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struggle4progress

(118,356 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:51 PM Jul 2020

Arizona ICUs at 91% capacity

Ella Torres and William Mansell
July 3, 2020, 2:54 PM

... Hospitalizations and ICU capacity reached new highs in Arizona, according to the state's health department.

There were 3,013 current hospitalizations in the state and the ICU capacity hit 91%.

There were also an additional 4,433 new COVID-19 cases, resulting in 91,858 total cases. An additional 31 people died, bringing the total to 1,788 ...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronavirus-updates-arizona-bar-allowed-employees-covid-19/story?id=71587798

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Arizona ICUs at 91% capacity (Original Post) struggle4progress Jul 2020 OP
It didn't have to be this bad kimbutgar Jul 2020 #1
And the first question should be, "Baseline or with expanded capacity included?" Igel Jul 2020 #2
Ducey enid602 Jul 2020 #3
No churches closed. He didn't close restaurants either. sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #4
retaurants enid602 Jul 2020 #5
I've seen about voluntary closures, but Ducey's order didn't mention restaurants, only bars sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #6
Gym enid602 Jul 2020 #7
16 oz curls nt sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #8
+1, unless Ducey stops all mobility in the state it will get worse uponit7771 Jul 2020 #9

kimbutgar

(21,206 posts)
1. It didn't have to be this bad
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jul 2020

Duchey really f’ed up By not locking down the state and requiring the wearing of masks.

My mother in law lives in sun city west and I worry about her safety. She wears masks but has a daughter who’s adult children think corona virus is a hoax and won’t wear masks.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
2. And the first question should be, "Baseline or with expanded capacity included?"
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:26 PM
Jul 2020

ICU beds are really expensive. To keep them up and keep them empty at 20% capacity isn't something anybody should do.

It's like having relatives that visit every 10 years, so you need to keep the extra 5 bedrooms ready, make sure there's food for that many extra people, etc.

You get slammed with relatives, cots and sleeping bags on the living room floor suffice for a few days. you don't need the extra 750-1200 sq ft furnished, cleaned, and air-conditioned/heated just in case.

It's the "panic now!" trick. Here in Houston last year well over half of the ICU beds were occupied. No flu. No COVID. Just what was needed for demand with a reasonable buffer for bad incidents. What pushed the ICU beds in Houston "over capacity" was when 26% of them were COVID-filled. 3/4 were ICU beds taken up by everything else.

enid602

(8,657 posts)
3. Ducey
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jul 2020

When he recently re closed gyms and restaurants, did he close down churches as well? I can't find any mention of that. The one church where trump recently had his super spreader event actually has 5 locations around the Valley. That's a lot of community spread.

sweetloukillbot

(11,070 posts)
4. No churches closed. He didn't close restaurants either.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jul 2020

It was gyms, water parks and bars. And gyms are suing over it.
The good thing is that they are yanking liquor licenses - so at least they're semi-serious. Two months too late, of course...

enid602

(8,657 posts)
5. retaurants
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jul 2020

They've re closed a whole bunch of the restaurants they'd previously reopened, as they traced cases of Covid to them. I live in Central Phoenix, and haven't seen a single retaurant open lately. Not that I'm looking.

sweetloukillbot

(11,070 posts)
6. I've seen about voluntary closures, but Ducey's order didn't mention restaurants, only bars
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:15 PM
Jul 2020

There were a bunch in Arcadia that shut down after staff tested positive. I'm seeing a lot switching back to delivery/carry out only.

The biggest thing I've wondered about is the gym that had it's liquor license taken away. Why does a gym need a liquor license?

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