This New Coronavirus Wave Isn't Like the Old Wave

[soothsayer]

Whistling past the graveyard

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-07-01/covid-19-cases-in-arizona-florida-texas-aren-t-on-same-scale

Arizona, Florida and Texas aren’t facing the same conditions as New York did in its Covid-19 outbreak.

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Things may keep getting worse in Arizona, and its Covid outbreak may eventually surpass New York City’s. But it’s a long, long way from getting there, and I’m guessing that it won’t. That isn’t to say that things are looking good in the Grand Canyon State, or in Texas, Florida, Southern California or any of the other places now experiencing big growth in coronavirus cases. But the specific conditions that enabled the awful explosion of the disease in New York City are not being replicated.

[enid602]

1. deaths

Covid deaths in Metro Phoenix are only 1/14th of Covid deaths in Metro NY, on a per capita basis.

[SledDriver]

2. Deaths being reported as due to Covid

Bet there’s an uptick in pneumonia deaths though

[marybourg]

8. My elderly neighbor was tested for both flu and covid. Negative

Bacterial pneumonia. Phoenix suburb. Lots of elderly, and they still get pneumonia, just as they did before.

[LeftInTX]

13. Covid is still listed as cause of death, if they test positive and die from pneumonia

[Steelrolled]

15. Yes, and at least in states that follow CDC guidelines,

even if a COVID test was not done, the cause of death will list COVID if the circumstances suggest it (e.g. based on symptoms and in a facility with COVID infections). Some states report these in a separate category from confirmed cases.

[janterry]

3. Treatment has improved

generally - (fortunately!)

[donkeypoofed]

4. The virus can and will mutate

So we can't get too comfortable.

[soothsayer]

5. Are people comfortable?

I’m not comfortable

[samnsara]

11. our county is in stage three but we bump up against two stage 1 counties..

..one of which is the buggiest county on the west coast. I still will NOT go out to eat or congregate in any manner until theres a vaccine thats NOT endorsed by trump. I havent seen my dtr or grand kids in over a year and they are only 3 hours away. They may come over to visit in a few weeks but they are all house bound anyway..meaning they work from home and the grands are teens..both are total homebodies... one a 2020 grad Honors student. They will stay here a few days as my dtr is mandated to take a week long furlough. Srcub scrub scrub.. do I even dare hug them?

[LisaL]

6. Dude. Houston hospitals are already running out of room and have to send patients to other cities.

But I am sure everything is just fine.

[Tipperary]

10. Thank you.

As Fauci always said, the deaths lag behind.

[marybourg]

7. New hotspots also don't have the crowded situations of N.Y.C.

People go to work largely in their own car, to a one or two story building. There are few places with long lines (other than hipster bars) to negotiate.

[PCIntern]

9. It's just getting started there

Your optimism is duly noted.

[Stallion]

12. I'll Wait for the Medical/Scientific Analysis Rather than Wall Street Analysis

[Squinch]

14. This article is ridiculous. It is basing its assumptions on 1) the fact that the number of

new cases in Arizona today, at about 3000, is less than the number of daily new cases in NY in April, which was about 5000. But three weeks ago, the number of new cases in Arizona was 1400. On June 1, the number of new cases in Arizona were 187. So Arizona will be up past 5000 cases in a day pretty soon.

2) the article bases its assumption that things will not be as bad in Arizona on the fact that, by the time NY took action there were already over 10,000 cases. Arizona has over 80,000 cases. And they just closed bars, clubs and gyms TWO DAYS AGO.

The article is just nutty.

And it appears that there are a lot more deniers in Arizona than there were in NY. Articles like this don't help.

[soothsayer]

17. That's what I think

[Squinch]

18. Thank you for posting it. It shows first, how the source is feeling a need to blue-sky the

crisis, and second, the comments show how many deniers there STILL are in the area.

Those poor people.

[Steelrolled]

16. This virus seems like a hurricane and you never know when it will make a turn

for the better, or for the worse.

[Squinch]

19. Nah. We know exactly how to make it worse and make it better.