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applegrove

(118,674 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:23 PM Jun 2020

It's all but official: Trump is trying to make a COVID-19 vaccine his October surprise

It's all but official: Trump is trying to make a COVID-19 vaccine his October surprise

Jun 17, 2020 3:38pm by Joan McCarter, Daily Kos Staff

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/1953902

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Impeached President Donald Trump is pushing health officials to speed up the timeline for a coronavirus vaccine in order to have it ready this fall. Administration sources tell The Washington Post that his "goal is to instill confidence among voters that the virus can be tamed and the economy fully reopened under Trump’s stewardship." In other words, he wants to look like a president solving a crisis ahead of the election.

It's sure as hell not about saving lives. If that mattered to him, we wouldn't be in a vicious resurgence of the disease. If saving lives mattered to him he wouldn't be risking thousands of his own supporters by having his rally in Tulsa this weekend. If saving lives was what it was about, there would be adequate PPE for every essential worker and we'd still all be home, financially and physically secure. But it's not about saving lives—not even down to the damned least thing he could have done: putting on a goddamned mask on television, in front of the nation. If he'd done that, who knows how many lives would have been saved.

Anyway, back to the dirt spilled to the Post. Last month, two senior White House officials say, Trump met with Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper about the vaccine project, which they are insanely calling Operation Warp Speed. In this meeting, "Trump pushed Azar repeatedly to speed up the already unprecedented timeline. […] Trump wants some people to be able to get the vaccine sooner than the end of the year to demonstrate an end to the pandemic is within reach, according to those officials and two others." It's not clear who the "some people," other than him and Ivanka, are. If health officials are allowed a say, it will be the elderly and frontline essential workers, but health officials care about saving lives. In reality it would definitely be Trump's buddies who get a vaccine first—if they would be willing to take it.

That's another big issue here: The majority of people who have seen Trump's response to the crisis thus far would not trust a rushed vaccine. Which means that even if a vaccine is rushed out, it will probably do little to help Trump's prospects in November.

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Bev54

(10,052 posts)
2. Who is going to be surprised?
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jun 2020

We all know that is what he is going to do and even Fauci has said he would counter that "surprise"

Ex Lurker

(3,814 posts)
9. Supposedly we have 6 million doses of the Oxford vaccine
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 02:03 AM
Jun 2020

Right now, with 35 million by August. I dont have a link, just something I read the other day. Obviously not enough for the whole country, but enough for first responders and to contain major outbreaks.

Trump is latching on to this to take credit, but the timeline is legit. The Brits intend to roll out the vaccine in September and have the entire UK vaccinated by Christmas.

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
5. Why trust a vaccine from Sir Bleach A Lot?
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:38 PM
Jun 2020

I would fear for my life on some stupid rushed vaccine to satisfy his insane desires.

Not that I am anti-vax, just anti death by stupidity.

Knowing dump, the vaccine they come up with will be nothing more than Clorox with a side of hydroxychloroquine.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. *snort*
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 02:25 AM
Jun 2020


Seriously, is anyone with half a brain going to buy into that? I know that I won't. I'm not letting anyone stick a syringe of Lysol into my butt. I think I will wait until the actual scientists and doctors come up with something that has been tried and tested.

Thekaspervote

(32,771 posts)
8. Even if it is a good vaccine and it's out by October it's not going to change his fate
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:31 AM
Jun 2020

200,000 Americans dead by then and he thinks, or anyone thinks that is going to set things right....nope!!

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
11. When it doesn't happen, he will scream sabotage by DEM scientists
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 07:46 AM
Jun 2020

who are working to deliver the vax for Pres. Biden.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
13. He already rushed a "cure" that ended up killing people
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 07:58 AM
Jun 2020

And continues to hawk hydroxychloroquine to this day.

Yeah, Dr. Trump, sure, whatever.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
15. Not Buying It
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jun 2020

There are labs worldwide working on vaccines.
There will be no surprise if one of those labs gets good results.
They will issue press releases, announce on social media, do international TV interviews.
I no longer have confidence in Kos.
This story is CT.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
16. No one in their right mind would trust any vaccine that's rushed out like that
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jun 2020

and I seriously doubt any pharmaceutical company is going to risk their future over this sort of stunt. Can't say it won't happen, just seriously doubt it.

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