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Coventina

(27,121 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:13 PM Jul 2020

I'm in a book club, we're reading "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo

I just finished chapter 1 (after reading Michael Eric Dyson's foreword, and the introduction).

Wow.

It's only Chapter 1 (and the introductory material) but what an amazingly accurate portrayal of what I see being enacted out loud and in real time since George Floyd's murder.

On edit: maybe it would be more accurate to say this behavior has become more explicit since November 2016.



I highly recommend this book to both white people and POC and BIPOC
Reading the reviews on Amazon is also an amazing display of white fragility.

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I'm in a book club, we're reading "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo (Original Post) Coventina Jul 2020 OP
I have to ask you what do you think about Tabbi's criticisms? JonLP24 Jul 2020 #1
Before I click on it, can you tell me how long it is? Coventina Jul 2020 #3
You can probably just read the opinion piece at the link JonLP24 Jul 2020 #4
Thanks for the suggestion. Coventina Jul 2020 #9
Good read. underpants Jul 2020 #8
I have that on my list. MuseRider Jul 2020 #2
Great book. I suggested it along with her writings here recently, guess what? tulipsandroses Jul 2020 #5
Yup. Coventina Jul 2020 #6
Good rec! Withywindle Jul 2020 #7
Good to hear. Horse with no Name Jul 2020 #10
I just started Eddie Glaude's cilla4progress Jul 2020 #11

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
1. I have to ask you what do you think about Tabbi's criticisms?
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jul 2020

I thought about starting a topic here but I figured it would be the same problem on Twitter -- people that never read the book commenting on it. I never read the book so I don't have an opinion other than a lot of the criticisms seems to prove the point of the book. This is a bigger discussion on Twitter than DU.

For background



https://taibbi.substack.com/p/on-white-fragility?r=7g0ku&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter

FTR Taibbi has been losing me in recent weeks as well as the show Rising.

I wanted to know people's thoughts on his criticisms.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
3. Before I click on it, can you tell me how long it is?
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:25 PM
Jul 2020

(I just want to know if I want to listen to it tonight or wait until tomorrow).

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
4. You can probably just read the opinion piece at the link
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:28 PM
Jul 2020

Which is probably quicker. The video is just him expanding his thoughts on the article. The video is 9 minutes.

I'm interested in people that read that book and what they think.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
9. Thanks for the suggestion.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jul 2020

I started reading the article carefully, and quickly came to the conclusion that in order to be fair to both parties, I will have to complete "White Fragility" - or at least read the sections from which he pulls his quotes.

Once I am able to do that, I will let you know! I will bookmark your post to remind myself!

underpants

(182,826 posts)
8. Good read.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:36 PM
Jul 2020

I saw the Fragility author on Fallon and wasn’t impressed. It sounded like mental soft serve.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
2. I have that on my list.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:21 PM
Jul 2020

Right now I am just starting White Trash. Apparently Rev. Al Sharpton put out a list. I cannot remember who I got if from on Facebook, one of my activist friends who I highly respect, but that was the first of maybe 5 books on the list.

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
5. Great book. I suggested it along with her writings here recently, guess what?
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:30 PM
Jul 2020

Predictably someone responded All white people are not fragile Thus making the point of the complete title- Why is it so hard for white people to talk about racism?

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
7. Good rec!
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:32 PM
Jul 2020

I feel that after a while it started to feel repetitive and not quite really getting to the heart of the matter? It's definitely good for helping people realize some things, and as a white writer, she can definitely reach some white people in a way that, sadly a POC might not.

Another one I liked even better is So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35099718-so-you-want-to-talk-about-race

A Black writer (with a white mother and she talks a lot about mixed-race families and the alienation racism can bring even between people who love each other) pulling no punches but still assuming good faith from white readers.

I've been reading them together and the combination is excellent.

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