Boy what a difference between Rachel's overview of Mary Trump's book, and Maggie Haberman's

[still_one]

overview on Anderson Cooper‘s show

Haberman really diminished the actions of trump and his family implying it is nothing new

Rachel and Suzanne Craig exposed just how bad the actions of the whole trump family are. In my view it is a bombshell, and why trump is doing everything to stop the book, and arguing that the SC should not allow release of his tax returns

If those tax returns are what the book lays out are valid, trump should be going to jail, and why it is becoming clear that trump will not go easy if he loses the election

[BigmanPigman]

1. Never was a Haberman fan.

She acts like a know-it-all and an ass kisser.

[still_one]

2. Perfect description, especially the "know it all " description"

[Thekaspervote]

36. Yup! A really second rate journalist..if that. Lacks any intuitive skills, flat uninteresting op eds

Was so disgusted after her calling Biden, well I won’t go there ....I don’t care if I ever read their paper again

[mercuryblues]

45. Never forget. Maggie's Mom worked PR for the trump family

Nancy Haberman, Maggie’s mother, works for the PR firm, Rubenstein

Howard Rubenstein’s work history with the Trump family began early with Fred Trump. Then in 1990, when Donald and Ivana were going through their divorce, Rubenstein took on Donald’s personal PR – doing the dirty work of spinning that nasty mess into something that wouldn’t tarnish Donald’s name and brand irreparably

But the Rubenstein firms’ ties and access to the Trump administration don’t stop with the Trumps. JARED KUSHNER is another high-profile Rubenstein client. And Jared’s relationship with Howard appears far more intimate.

So, Maggie Haberman has a powerful parent, who’s connected to all the inside dirt on Donald Trump, his family, his business, Jared Kushner, Jared’s family, Jared’s business, and Nancy is paid to spin all this dirt into PR gold. We’d call that… access.



But Maggie’s “job” is JOURNALISM, not PR. Journalistic objectivity requires detachment. It requires cold, hard facts. The kind of PR Maggie would have to do for real estate developers connected to the mafia, and/or sons who visit fathers in the federal penitentiary, is not the best look for the NYTimes – arguably the world’s most prestigious journalism brand. But it is the PR relationships that give Maggie her access. And if she doesn’t do the bidding of the spin masters – the bidding of their clients, she loses her access to them.


Much more at (with links): http://www.citjourno.org/maggie3

[BigmanPigman]

47. That certainly could put a certain slant to her objective reporting.

[Me.]

3. Haberman Is The Judith Miller Of THis Century

[underpants]

8. And she brings a special excitement to the screen

A ball of energy and charisma that one.

[Kid Berwyn]

13. NYT Peter Baker also normalizes Trump evil.

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Weird, how they are that way.

[Cha]

17. Baker & Haberman are enablers of the Treasonous Asshole who

ignores Putin's Bounty on American & UK Soldiers. They deserve the same as what happened to the Nazi sympathizers.

Link to tweet

[Kid Berwyn]

33. Journalists have an obligation under the Constitution...

From publishers to the interns in the mail room, tell the truth as you see it. Unfortunately, the business of journalism makes obfuscation of the conservative hypocrisy routine. Thankfully, their words stand as witnesses.

Right message, wrong messenger: NYT’s Peter Baker decries the ‘normalization’ of Trump’s presidency

Dan Froomkin
PressWatchers.org, June 20, 2020

In Friday’s New York Times, the paper’s White House bureau chief, Peter Baker, tut-tutted the “normalization” of Donald Trump’s presidency – as if he himself, along with his colleagues, weren’t among the people most responsible for it.

Snip...

I try hard not to take strong positions on public issues even in private… For me, it’s easier to stay out of the fray if I never make up my mind, even in the privacy of the kitchen or the voting booth, that one candidate is better than another, that one side is right and the other wrong.

Continues....

https://presswatchers.org/2020/06/right-message-wrong-messenger-nyts-peter-baker-decries-the-normalization-of-trumps-presidency/

I am sorry to have posted a falsehood, Cha. I misheard someone on MSNBC say Haberman and Baker were married.

[Cha]

37. That's okay. Thank you for letting me know.

I knew nothing about Baker and have just read a lot on Twitter & DU, and Haberman's own words to know what she's about.

Some times Maggie seems to call out trump but Not enough.

Sounds like from this article that Baker talks out of both sides of his mouth. This is from June 20th. wonder how he's feeling about how "normal" trump is now?

[Me.]

43. +2

[Cha]

44. Aloha, Me!

to an early bird from a night owl!

[ucralum]

18. Maggie Haberman is married to Dareh Gregorian

...and Peter Baker is married to Susan Glasser.

[renate]

26. Whew! Thank you!

I like Peter and Susan.

[Kid Berwyn]

30. Thank you! My mistake. NT

[ucralum]

38. No problem

I had just looked up Peter Baker the other day, so the info was fresh in my mind.

[Me.]

42. Ashley Parker Also Has A Tendency To Do That

[dalton99a]

28. +1. Haberman is Trump's PR specialist pretending to be a journalist

Her job is to minimize damage and normalize Trump as much as possible

[jcgoldie]

4. Maggie Haberman is a professional Trump normalizer

... she's been doing it for 4 years. She has perfected the art of being just critical enough on occasion not to seem like a Trump stooge, but that's exactly what she is.

[still_one]

5. +++

[jrthin]

7. This!

[arthritisR_US]

11. She has been tied to that orange shitgibbon

long before he got into office. Her parents have been tied to him for decades.

[certainot]

25. so trump family dysfunction/corruption seems normal to her

[jrthin]

6. I thought the same thing. Haberman, another Judith Miller in so many ways.

I bet she didn't even read the book.

[underpants]

9. I saw Haberman on AC

Didn’t really listen. She did say something about “we’ve known this” saying it like she was talking about her favorite plastic fork.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. But but,I am the expert cause my

Mommy works in the White House don't yah know.

[still_one]

22. Which is untrue. That Mary Trump gave the boxes of family files from the trump lawyer to the

investigative journalist Suzanne Craig, demonstrated just how inadequate Haberman's comment was

[Hassler]

12. Hackerman is a legacy reporter. The Dubya of reporting.

[JI7]

16. yup, and her reporting on Trump is all about being the insider and access

part of that group and all that shit instead of an actual reporter.

[Grey]

14. Rachel did an excellent Review.

The first half of her show was a blockbuster. Love her lock-down hair cut as well.

[still_one]

19. Absolutely. That Mary Trump had those boxes of evidence from the family lawyer that

she gave to Suzanne Craig really is the smoking gun

[JI7]

15. Haberman is worse than Fox News

[still_one]

20. I wouldn't go that far, but in my view really shallow

[JI7]

21. She has more credibility . Most people already know Fox News is a right wing joke

So they don't have credibility among most people who aren't already right wing idiots.

But with Haberman I can see someone who thinks Fox is too extreme seeing her and being convinced things aren't so bad with Trump.

[still_one]

23. Thanks, now I understand what you are saying

[Hekate]

24. Rachel was superb, & I can hardly wait to get the book from the Library...

Funny how different people get different things from these reports. As of yesterday, snippets were out, and there was a whole thread of folks kvetching that we already knew all this stuff, & if there wasn’t more than that, why bother publishing this book now?

Now we know why.

[still_one]

27. I agree. I have a feeling lot of the reporting will be around the SAT test, but that isn't even the

major issue

This book I will buy also. The Bolton book I wouldn't buy, and didn't watch any of his interviews

Mary Trump has hard evidence from the lawyers office that she gave to Suzanne Craig

No wonder trump doesn't want this released

[NJCher]

29. not to mention that

she is a PhD with credentials in exactly the area on which she is commenting.

Come to think of it, I cannot think of a better source.

[still_one]

35. Yes

[RockRaven]

31. Haberman's mother runs a PR firm who has had Trump businesses as a client...

It's a gross ethical breach by the NYT/CNN to allow her to report on Trump like they do without flagging every single article/appearance with a prominent disclaimer.

[dalton99a]

32. Yep.

[Champp]

40. How convenient. Sounds like a republican propaganda for payola setup

Similar to the way the Republicans are doling out vaults of Pandemic relief megabucks to Evangelical "Christian" "churches" Inc. to lock up prayers (votes) for their jaundiced Corporate Theocracy, Inc. (R).

[ecstatic]

34. I enjoyed Rachel's show but

Suzanne was dodging the questions. By doing so, she made it seem like she didn't agree with some of Mary's characterizations.

[OnDoutside]

39. I took it differently that she as Mary Trump was a source, she didn't want to directly address that

and Rachel was clear to state that she didn't want to get her to divulge source related stuff.

Great show last night though.

[PRETZEL]

46. I agree that Ms. Craig did as much as she could not to provide more

than what she probably really knows, but that is just my observation.

What I found most impressive was how Rachel broke down how Ms. Trump is planning on defending her decision to violate the NDA and that her and her family were essentially victims of fraud committed by the rest of the Trump family was very compelling.

And it now appears that she has the receipts to prove it.

[sunonmars]

41. She's no journalist, she's a treasonous hack supporting a traitor.