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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:48 PM Jul 2020

Trump's Attacks on Mail Voting May Backfire

Trump’s Attacks on Mail Voting May Backfire

July 7, 2020 at 7:21 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 127 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2020/07/07/trumps-attacks-on-mail-voting-may-backfire-2/

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“President Trump’s relentless attacks on the security of mail voting are driving suspicion among GOP voters toward absentee ballots — a dynamic alarming Republican strategists, who say it could undercut their own candidates, including Trump himself,” the Washington Post reports.

“In several primaries this spring, Democratic voters have embraced mail ballots in far larger numbers than Republicans during a campaign season defined by the coronavirus pandemic. And when they urge their supporters to vote by mail, GOP campaigns around the country are hearing from more and more Republican voters who say they do not trust absentee ballots… In one particularly vivid example, a group of Michigan voters held a public burning of their absentee ballot applications last month.”

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Trump's Attacks on Mail Voting May Backfire (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2020 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove Jul 2020 #1
I am very very worried about this... jimlup Jul 2020 #2
He'll claim there was massive fraud with or without mail-in voting. subterranean Jul 2020 #4
That is part of the reason I'm planning to vote in person jimlup Jul 2020 #5
some states install special drop boxes which are managed by the Elections Office yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #8
Yes, thank you jimlup Jul 2020 #11
He's going to do that no matter what you do. Renew Deal Jul 2020 #12
34 states, currently, have no excuse absentee voting. 5 of those are all mail. Hoyt Jul 2020 #3
here in TX we have to be over 65, disabled, out of the area for the entire yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #9
Excellent. I started voting by mail after standing in line for almost 8 hours in 2004. Hoyt Jul 2020 #14
I don't like voting by mail but voted by mail in the primary due to covid situation. LisaL Jul 2020 #16
In WA state, where I live, it's 100% mail in ballot. You can send it (postage free) through the fierywoman Jul 2020 #6
+1 applegrove Jul 2020 #7
Arizona has those drop boxes too. yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #10
On conservative sites I attack mail in voting Cicada Jul 2020 #13
Well, if republicans don't trust mail in voting, that's not really a problem, is it? LisaL Jul 2020 #15
It's still tough to vote by mail/absentee in Connecticut NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #17
I'm surprised how tough it is in some northern states to vote. My rube state has no excuse absentee Hoyt Jul 2020 #18
Even limited early voting seems so logical NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #20
Yep, old repugs not voting... JCMach1 Jul 2020 #19

Response to applegrove (Original post)

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
2. I am very very worried about this...
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:55 PM
Jul 2020

this is why I'm not voting by mail in November. I'll fucking stand in line behind a tidal wave if I have to but i don't want tRump having anything to claim illegitimacy of my vote.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
4. He'll claim there was massive fraud with or without mail-in voting.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:13 PM
Jul 2020

He did after the last election, and he won that one!

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
5. That is part of the reason I'm planning to vote in person
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:16 PM
Jul 2020

The other reason is that I think he might actually try to disrupt the postal service and thus disrupt the election right at the critical moment.

I'm not going to chance it. I'm voting in person in November come hell or high water!

yellowdogintexas

(22,256 posts)
8. some states install special drop boxes which are managed by the Elections Office
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:05 AM
Jul 2020

and not the USPS. These are state which have no reputation as vote supressors either and they have lots of practice.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. 34 states, currently, have no excuse absentee voting. 5 of those are all mail.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:01 PM
Jul 2020

Let trump keep up his crud, and he’ll get beaten by a landslide. Of course, local Democratic organizations have to push voting by mail, and help those who need it.

yellowdogintexas

(22,256 posts)
9. here in TX we have to be over 65, disabled, out of the area for the entire
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:13 AM
Jul 2020

early voting period through Election Day (about 15 days). Also persons in jail or convicted of a crime but not sentenced. We have to request an annual application to get the ballots.

However, for the past several election cycles, the Texas Democratic Party has been running a campaign to be sure every Democrat that can be identifed as such receives a vote by mail ballot appilication in January which allows enough time to get the application in and receive the first ballot. All vote by mail voters receive every ballot needed for the rest of the year. Our early voting numbers have increased every election cycle. Once you are on the TDP list, your applications come automatically. It's hard to identify members of a party here because we are an open primary state, so we have to use stats on folks who vote in D primaries.

Not everyone uses them but they still get them. Because we work elections, I save our applications in case something happens and we can't work....boy am I glad I did. DH isn't working the run off so I handed him his application and he has received his ballot.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
16. I don't like voting by mail but voted by mail in the primary due to covid situation.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:34 AM
Jul 2020

As covid situation is not likely to get any better in November (and there is every reason to believe it could get much worse), I intend to vote by mail again in the general election.

fierywoman

(7,684 posts)
6. In WA state, where I live, it's 100% mail in ballot. You can send it (postage free) through the
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 12:28 AM
Jul 2020

mail, or drop it off in a (very secure) designated drop box in your town. After a couple of days you can go online and see if they have received it. I love mail-in ballots: very secure and there's a paper trail of the ballot itself.

yellowdogintexas

(22,256 posts)
10. Arizona has those drop boxes too.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:14 AM
Jul 2020

Georgia had them for those who got their ballots in time and decided to use them. Friend sent a picture of the one she used and it was secure as hell

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
13. On conservative sites I attack mail in voting
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:05 AM
Jul 2020

I agree that mail in ballots might be thrown away, or stolen. I say no Trump voter should trust mail in ballots. Because I know many who don’t use mail in ballots will never make it to a vote in person site. It might rain or snow, it might be too cold, a voter might have to work late until the polls close, a voter might be too lazy to vote in person. Mail in voting increases voting turnout so for Trump leaning web sites my comments always stress that no Trump supporter should trust mail in voting. I admit I feel guilty when some Trump moron likes my comment. But I do it anyway.,

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
15. Well, if republicans don't trust mail in voting, that's not really a problem, is it?
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:31 AM
Jul 2020

They are welcome to not vote by mail. While the rest of us will (in states where it is allowed).

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. It's still tough to vote by mail/absentee in Connecticut
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jul 2020

They added "Covid-19" as another reason to get an absentee ballot, but you still need to certify that you can't vote on election day in order to get one.

No early voting in Connecticut, either.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. I'm surprised how tough it is in some northern states to vote. My rube state has no excuse absentee
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jul 2020

voting, almost 30 days of extended voting, everything including registration on-line, etc. I guess that is one area we excel, but not many others.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
20. Even limited early voting seems so logical
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jul 2020

My town of 18,000 will have 3 voting locations on election day in presidential years. For state & local elections/referendums and for primaries, there might be just 1 site. Don't see why having 1 site open each Sunday in October would be that big of a deal?

Almost never a line in my town despite good turnout, but the cities and larger suburbs do have some waits on election day.

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