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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 09:47 AM Jul 2020

Oh, good. There's a bubonic plague outbreak

I was just thinking that 2020 was getting a little boring.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/06/asia/china-mongolia-bubonic-plague-intl-hnk-scli-scn/index.html

Authorities in the Chinese region of Inner Mongolia are on high alert after a suspected case of bubonic plague, the disease that caused the Black Death pandemic, was reported Sunday.

The case was discovered in the city of Bayannur, located northwest of Beijing, according to state-run Xinhua news agency. A hospital alerted municipal authorities of the patient's case on Saturday. By Sunday, local authorities had issued a citywide Level 3 warning for plague prevention, the second lowest in a four-level system. The warning will stay in place until the end of the year, according to Xinhua.

Plague, caused by bacteria and transmitted through flea bites and infected animals, is one of the deadliest bacterial infections in human history. During the Black Death in the Middle Ages, it killed an estimated 50 million people in Europe. Modern antibiotics can prevent complications and death if administered quickly enough.

Bubonic plague, which is one of plague's three forms, causes painful, swollen lymph nodes, as well as fever, chills, and coughing.
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Oh, good. There's a bubonic plague outbreak (Original Post) Recursion Jul 2020 OP
There is also a Swine Flu detected again in China. pdxflyboy Jul 2020 #1
Yes, and a new Ebola outbreak in central Africa Recursion Jul 2020 #4
Mother Nature to humans: central scrutinizer Jul 2020 #9
Bingo. geardaddy Jul 2020 #36
Oh my gawd. . . Iliyah Jul 2020 #2
It's always been in the US essme Jul 2020 #3
Yeah, New Mexico, right? Recursion Jul 2020 #6
Nope. Asheville, NC essme Jul 2020 #8
I read your link, but saw nothing about NC. cwydro Jul 2020 #10
Hantavirus? Quemado Jul 2020 #17
I remember that. It was found (or believed) to have been caused... C Moon Jul 2020 #37
It's endemic to New Mexico, and most years we get a handful of cases. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #44
They find it nearly every year in San Diego MR. ELECTABLE Jul 2020 #21
Yeah, we've learned contain and treat it, wnylib Jul 2020 #26
Fleas in Arizona have it. drmeow Jul 2020 #51
Doxycycline kills it. dalton99a Jul 2020 #5
Bleach probably works also. yellowcanine Jul 2020 #20
Thank you. I was thinking, at least we know how to treat it. Nt raccoon Jul 2020 #50
Here's an article from last year: essme Jul 2020 #7
If caught early it is easily treatable. AJT Jul 2020 #11
Yeah, but given where we live, guaranteed we'll run out of it early. nt LAS14 Jul 2020 #18
Yea, tRumpie has probably sold off the government stockpile to his cronies. KS Toronado Jul 2020 #30
I recall, it was '17 and I was driving west to photograph the eclipse. Anyways,... 3Hotdogs Jul 2020 #12
WTF ???? I'm sorry, but China is pretty much a totalitarian state. Why aren't they doing more BComplex Jul 2020 #13
Totalitarian doesn't mean well run or efficient. Caliman73 Jul 2020 #22
Rats, gophers, marmots, chipmunks, ground squirrels - all are reservoirs of plague bacteria hatrack Jul 2020 #42
Starting to know how they felt in Florence in 1348: Black Death lindysalsagal Jul 2020 #14
Damn! What else can fu_king happen? Please don't let this... brush Jul 2020 #15
It's been here since I can recall... 2naSalit Jul 2020 #23
Well...,..(glances at the End of Mankind bingo card) dixiegrrrrl Jul 2020 #47
Not with a bang but a whimper cyclonefence Jul 2020 #16
Relax, everybody. As dalton99a pointed out above, doxycycline can kill it. Aristus Jul 2020 #19
I also heard there are locusts somewhere. gab13by13 Jul 2020 #24
Several places are experiencing wnylib Jul 2020 #32
Let's focus on good news Traildogbob Jul 2020 #25
_ LudwigPastorius Jul 2020 #27
+100 live love laugh Jul 2020 #40
No social distancing. No social distancing. Dios Mio Jul 2020 #28
Nah, it'll be fine Mercurian Jul 2020 #29
I came dressed for the occasion. Renew Deal Jul 2020 #31
Is it carried by Murder Hornets? kairos12 Jul 2020 #33
Probably nt live love laugh Jul 2020 #38
Probably not. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #45
only near olive garden restaurants. Voltaire2 Jul 2020 #48
good thing there aren't locusts... Historic NY Jul 2020 #34
From time to time, dead squirrels have been found with it in Southern California. C Moon Jul 2020 #35
There alway is and it's usually a lot closer than Mongolia Warpy Jul 2020 #39
Right, that's an endemic situation, which is different from an outbreak Recursion Jul 2020 #41
"...think I'll go for a walk...I feel happy! I feel..."* bringthePaine Jul 2020 #43
Marmots Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 #46
We used to hike in the mountains of Yosemite National Park. marie999 Jul 2020 #49

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Oh my gawd. . .
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 09:51 AM
Jul 2020

Pig Flu and now this from China? Geez wiz, and with this current illegal government with an illegal person in the WH, GOD HELP US.

essme

(1,207 posts)
8. Nope. Asheville, NC
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jul 2020

it's not unheard of; people just freak out and imagine a wagon going down the street with someone yelling, "Bring out your dead!". I posted a link below.

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
37. I remember that. It was found (or believed) to have been caused...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jul 2020

by breathing in areas (like sheds) where there were lots of mouse feces.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,908 posts)
44. It's endemic to New Mexico, and most years we get a handful of cases.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:56 PM
Jul 2020

Doctors here are aware of it, and are likely to diagnose quickly and correctly. People who visit, manage to get it, then return home, may not be so lucky.

Albuquerque has a science fiction con every year in August (not this year, however) called Bubonicon. And as I tell people, the name means exactly what it thinks you mean.

MR. ELECTABLE

(218 posts)
21. They find it nearly every year in San Diego
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:42 AM
Jul 2020

They usually find it in squirrels in our area. They find it nearly every year when they randomly test animals.

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/deh/pests/plague.html

wnylib

(21,654 posts)
26. Yeah, we've learned contain and treat it,
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:33 AM
Jul 2020

but the old pandemic that first started nearly 7 centuries ago still can create fear in people.

drmeow

(5,027 posts)
51. Fleas in Arizona have it.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jul 2020

My understanding is that there are a handful of cases/year in the US and about 1000 or so world wide.

3Hotdogs

(12,437 posts)
12. I recall, it was '17 and I was driving west to photograph the eclipse. Anyways,...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:05 AM
Jul 2020

I stopped at Badlands National Park. On the road is a colony of Prairie Dogs. Sign on the edge of the roadway, do not enter the colony. Plague exists.

Let me know if I need to continue the narrative.

BComplex

(8,073 posts)
13. WTF ???? I'm sorry, but China is pretty much a totalitarian state. Why aren't they doing more
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:09 AM
Jul 2020

to stop all these horrible plagues and pandemics? Are all these coming out of China because they have so many people, or what?

Caliman73

(11,751 posts)
22. Totalitarian doesn't mean well run or efficient.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jul 2020

They have these outbreaks because they have a great deal of land, a lot of people, densely packed in, and they are expanding into areas where there has been little human settlement.

Totalitarian governments are mostly about maintaining power, not about helping people. Like Trump, the goal is more to cover up information that will make them look bad than to jump in and take care of problems quickly.

hatrack

(59,593 posts)
42. Rats, gophers, marmots, chipmunks, ground squirrels - all are reservoirs of plague bacteria
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jul 2020

Here in the US, too, though mostly in western states.

It's just . . . out there, but in animal species we usually don't have much contact with.

https://www.cdc.gov/plague/transmission/index.html

lindysalsagal

(20,747 posts)
14. Starting to know how they felt in Florence in 1348: Black Death
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:09 AM
Jul 2020

Wiped out 80% of them, and started the renaissance. It might be worth it if humans evolved into caring, compassionate beings....

brush

(53,922 posts)
15. Damn! What else can fu_king happen? Please don't let this...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:13 AM
Jul 2020

get over here. We've already seen how trump will let it run rampant here too.

2naSalit

(86,831 posts)
23. It's been here since I can recall...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jul 2020

and we have Hanta virus warnings every year in my state. I know several people who have had it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
47. Well...,..(glances at the End of Mankind bingo card)
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020


The Yellowstone Park eruption space is still open........

Aristus

(66,477 posts)
19. Relax, everybody. As dalton99a pointed out above, doxycycline can kill it.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jul 2020

Pretty easily, too. Although Yersinia pestis killed more people than almost any other plague in history due to its virulence, it doesn't last long against anti-microbials. As deadly as the disease itself is, the microbe chuckles weakly when faced with tetracyclines, then throws up the surrender flag.

We'll be all right as long as we don't get a huge crowd of assholes storming city halls loudly proclaiming their right to die a horrible agonizing death with swollen groins and armpits.

wnylib

(21,654 posts)
32. Several places are experiencing
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jul 2020

plagues of desert locusts, but it's worst in eastern Africa right now - Kenya, Ethiopia, and Somalia.

Traildogbob

(8,830 posts)
25. Let's focus on good news
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jul 2020

In a time of mother nature’s rage. There is a brain eating amoeba in Florida. Obviously it will die off of starvation before the country has to worry.

Mercurian

(48 posts)
29. Nah, it'll be fine
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:36 AM
Jul 2020

The bubonic strain can only spread if the fleas that spread it have the opportunity to reinfect themselves from the source periodically. That worked brilliantly in the 14th Century because the infected rats travelled with the infection. Unless/until Mongolian marmots start stowing away on Chinese airlines the rest of the world is pretty safe.
Pneumonic plague on the other hand..

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,908 posts)
45. Probably not.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:58 PM
Jul 2020

It's carried by fleas, and I suspect fleas don't live on murder hornets.

Of course, I might have missed that you were being sarcastic.

Warpy

(111,371 posts)
39. There alway is and it's usually a lot closer than Mongolia
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jul 2020

The west and southwest see a few cases every year. It's endemic here, the fleas hitching a ride on cats and dogs. It's curable if caught early.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
41. Right, that's an endemic situation, which is different from an outbreak
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jul 2020

An outbreak means the disease has expanded from the areas where it is normally endemic.

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