One snobby private school-Three graduates looking for new colleges

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

This kind of story never gets old. Some of the finer products of one of the local snob factories get their graduation presents-a request from their colleges to please pursue their higher education opportunities elsewhere. In an area where the local schools are really good (and the school taxes really high) their parents shell out another 30k or so to attend a private school where they have apparently learned nothing of real value.

Whenever I see one of these videos now my first questions are "where did they used to work?" or "where did they used to go to school?" I see these are the correct things to ask. I started to say "their parents must be so proud" but then realized that they probably are. Where else did these kids learn these ideals? When last seen, Mr. Giaquinto was begging the University of Richmond for another chance. I'm sure the University of Richmond was happy to have had another chance to reconsider admitting him in the first place.

The University of Richmond on Wednesday rescinded its admission offer to Adam Giaquinto, a 2020 graduate of the Morristown-Beard School who mocked police brutality victim George Floyd in a Snapchat video posted over the weekend.

His fellow MBS alum, gridiron star Nate Panza, was dropped from the Cornell University football team on Tuesday over his use of the N-word in the same video.

Colgate University also withdrew its acceptance of Sarah Laud, another recent graduate of Morristown-Beard, over a TikTok video she posted that belittled African Americans.

https://morristowngreen.com/2020/06/24/third-morristown-beard-student-gets-cold-shoulder-from-college-after-racist-video/

[Proud liberal 80]

1. Why when I see this

I think of how a young Brett Kavanaugh was an acted

[3Hotdogs]

2. Not to worry. Morris County Community College accepts all comers.

(It is a good school)

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

3. That's County College of Morris!

Harvard on the Highway. And yes, it is a very good school.

[Celerity]

13. would they take known racists?

[Coventina]

17. Most community colleges in the US are open entry.

There is no screening process.

You fill out an application, but really, the only purpose of it is to determine if you pay in-state or out-of-state tuition.

Having said that, you can get expelled for violating the school's Code of Conduct.
(However, the student's private social media is not covered by that).

[3Hotdogs]

23. The application process is a geography test.

If you can find the campus, you're in.

[brooklynite]

4. I serve on the Board of what I'm sure you would consider a "snobby private school"

Nothing in the article suggests that the school itself was the cause of their biases.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

6. Nor did I say that

In fact I said they learned it at home. What I added is that they apparently learned nothing of value from their choice to attend this VERY expensive private school. And yes, this is an elitist institution with an attitude that can only come from rich white suburbanites looking to prove they are superior to their neighboring rich white suburbanites.

[brooklynite]

9. You chose the word "snobby"

So I wouldn't find those racist comments coming from any blue collar family sending their kids to public school in Arkansas or Idaho?

[The Magistrate]

12. The Un-Stated Presumption, Sir

Is that an education will reduce bigotry, so that open expressions of bigotry by well educated people jar the sensibilities in a way such expressions from poorly educated or uneducated people do not.

[dsc]

25. actually in Arkansas I would be somewhat surprised to find a public school white student saying that

unless they came from an area with no or very few black people. In many southern public schools white students aren't the majority and thus can't behave the way those students did on the video without having major problems from fellow students. We teachers can't be everywhere, nor can we follow you home. If you are a white kid in a public school where whites aren't a majority and you are as publicly racist as those kids your school experience won't be pleasant.

[Blue_true]

31. I went to a public high school in the South where Whites were the overwhelming

majority of the students. I had White friends, none used racist words and none treated me like I was inferior to them. Maybe there were kids that used racist words, but I never dealt with one.

[LanternWaste]

42. Is 'snobby' a more or less accurate pejorative than you yourself used...

to describe VP Biden's presidential candidacy announcement last year?

Or is your pique raised only when convenient?

[cwydro]

49. Dude? You try so hard.

[The Polack MSgt]

21. "Nothing in the article suggests that the school itself was the cause of their biases"

Except that 3 recent graduates were involved in a racist incident that resulted in their admissions into 3 different colleges getting withdrawn.

If 3 members of the same Scout Troop were involved a similar scenario, people would reasonably ask what exactly that troop was teaching those kids.

Why should the school be spared those questons?

Putting quotation marks around "Snobby Private School" while leaping to defend an institution that you are not personally connected with seems a little sensitive to me.

Do you have personal knowledge that this school is aggresively anti racist or has a pro-active program to fight bias in its students?

Oris it that any whiff of disparaging language against those in your social position puts you on the defensive?

But, thanks. Appreciate you reminding us, again, that you are a wealthy person with connections in your social class.

[llashram]

30. right on the mark

[Trumpocalypse]

38. Something not mentioned in the story

My niece went to MBS and has been raging about this the last few days. What the story doesn’t say is that there were 3 other students who took part in these videos. All 3 are current MBS students. My niece and other graduates are demanding that MBS expel these students but the school has refused to do so.

[The Polack MSgt]

39. Except, actaully... that sounds about right. Minors have a right to privacy that adults don't

I hate to say it though.

Because the benefit of the doubt that should be in place for all teens evaporates right quick if your skin is black

[Trumpocalypse]

40. Do they still have a right to privacy

if they post something to social media?

[The Polack MSgt]

43. That's up to the policy of each circuit judge as far as I can remember (Not a lawyer at all)

But that's one of the problems - DAs can claim that certain cases would never make through the appeals process or that evidence would be disallowed based on the presiding courts.

But we all know that those 3 kids -if they exist and are in enrolled in the school- represent about $100k next year. The school sure as fuck presumes they (and their parents) are entitled to privacy

[StarfishSaver]

45. Nicely done ...

[no_hypocrisy]

5. Hey, Morristown-Beard School, you MUST be so PROUD . . . . and

BTW, this schools takes ANYONE whose family can pay the tuition. I knew of an "incorrigible" student whose public school couldn't handle. His orthopedic surgeon father made a sizable donation, paid the tuition and the kid was soon an alum of MBS.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

18. I wonder if the school refers to itself as "MBS"?

The last MBS I remember was known for sending a group to meet a journalist, the group carrying a bone-saw.

No relation, I'm sure.

[malaise]

41. Deep

[Tipperary]

7. These kind of people are in all schools.

Even your average public schools. Nothing to do with being at a private school.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

8. Yes they are

But you don't pay $39,170 per year over and above your already expensive local school taxes to go a school that sells it's reputation as a step above the public school system.

[brooklynite]

11. What is your evidence that it's NOT a "step ahead"?

Setting aside their personal comments, they apparently had the academics and background to get into some quality ("snobby"?) Universities.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

14. So you're cool with buying access?

The local public high schools in this area send plenty of students to those same "snobby" universities, including my kids. These students wouldn't have gotten into those same schools from the local public high schools? And if the answer to that is no, then they did indeed purchase their entry tickets. The point is this school sells itself as elite but it didn't "educate the ignorance" out of these students. Not an indictment of the school but an example that buying your opportunity and advantage doesn't launder the rot away.

[Blue_true]

32. So you proudly compare schools that can selectively choose students

to schools that have to take in any student that lives in the district and shows up at their doors. There is no way that I would attempt to make the comparison that you did. I prefer to use money to make society around me better, not to shore-up inequities.

[brooklynite]

48. So, all private schools should be closed?

I assume that applies to all private Universities as well?

[Blue_true]

50. I didn't say that.

I said that comparing schools that get to pick their students AND parents to ones that can't do that is a false comparison. My final point in my post was that if people spent the money and time on their local schools as is spent on private and charter schools, public schools would perform better. As it is, public schools form the overwhelming training base for America's future workers, professional and blue collar, it has been that way since the country started wholesale public education.

[StarfishSaver]

46. Maybe

But when kids in "your average public school" behave badly, no one thinks twice about them being punished. If they're black, plenty of folk think nothing of them getting the book thrown at them.

[bobbieinok]

10. Thanks for post. Really have to wonder what these schools are doing---Kav, kid vs Natv American

[catbyte]

15. I'm sure they'll welcome them with open arms at Liberty or Bob Jones Universities.

Or Hillsdale College.

[Hav]

16. Good

You cannot force others to not be racist pos but you don't have to accept it. It's good when there are consequences for deplorable behavior and it should continue to be that way until they learn their lessons.

[PCIntern]

19. Good. I went to school with fucks like these even in the 60's

At my hippie private school. There always these nasty fucks around but nothing ever happened to them in my day.

And I use the noun “fucks” because that was what we called them back then. To address them we’d say”hey Fucko”.

[Blue_true]

33. My public school had a lot of rich kids.

For some reason their parents chose to send them to the public high school. There were definite class differences, some kids drove nice luxury cars to school and had nice cloths and the works, but only one rich kid was remotely an asshole (he was mostly spoiled, his daddy owned several of the most prominent businesses in the city, but even that kid was not racist).

[PatrickforO]

20. Maybe if more of this happens, it will be a deterrent.

Jerks. Gosh now their parents will have to pay full boat for them to go to another school.

[Blue_true]

34. I heard that more and more schools do social media research on applicants.

Sometimes a kid isn't racist, but get caught up in the peer group BS.

[PatSeg]

22. So many people

are learning the hard way that words really do have consequences. This is very reassuring.

[Blue_true]

35. It should be done to the nth degree.

Maybe then parents will start seriously teaching their kids to respect everyone until a person shows that he or she doesn't deserve respect based upon their character.

[cabot]

24. I don't get how this keeps happening

These people know such videos go viral...they've seen the consequences. Why? Why do they keep doing it? Is it arrogance? Stupidity? Both? I just don't get it.

[Caliman73]

27. The brain does not fully develop until around age 25.

The last parts of the brain to fully develop are the prefrontal cortex, precisely the area of the brain that manages long term planning, decision-making, impulse control, and social moderation.

I remember doing some stupid and dangerous things at that age because I thought I was not going to get hurt. Fortunately for me, by the time cellphone camera proliferation and You Tube were a thing, I was out of that phase.

Not to say that I don't do dumb things or make poor choices. I just have a tighter lid on my silliness AND I don't video and post everything that I do online.

[cabot]

28. I'm so glad Youtube and Twitter didn't exist when I was a teenager

Not to say I did anything like what the kids in these videos did, but I was drunk quite a bit and some of my behaviour was, well...let's just say stupid.

[Blue_true]

36. Using racist terminology is ingrained in some kids.

Yes, a kid here and there whose parents taught him or her to respect everyone get caught up in a racist act, but typically it is kids whose parents taught them racism.

[StarfishSaver]

47. One reason: they fully expect to get away with it because they know so many others have

{cough} Kavanaugh {cough}

[3Hotdogs]

26. There is a private school in the area -- a place for kids that are a bit out of focus.

For this story, school and student shall be nameless , "I'll call student, Bob and the V.P., Albert."

Anyways, school is being reviewed by an employee of N.J. Dept. of Ed. Guy is being given a tour of the grounds when Albert spots Bob sitting in a tree.

Albert: "Hey Bob, why don't you climb down from the tree?"

Bob: "Hey Albert, why don't you go slam your dick in a drawer?"


Another story. This is from the public school at which I was a teacher for 17 years. One of their most famous students served time for his service at Enron ... You get the idea. Private school attitude but for less money. Republican majority voters.

So the superintendent decides to implement an attendance policy-- 18 absences and you lose credit. At the faculty meeting to present this, faculty asks what is to prevent a kid from acting out after they lose credit? After all, the kid then has nothing to lose.

Supt. explains that there will be no consequences since our kids are good kids.

Fast forward to May. Kid lost credit in all courses and has no motivation towards scholarship. After acting out in class, she is sent to the office where she is sitting on a bench, waiting for a parent to come and collect her because she was suspended.

Supt. walks in, goes to the counter that faces the kid sitting on the bench. He looks in her direction, trying to gather his thoughts while he is writing something.

Student: "What are you looking at, Dickhead?"

Faculty got a kick out of that.

[Laxman]

29. The Parking Lot At Morristown-Beard.....

is full of cars that cost more than the average American home-many, if not most, with Trump bumper stickers. I hated having to go there for sporting events. I wonder if Mr. Panza will indeed be attending Cornell, having lost his place on the football team. Athletes get preferential admissions at Ivy League institutions. Football has 4 "bands" based upon academic standing. They are allowed to take only a certain number of players from each band each year. If he was in the top band, he may have gotten in without preference. If he was in one of the others, he wouldn't have even sniffed an acceptance without status as a legacy or a large donation. Lots of qualified students didn't get in and he is eating up one of their spots.

https://cornellsun.com/2020/06/23/incoming-cornell-freshman-uses-racial-slur-in-video-loses-spot-on-football-team/?fbclid=IwAR35jj1MAXDf1MCp2l2D5e9UWvxYAq7jsXXKteODAtl_4rgugiqpFpHPYKo

[Trumpocalypse]

37. My niece went to MBS

and has been all over this the last few days. The issue is that there are three other current MBS students who took part in these videos that the school refuses to expell.

[StarfishSaver]

44. Oh, come on - they're just "kids being kids"

And we all know that kids do stupid things that shouldn't be held against them the rest of their lives and definitely shouldn't affect their futures.

If they're white, I mean.

Otherwise, they need to learn that behavior has consequences - don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

51. Well at least the President of Colgate can state the obvious

Casey, who was also addressing another racist video posted by a Colgate student, said “the level of ignorance shown in these videos is appalling. In a time when we have seen people across the world rightfully outraged by the recent killings of George Floyd and countless other black men and women and we see nearly every institution in the country looking at the nature and effect of systemic racism, these videos evince a level of cruelty that is staggering.”