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SouthernCal_Dem

(852 posts)
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 02:25 PM Jul 2020

Border Wall Built by Trump's Hand-Picked Contractor Is 'in Danger of Falling into the Rio Grande'

By Jerry Lambe
Jul 2nd, 2020

A little-known North Dakota construction firm that was awarded the single largest border wall contract after its CEO effusively praised the president in a slew of conservative media appearances is now defending its product as experts warn the structure is in danger of collapsing, ProPublica and the Texas Tribune reported Thursday.

Several experts interviewed for the report said poor planning and shoddy engineering have left the wall “in danger of falling into the Rio Grande.”

The company, Fisher Sand & Gravel (FSG), in May was won a record-high $1.3 billion government contract to erect a portion of President Donald Trump’s proposed U.S.-Mexico border wall, despite FSG’s prototype being rejected by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for lacking in both “quality” and “sophistication.”

As previously reported by Law&Crime, President Trump directly inserted himself into the process for evaluating and awarding government construction contracts, lobbying on behalf of FSG and the firm’s CEO Tommy Fisher. Fisher, who has made a number of Fox News guest appearances, reportedly sold Trump on his company by playing to his impatience with the lack of progress on his signature campaign promise, telling the president he could build the wall faster and cheaper than other contractors bidding on the project. Fisher has since described his design as the “Lamborghini” of walls.

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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/border-wall-built-by-trumps-hand-picked-contractor-is-in-danger-of-falling-into-the-rio-grande/

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Border Wall Built by Trump's Hand-Picked Contractor Is 'in Danger of Falling into the Rio Grande' (Original Post) SouthernCal_Dem Jul 2020 OP
No problem - Trump has already pocketed the kickback so he's good. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #1
+1 dalton99a Jul 2020 #2
Donations! Donations! keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #35
Perhaps GOD is saying something here...and of course the standard corruption all around of ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #3
Of course it will collapse. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #4
Already? dawg day Jul 2020 #5
Not to mention the Chinese. Alacritous Crier Jul 2020 #13
And the AFRICANS..ever heard of Zimbabwe? How 'bout the ANCIENT CHRISTIAN church called Lalibela The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 2020 #34
Yes, I'm familiar with all of those. Good examples! Alacritous Crier Jul 2020 #36
Lalibela is one of the world's wonders and it took more than twenty years to build. littlemissmartypants Jul 2020 #38
That's a common word surrounding Trump. ZenDem Jul 2020 #6
The Wall is the ultimate monument of hate and prejudice that must be pulled down. Under The Radar Jul 2020 #7
You know what they call a wall that falls into a river? Binkie The Clown Jul 2020 #8
Was thinking the same... WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #25
+100 Totally Tunsie Jul 2020 #26
Nov. 3rd would be a fitting date for a collapse lame54 Jul 2020 #9
Mayby early October would be good. Let the MAGAts soak in their "glory" for a month. nt NCjack Jul 2020 #22
Lock them up malaise Jul 2020 #10
Is that the same bullshit company that got the contracts in PR after Maria? Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #11
No, that was Whitefish electric (2employees) out of Whitefish MT, home niyad Jul 2020 #32
Your Tax Dollars At Work Ohiogal Jul 2020 #12
"Something that does not love a wall Vogon_Glory Jul 2020 #14
"Fisher has described his design as the Lamborghini of walls." yellowcanine Jul 2020 #15
Oh please, let it be so. I could use the laugh and it just gives Dems more ammo on his lark Jul 2020 #16
It's an omen. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #17
Funniest thing to happen since Mexicans stole the concertina wire yellowcanine Jul 2020 #18
$1.3 billion completely wasted. Awesome. coti Jul 2020 #19
Has anyone told hoax-#45? I don't mean in a PDB -- but has someone actually NCjack Jul 2020 #23
Jeebus. fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #20
Courtois says water in our Lamborghini is normal for new cars William Seger Jul 2020 #29
"the wall's steel bollards reach only 2.5 feet into the ground" CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #31
For future reference ... lpbk2713 Jul 2020 #21
somebody go give it a push! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2020 #24
The perfect photo op: Chump autographing this section of the wall; Totally Tunsie Jul 2020 #27
The Lamborghini of walls DFW Jul 2020 #28
Everything he touches turns to shit! Alwaysna Jul 2020 #30
From what I understand, about 200miles of wall/barrier have been replaced, and THREE miles of actua niyad Jul 2020 #33
Trump wall falling over, almost into the street. keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #37

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
3. Perhaps GOD is saying something here...and of course the standard corruption all around of ...
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jul 2020

course, by the time everyone pocketed a portion of this, and of that, not much was left over for the actual wall, so what was left collapsed.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
4. Of course it will collapse.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jul 2020

Like everything he’s ever slapped together it is shoddy and substandard.

Another boondoggle and waste of money.

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(722 posts)
34. And the AFRICANS..ever heard of Zimbabwe? How 'bout the ANCIENT CHRISTIAN church called Lalibela
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 06:13 PM
Jul 2020

carved out of SOLID bedrock in Ethiopia & the lesser known TEMPLE OF YEHA, (500 BC) there? What about the pyramids of Sudan, aka NUBIA AND Egypt, (Which is an African Country in spite of what some want people to believe)? Ever heard of ADAM'S CALENDAR in Mpulamanga, South Africa, which is considered to be the OLDEST, (as in 75,000 year old) construction ON EARTH linked to the Human Race? What about the Larabanga Mosque, built in the Sudanese style in Mali, made of MUD or Adobe Bricks, founded in 1421?

Here's the thing, thump would FU a free BBQ...SMGDH

littlemissmartypants

(22,691 posts)
38. Lalibela is one of the world's wonders and it took more than twenty years to build.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jul 2020

I imagine so many corners were cut building Trump’s wall it's a circle. A visit to Lalibela would be a dream destination, Trump’s wall, not so much. I definitely wouldn't trust him with fire or spicy BBQ. Maybe some banal mashed potatoes. 🙃

❤ lmsp

niyad

(113,329 posts)
32. No, that was Whitefish electric (2employees) out of Whitefish MT, home
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jul 2020

Of former Interior Sec. ryan zinke.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
14. "Something that does not love a wall
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jul 2020

Hay algo que no quierre a un pared...

OK, it’s not Robert Frost, and it rarely, rarely even snows along the southern part of the Rio Grande, but something doesn’t like walls anyway...

lark

(23,105 posts)
16. Oh please, let it be so. I could use the laugh and it just gives Dems more ammo on his
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jul 2020

utter incompetence and stupidity.

coti

(4,612 posts)
19. $1.3 billion completely wasted. Awesome.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:33 PM
Jul 2020

Honestly, it would have been completely wasted even if the wall stood up. But at least this removes all doubt.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
23. Has anyone told hoax-#45? I don't mean in a PDB -- but has someone actually
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

screamed into his ears the news of the cruddy job being done on the wall?

fleur-de-lisa

(14,625 posts)
20. Jeebus.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jul 2020

More from the article:

But engineering experts and hydrologists told ProPublica that despite Fisher’s boasts, the wall was built too close to the Rio Grande river and is in serious danger of collapse, as photos show “a series of gashes and gullies” along the base of the structure that have severely weakened the structure’s foundation.

Under FSG’s design, the foundation for the wall’s steel bollards reach only 2.5 feet into the ground, less than one-third as deep as government usually requires. The shallow foundation combined with the rugged riverbank terrain is reportedly a recipe for disaster.

“When the river rises, it will likely attack those areas where the foundation is exposed, further weakening support of the fence and potentially causing portions … to fall into the Rio Grande,” Alex Mayer told ProPublica. Mayer is a University of Texas at El Paso civil engineer professor who has done research in the Rio Grande basin.

FSG’s attorney Mark Courtois told ProPublica that the erosion was “a normal part of new construction projects like this and does not in any way compromise the fence or associated roadway.” He added that FSG will seek to build drainage ditches to lessen the deterioration.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
29. Courtois says water in our Lamborghini is normal for new cars
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jul 2020

He added that FSG will seek to install a windshield.

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
31. "the wall's steel bollards reach only 2.5 feet into the ground"
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:30 PM
Jul 2020

That's ridiculous! When I build 6 foot tall residential wood fences here in FL I set my posts in the ground 2.5 feet, in concrete.

And that's just a 6 ft tall residential fence in a yard, not a 20 ft tall (?) border wall.

Jesus, they are so bad at this. How did this design ever get approved?

Remember when part of the new bollard wall that was under construction blew over a few months ago? The temporary braces were totally inadequate & it made me wonder what building inspector signed off on the bracing system. I'm starting to believe that no one reviewed the design & nothing is being inspected.

Freaking amateurs.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
27. The perfect photo op: Chump autographing this section of the wall;
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jul 2020

the wall responds by falling into the river.

I'd like an 8X10 of that, please!

DFW

(54,403 posts)
28. The Lamborghini of walls
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jul 2020

Too bad it turned out to be as stable as the tortellini of walls. Probably didn't taste anywhere nearly as good, either.

niyad

(113,329 posts)
33. From what I understand, about 200miles of wall/barrier have been replaced, and THREE miles of actua
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jul 2020

New, not-previously existing barrier have been constructed. I remuneration hearing some time ago about sections of newly-worked on sections falling into the river. Frankly, I was hoping that the Mexicans would recycle it all, but the bridge image is wonderful!

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