What Native Americans should have statues? And where would you put them?

[bobbieinok]

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. They should decide, and put them wherever they want to.

[Nevilledog]

2. +1

[soothsayer]

3. Yasssss!

Sovereignty.

[fleur-de-lisa]

7. Yes!

[Cracklin Charlie]

4. I think there are many already. Monuments at least.

And I’m sure there are many fine candidates.

There should be as many as their descendants want there to be.

[doc03]

16. We have a bronze one in Wheeling WV of a Mingo indian

with out streched arms welcoming travelers. If he were alive today he would pointing for us to go back where we came from. A few years ago some college guys cut him down for a prank. He was recovered and returned to his monument.

[lame54]

5. That Italian guy who cried

[lpbk2713]

12. Iron Eyes Cody

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[cwydro]

15. I think the guy that played him was an Italian actor.

[Raine]

35. Yup Italian American, I was curious so I Googled him. 🙂 nt

[Loki Liesmith]

6. They should make a huge Crazy Horse monument in the Black Hills

[WePurrsevere]

10. It would be great if they finished it even though...

The artist who started it crossed over.

For those who aren't familiar: https://crazyhorsememorial.org/visit

[doc03]

11. I hope it will be finished but probably not

in my lifetime. I saw both a few years ago and was more impressed with Crazy Horse. To think one man devoted his life to building it is amazing.

[eShirl]

8. I would just let them have their sacred lands back

[Alacritous Crier]

21. +1

[chriscan64]

9. Statues are a European thing

Mountains served as monuments before being strip mined and having dude's faces carved into them.

[Alacritous Crier]

22. +1

[panader0]

13. Well, I live in Cochise County...........

[Budi]

14. HERE'S THE STORY - The Sioux Tribe of S Dakota & a Monument to Chief Crazy Horse

Article form 2019 The New Yorker.

This is the Most interesting account of Chief Crazy Horse, a controversial monument, the promise by the US Gov't, the betrayal & Gen Custer's fate.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/09/23/who-speaks-for-crazy-horse/amp


Who Speaks for Crazy Horse?
The world’s largest monument is decades in the making and more than a little controversial.




The street corners of downtown Rapid City, South Dakota, the gateway to the Black Hills and the self-proclaimed “most patriotic city in America,” are populated by bronze statues of all the former Presidents of the United States, each just eerily shy of life-size.

On the corner of Mount Rushmore Road and Main Street, a diminutive Andrew Jackson scowls and crosses his arms; on Ninth and Main, a shoulder-high Teddy Roosevelt strikes an impressive pose, holding a petite sword.


SNIP
The monument is meant to depict Tasunke Witko—best known as Crazy Horse—the Oglala Lakota warrior famous for his role in the resounding defeat of Custer and the Seventh Cavalry at the Battle of the Little Bighorn and for his refusal to accept, even in the face of violence and tactical starvation, the American government’s efforts to confine his people on reservations.
He is a beloved symbol for the Lakota today because “he never conceded to the white man,”

MORE..Enjoy the Read 🍃

[jeffreyi]

17. how about forgetting stupid statues

and putting the money into useful products, services, education and training for those in need.

[Quixote1818]

18. I love this. LOTS of them!!!! nt

[NightWatcher]

19. Read their words instead of looking for statues. Black Elk Speaks is a great start.

I can then point you towards some good stuff like Dee Brown and works covering the Iroquois all the way to the AI Movement.

[GusBob]

20. They should be put in their homelands

Chief Joseph, Black Kettle, Ely Parker, Heavy Runner,

There are many

[grantcart]

28. They should rename one of the bases for Parker

[chowder66]

23. John Trudell. Nebraska and California

Where he was born and where he died.

I had the pleasure of working for him one summer and will never ever forget him.

[nmgaucho]

24. Quanah Parker

My aunt was named after him

[shockey80]

25. Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull, Geronimo.

Red Cloud, Chief Joseph, Captain Jack, Roman Nose, Black Kettle, The list is long.

[ProfessorGAC]

26. There's A Great One in Oregon, Illinois

At the Lowden State Park.
I don't think it's historically any single person.
More a tribute to the tribes in NW Illinois.
48' tall, and has been there around 110 years.
It's a very dignified piece and the plaque references the indomitable spirit of the native Blackhawk.

Picture is in this link.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Statue

[grantcart]

27. Gen Ely Parker

A friend of US Grant who was a skilled and trained engineer and was brought into the army to assist the Union Army in engineering offensive strategies when singing forts, laying railroads, pontoon bridges etc.

First native American officer and General.

He drew up the surrender documents at Appomattox and famously told Lee that "today we are all Americans" whenever quipped that at least one real American was present.

Where?

That is the best part.

His statute should greet all those entering the newly christened "Fort Parker" previously known as Fort Bragg, a Confederate General that Gen Parker helped defeat.

[PufPuf23]

29. National American Indian Memorial

Interesting and forgotten piece of history.

from wiki:

The National American Indian Memorial was a proposed monument to American Indians to be erected on a bluff overlooking the Narrows, the main entrance to New York Harbor. The major part of the memorial was to be a 165-foot-tall (50 m) statue of a representative American Indian warrior atop a substantial foundation building housing a museum of native cultures, similar in scale to, but higher than, the Statue of Liberty several miles to the north. Ground was broken to begin construction in 1913 but the project was never completed and no physical trace remains today.

Location

The memorial was to be erected on the site of Fort Tompkins on Staten Island, New York, United States. Fort Tompkins, a component of the larger Fort Wadsworth, is located on a bluff high above the west side of the Narrows. It was and still is owned by the federal government. For many years Fort Wadsworth, along with Fort Hamilton on the east shore of the Narrows, provided harbor defense for New York City. Virtually all ocean-going ships destined for New York pass the site, so the monument would have been highly visible to visitors, seen well before the Statue of Liberty would come into view.

History

The project was the brainchild of Rodman Wanamaker, scion of the Wanamaker department store family, and "Doctor" Joseph Kossuth Dixon, head of the retail chain's education department. In 1909 Wanamaker proposed the privately funded memorial at a banquet in New York attended by Buffalo Bill Cody among others. On April 4, 1911, Congress adopted an Act to set aside the federal land needed for the project but did not otherwise provide for any expenses.

Sculptor Daniel Chester French and architect Thomas Hastings, both already well known at the time, came up with a general concept and sketch of the memorial, which included the statue of an Indian standing on an Aztec-like pyramid base atop an Egyptian Revival complex of museums, galleries and libraries, surrounded by a stepped plaza and formal gardens with sculptures of bison and Indians on horseback.

On a rainy Washington's Birthday in 1913, President William Howard Taft broke ground with a silver spade amidst a massive ceremony that included at least two 21-gun salutes from nearby Battery Weed and a naval gunboat. Also in attendance were 32 or 33 American Indian chiefs, including Red Hawk and Two Moons.

It was soon discovered, however, that Wanamaker was not to be the donor of the cost of the project, but rather its chief fundraiser. Very little money was actually raised, and newspapers that were originally supportive now called the project "philanthropic humbug." With the advent of World War I in 1914, enthusiasm for the unfunded project on the site of a harbor defense installation waned. A bronze plaque that marked the site of the ground-breaking was gone by the 1960s at the latest.

Recently a local Native American group called The Red Storm Drum & Dance Troupe has reached out to President Donald Trump to revive the project, suggesting one on a smaller scale (the new statue, to be erected by sculptor Gregory Perillo, would be only 25 feet tall) than originally proposed.[1] !!!!!!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_American_Indian_Memorial

[Quixote1818]

30. Some women too. Pocahontas, Sacajawea, Pine Leaf, etc. nt

[maxsolomon]

31. Chief Sealth (Seattle) has a statue in downtown Seattle, right in Pioneer Square

He led the massacre of a entire tribe, the Chimakum, in 1847, and enslaved the surviving women and children.

I'm waiting for that conversation to start; should be fun...

[LanternWaste]

34. You just advertised your own character as well as your priorities within the greater conversation.

"should be fun..."

[lastlib]

32. Chief Joseph!!

A few quotes:

I hope that no more groans of wounded men and women will ever go to the ear of the Great Spirit Chief above, and that all people may be one people.

The first white men of your people who came to our country were named Lewis and Clark. They brought many things that our people had never seen. They talked straight. These men were very kind.

I pressed my father's hand and told him I would protect his grave with my life. My father smiled and passed away to the spirit land.

Hear me, my chiefs! I am tired. My heart is sick and sad. From where the sun now stands, I will fight no more forever.

When an Indian fights, he only shoots to kill.

Our people could not talk with these white-faced men, but they used signs which all people understand.

Words do not pay for my dead people.

We gave up some of our country to the white men, thinking that then we could have peace. We were mistaken. The white man would not let us alone.

[LanternWaste]

33. I'm not really in any place to instruct the Native Americans who, or what, to honor.

I think I'd defer to the collective sentiments of the Native Americans.

[Warren_Pointe]

36. Ira Hayes

Though being a Pima Indian was only one of his attributes.