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brooklynite

(94,600 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:50 AM Jul 2020

Biden Says Fracking Jobs Won't Be 'on the Chopping Block' If He's Elected

Newsweek

Democratic Presidential nominee Joe Biden has said, "Fracking is not going to be on the chopping block," if he's elected president, a statement which may rile left-leaning climate change activists and supporters of renewable energy.

An interviewer with Pennsylvanian ABC News affiliate WNEP, asked Biden, "We're losing a lot of jobs overseas, losing jobs to COVID-19, and if fracking is on the chopping block, how are you going to help these displaced workers?"

Biden responded, "Well, fracking is not going to be on the chopping block," Biden said. "Right now the president gives [an] advantage to companies that go overseas and invest overseas by reducing the taxes they have to pay on foreign profits. I'd double that tax and do that on day one."
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Biden Says Fracking Jobs Won't Be 'on the Chopping Block' If He's Elected (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2020 OP
His statement, really, has nothing to do with fracking. He's just saying he will take away Squinch Jul 2020 #1
Smarter to invest in green energy and make fossil fuels obsolete. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #2
We can return to thiis matter after election day Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #3
+1 Lulu KC Jul 2020 #4
I'm betting you are right. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2020 #6
I'm on a self-imposed gag order until after election day. aikoaiko Jul 2020 #7
How many jobs are in the fracking industry anyway? PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #5
Depends on the price of oil. aikoaiko Jul 2020 #8
in Pennsylvania... BGBD Jul 2020 #9
a lot more than are employed in renewables Amishman Jul 2020 #10
Thank you. I didn't bother to look it up, PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #12
Biden's "day one" list is going to be hairy 0rganism Jul 2020 #11

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
1. His statement, really, has nothing to do with fracking. He's just saying he will take away
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:52 AM
Jul 2020

the current advantage for companies to invest overseas.

The federal government has nothing to do with whether fracking jobs "are on the chopping block." Fracking's profitability has been decimated by the reduced oil consumption of the recent months. Companies are failing quickly. That will not stop. And what he is proposing will not slow or stop that process.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. Smarter to invest in green energy and make fossil fuels obsolete.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:55 AM
Jul 2020

Just like 100 years ago. People discovered that it was so much more convenient to own a car than a horse: no poop cleanup, no carcass disposal, no vet bills. Many of us will buy an electric car next time: dramatically lower service requirements (no oil changes, no transmission, exhaust system, brake shoes, etc).

President Wilson (no endorsement implied) didn't have to outlaw horses. People switched when something more practical came along.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
3. We can return to thiis matter after election day
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:18 AM
Jul 2020

I have to assume Biden is wary about losing votes in PA over banning fracking. There is plenty of opposition to fracking in PA, but also a whole lot of jobs associated with that practice, and therefor also sizable support for it. Meanwhile, if Biden isn't 100% better than Trump on the environment, he's at least 99.9% better than Trump on the environment.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
5. How many jobs are in the fracking industry anyway?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:43 AM
Jul 2020

I know that the renewable energy field's jobs are, or at least had been, growing by leaps and bounds.

Trying desperately to preserve jobs in a dying industry is pointless.

Think about telephone operators. In the early years of phones, every single call had to be placed through an operator. Then people could dial locally, but all long-distance calls had to go through an operator. Then we got direct dial within the country, but overseas calls needed to go through an operator, and lots of long-distance calls in this country still made use of an operator.

I went to work for Ma Bell in 1967. The woman who trained me had started some fifty years earlier as a teenager. She once said, and I expect this was accurate, that if all calls still needed to go through an operator, by 1967 essentially every woman in the country would need to be a telephone operator.

Progress, everyone, progress.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
8. Depends on the price of oil.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jul 2020

As I understand it, fracking is moderately expensive so the market price of oil has to be higher than average to make it pay.

But then it pays big.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
11. Biden's "day one" list is going to be hairy
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jul 2020

i hope he's not planning on sleeping after the inaugural celebrations, whatever they are

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