'We've got to do something': Republican rebels come together to take on Trump

[babylonsister]

'We've got to do something': Republican rebels come together to take on Trump
A slew of organized Republican groups have sprung up to do all they can to defeat Trump in November. Will their effort work?
Daniel Strauss in Washington
Published on Sun 5 Jul 2020 05.00 EDT


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The latest prominent Republican anti-Trump organization made its debut in early July. It’s a Super Pac called 43 Alumni for Biden, and aims to rally alumni of George W Bush’s administration to support the Democrat.

The new Super Pac was co-founded by Kristopher Purcell, a former Bush administration official; John Farner, who worked in the commerce department during the Bush administration; and Karen Kirksey, another longtime Republican operative. Kirksey is the Super Pac’s director.

“We’re truly a grassroots organization. Our goal is to do whatever we can to elect Joe Biden as president,” said Farner.

The Super Pac is still in its early stages and isn’t setting expectations on raising something like $20m. Rather, 43 Alumni for Biden is just focused on organizing.

“After seeing three and a half years of chaos and incompetence and division, a lot of people have just been pushed to say, ‘We have got to do something else,” Purcell said. “We may not be fully on board with the Democratic agenda, but this is a one-issue election. ‘Are you for Donald Trump, or are you for America.’”

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/05/republican-rebels-trump-biden-november-election

[Laelth]

1. Fascinating.

I suspect that I will want to say more about this in a separate thread.

-Laelth

[Clash City Rocker]

2. The article mentions three Republican groups supporting Biden, but there's a fourth

It’s called Right Side PAC. Scaramucci is part of it.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-operatives-launch-super-pac-target-anti-trump/story?id=71300904

[Chainfire]

3. Rats and ships

[calimary]

35. As much as some (maybe many) of us would like to just forgive and forget and embrace

I’d just like to keep a very important reminder up front:

They BUILT this.

They all did. ANYBODY who calls him/herself a “Republican” HELPED BUILD THIS.

They wanted power, domination, and all the marbles in the Judicial branch, if not also throughout the Legislative branch AND state & local government.

They just didn’t count on the delivery boy who’d bring all these most-cherished wet dreams to their front door. He’s the most vile, disgusting, ugly, selfish, disgraceful, thoroughly UN-American and downright traitorous and TREASONOUS excuse for a male human as ever walked the earth.

[J_William_Ryan]

4. Let's hope

more Republicans of good faith join the effort to vote Trump out of office.

[BComplex]

5. I'm really glad to know there are still some sane republicans besides the lincoln project. However,

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Dems need to move this nation forward on a much better long term basis.

Mitch McConnell and his extremists in the senate have damaged this country beyond repair with all those right wing judges. We might be rid of trump some day, but we won't be rid of the stink he is leaving behind for generations.

I still don't want republicans to win "down ticket".

[KPN]

7. Well put. I'm with you.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

15. +1

Exactly

[Capperdan]

6. Please get rid of Mitch

I hope they channel some dough against the chinless turtle

[hibbing]

8. He has tremendous support in the party

I'm for all the help we can get, but Trump has huge approval ratings from the party. the party is Trump.

Peace

[paleotn]

9. Endorsing down ticket...

Interesting. I wasn't aware Lincoln Project was doing that. Trying to clean up their own house perhaps? About time.

[lastlib]

26. They have run ads against McTurdle (and I think acouple of others....)

the prime enablers.

Personally, my money is with these folks

[ClusterFreak]

10. This is all good, but...

...wouldn't it be nice if, just for once, an organized group of Republicans - oh let's say... current sitting members of Congress - would 'come together' in this way.

Wayyyy too much to ask. However, to these former Dubbya people on board with Biden I say welcome, and thanks.

[Tiger8]

11. We don't need them!

Trump is their Frankenstein monster who took over the Republican laboratory.

For decades, that laboratory used Limbaugh, Fox News, etc. to rile up the MAGA blockheads. But Trump is burning it all to the ground. Let it burn.

[HotTeaBag]

19. Yes we do.

I'm all for Trump taking down the Republican party as it's now constructed. Problem is, he's the President of ALL of America and he's taking the ENTIRE country with him, not 'just' the Republicans.

We need help from every single quarter from which it's being offered.

[Tiger8]

30. My point is they created Frankenstein Trump

They refuse to take responsibility or blame for creating the forces that gave us Trump.

-Fox News
-Limbaugh
-The Religious Right
-Hannity
-Coulter
-etc, etc.

Will they help dismantle this dangerous right wing media machine that they created?

My guess is no, so only a matter of time before another Trump breaks loose from the laboratory. Remember, these are the people who gave us Reagan, Bush, Gingrich, etc. Trump is just a more uncouth, unpolished version.

If a Pit Bull trainer loses control of an attack dog he's trained and he's killing people, of course you welcome their help to restrain the dog. But they are not your friend, and must be held accountable too. When I see ads also disputing the credibility of the right wing media that got Trump elected, then I will change my mind.

[elleng]

20. Yes we do, and to say we don't need them is foolish.

[BComplex]

21. I agree Tiger8. The problem is they're burning the whole constitution down with them.

Maybe it's time to rewrite the darned thing, and make sure ALL people are created equal, and that CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE!!

[Tiger8]

31. Thank you! This is exactly my point

These "good" Republicans are like mad scientists who played with dangerous chemicals (FOX, Limbaugh, etc) to lure voters by appealing to their worst, tribal instincts.

Trump is no different than they are.....their problem with him is not policy....but rather that he's just more uncloaked about it than Reagan, Bush, Gingrich, McConnell, Paul Ryan, and other climate change deniers, theocrats, vulture capitalists, etc.

[Volaris]

12. That last quote is a problem for me.

If they're not willing to also openly repudiate the 50 years of Republican agenda that WE WARNED THEM WOULD LEAD US HERE, all they're doing is short-term ass-covering. And that's not enough.

They SHOULD be openly calling for medicare for all, on the argument that it's good for American Business, even if American Business cant see that yet.

They SHOULD be openly calling for an end to the war on drugs, as an advancement of their libertarian principals.

They SHOULD be openly calling for police reform, as an argument that 'smaller government' means a government less capable of implementing systemic rascism.

They SHOULD be openly calling for the destruction of the party of Richard Nixon, so they can at least TRY to be the Party of Lincoln.

I'm glad they're finally on our side on this ONE ISSUE. That's not the same as all of us, being on theirs.

[lastlib]

16. yeah, you are on the money here.

Accept their help, where it helps, but be ready to kick 'em to the curb after November 3.

[Bev54]

13. Be very cautious of some of these people

like Bill Kristol wants to put Pence in now and campaign for him to win 4 more years. Pence in no better than Trump.

[BComplex]

22. Bill Kristol is a republican tool, and I don't know why MSNBC is so in love with him.

He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. So is David Frum.

[Bev54]

24. Yes Frum is a Canadian conservative

who joined the Republicans when he moved to the US. His Mom was a very well respected News Broadcaster in Canada but I have no use for him.

[lastlib]

14. They don't SOUND very "grass-roots" to me.....

"alumni of the GWBush administration"
"former Bush administration official"
"longtime Republican operative"
"worked in the commerce department during the Bush administration"

Say WHUUUT?? I mean, I'll take their assistance in kicking that wretched pile of human flotsam out of the White House, but.......it's kinda like Stalin working with Churchill, I guess. But where were these people during the impeachment?

[BComplex]

23. Right on, lastlib. The bush administration pushed fox, limbaugh and moscow mitch the whole

time. They got the US into THREE f***ing wars, and brought the country to the very brink of economic devastation. If Obama had been any other human being who ascended to the white house, we surely would have plunged into a huge depression. Obama was a genius. Still is... and he saved our asses.

What Obama DID NOT DO, was reinstate the fairness doctrine and clean up the voting mess. That's how trump got in.

We have GOT TO secure our votes. Before we do one more thing. I think that was the reason so many people never felt like participating in our democracy; it just never made sense as to who was getting elected, because the voting machines have been hackable or programmed for mischief, and all the districts gerrymandered.

[lastlib]

27. YES! agree wholeheartedly!

I think we need a Constitutional amendment to guarantee EVERY person's right to VOTE, and to have their vote COUNTED! In addition to what you're saying. End gerrymandering, secure voting machines with paper trails, stop vote suppression! AND overturn Citizens United and get money the F*CK out of our elections!

[BComplex]

28. I forgot about that, but YES!! GET THE MONEY OUT OF OUR ELECTIONS!!

And we don't need presidential elections to run for 18 months to 2 years. Other countries do their elections in about 6 months. That's more than plenty.

[Warpy]

17. Astroturf Republicans always think they're grassroots

but these people are largely following the desertion that has already taken place, especially among women in the suburbs.

I might view them a bit differently if I thought there was a real change going on, but there isn't. It doesn't take much to realize Dumdum is an existential threat to this country. It would take a lot more for them to realize he's a symptom of their own problems than the root cause of them.

All these people still believe in the two major fallacies destroying this country, that the end justifies the means and that economies (and everything else, honestly) work from the top down, so the bottom can safely be ignored. Getting rid of the major symptom is not going to cure the disease and they will continue to poison this country after the major symptom is hidden under a bandaid.

[BComplex]

29. What he/she said!!! YES!!

Way to go Warpy! They don't get that the premise of their entire philosophy is what is screwed up. They inherited that, and a type of mental herpes that won't go away, from Reagan.

[certainot]

18. they're basically full of shit if they don't give rw radio and limbaugh most blame

[Ligyron]

25. " economies (snip) work from the top down, so the bottom can safely be ignored."

That the economy came to a crashing halt when the "bottom" either got laid off, quarantined themselves and their money or both, ought to clearly demonstrate and put proof to the lie that "trickle down" economics actually works.

[BComplex]

32. It sure did. "Essential workers" aren't so essential unless we're having a pandemic.

That was part of what lead us to the place where, when George Floyd was murdered, it all became so friggin' clear what was going on in this country, socially, economically, LEGALLY (!!! Cops getting to kill citizens with impunity!), and politically. George Floyd will always be, to me, the angel that tore the scab off the wound of the United States, and let everyone see the putrid infection underneath.

He truly gave his life for his country.

[Ligyron]

34. Amen!

[lindysalsagal]

33. Too little too late, enablers. You did this. Frump just took credit

They have to gettit that they are the problem.