be first in line for that myself.

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
32. For me, it depends on what the research says.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:10 AM
Jun 2020

For me to take it, it has to be safe (I probably wouldn't trust some of the new breakthroughs in creating vaccines with the testing that can be cone between now and then), and it has to be effective. The more effective it is, the more willing I am to accept some risk. If it's as ineffective as the influenza vaccine is, it has to be pretty close to zero risk (it better be made using tried and true, well-tested mechanisms). If it's as effective as smallpox, polio, tetanus - I'd be more tolerant of risk.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
31. I'd feel a lot better about this so-far-nonexistent vaccine if Soros or Gates were actually involved
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:09 AM
Jun 2020

At least they believe in Science.

As it is, count me among those who will not be lining up for Trump Vaccine -- which I predict will be rolled out like a new hotel in October. I think it will be hastily-approved, for-profit, and unsafe. It will be this election's October Surprise.

Midnight Writer

(21,767 posts)
33. The joke is, these guys don't need to put tracking and influencing devices in us. That's been done.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:13 AM
Jun 2020

It's called the Smartphone, and most Americans carry them around voluntarily.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
36. I've been saying that for years now. The cream of the jest is that WE pay THEM for the privilege...
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:29 AM
Jun 2020

...of gathering and selling OUR information.

Smartphone does it with techno-toys, and FB does it with games and quizzes you share with your friends.

I say this to people, and they look at me funny. I have an iPhone, and I am aware that they track me. However I have made a conscious and (I hope) knowledgable decision, because I am a person with almost no sense of direction and Siri is a godsend.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
22. um.......not only no but HELL NO
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:25 PM
Jun 2020

I had a dentist appointment last week, I was very comfortable with the extensive measures they were taking regarding covid....I would steer clear of any dentist talking about "natural immunity".

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
27. We all have to stand up for our own safety
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:40 PM
Jun 2020

Like most replies, I’d vote finding a new dentist. But we are going to have to become more assertive about these things. She should have refused to get into the chair unless she felt her safety was being considered. It’s hard sometimes.

I was at Costco several weeks ago and they were pushing the self checkouts. I was in line for a regular conveyor belt checkout. An employee came over and asked me to go to the self-checkout, and I ultimately did. During the checkout process, I was too close to other patrons, I had to insert my membership card and credit card and make selections on a keypad, and I felt unsafe. I promised myself that next time, it will be an assertive “no thank you”. We cannot worry about offending someone right now.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
30. I wouldn't go to a dentist who cared so little
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:04 AM
Jun 2020

About hygiene. My dentist before all this was fully masked and gloved... treated this like surgery. That's what I want.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
40. I just went for a "normal" dental appt: They have a new gadget.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 09:30 AM
Jun 2020

It was a clear hemisphere on a flexible hose, moved to a position near my head. It could be a form of "cone of silence". It was to suck up any bits that fly when my mouth is sprayed with water or air, or when the polisher is moving.

Like the "cone of silence", the hygenist couldn't understand anything I said, and I couldn't understand her. The machine made a whirring, sucking sound.

But hey, no cavities were found, no cracked fillings, no nothing.

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