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denem

(11,045 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:17 AM Jul 2020

Mary Trump's book: A revelation that triggered Rick Wilson

donald would have Ivanka on his lap, and the two boys wrestling at his feet on the floor. When one the them was pinned down, he would kick him, and continue kicking him. (The psycho, pedophile sadism was unmistakeable).

As related in The New Abnormal podcast
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-silicon-valleys-sociopath-ceos-are-just-like-trump/id1508202790?i=1000484004483?i=1000484004483

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Mary Trump's book: A revelation that triggered Rick Wilson (Original Post) denem Jul 2020 OP
Yikes! n/t Laelth Jul 2020 #1
I do wonder if she was sexually abused. octoberlib Jul 2020 #2
His son's cries of pain denem Jul 2020 #4
I know the picture to which you are referring. 3catwoman3 Jul 2020 #7
totally agree Cat girl DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #31
and that was in PUBLIC! Locrian Jul 2020 #33
me too, up to a certain point DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #38
I share your restrains in this regard. I just don't think that it is appropriate. olegramps Jul 2020 #42
These photos from the inauguration are so inappropriate. octoberlib Jul 2020 #49
There are certainly no pictures like that of... 3catwoman3 Jul 2020 #50
I wouldn't put that past him. DinahMoeHum Jul 2020 #10
He has no conscience. No "right or wrong" mechanism. He's a hedonist. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2020 #28
Sociopaths most assuredly do not have a sense of right and wrong. 3catwoman3 Jul 2020 #54
I just flip a coin. Heads I lost so ...... I'll bet on it! usaf-vet Jul 2020 #18
Unfortunately, I don't think there's much to wonder about dlk Jul 2020 #20
Wonder? 2naSalit Jul 2020 #24
I have wondered if this is what Putin has on him. colorado_ufo Jul 2020 #26
Why hold it back? The revelation wouldn't change anything. Aristus Jul 2020 #36
There's also this ... RoadRising Jul 2020 #47
Omg, so disgusting! octoberlib Jul 2020 #48
He is Evil colsohlibgal Jul 2020 #3
I was wondering if Mary Trump's book would have anything on Ivanka essme Jul 2020 #5
Ivana is also under NDA as part of the divorce settlement. Greg K Jul 2020 #6
From the little I've heard, Ivana would not like how she's portrayed. Hortensis Jul 2020 #51
Which son did he kick? HipChick Jul 2020 #8
Whichever one was pinned down :( denem Jul 2020 #9
Donald was giving incentive to not be a LOSER. NCjack Jul 2020 #17
dysfunctional family bdamomma Jul 2020 #39
I blame the non-removal on 53 chickenshit Senators who refused to convict upon impeachment. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #55
What an evil POS! smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #45
The dumb one SledDriver Jul 2020 #11
Hah! Depending upon the week, that could be either. They keep flip-flopping. George II Jul 2020 #12
I'm guessing they caught their father's genes denem Jul 2020 #14
Personal theory... WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #37
Interesting! Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #56
My bio professor in college started me down that road, I think. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #60
The dumb one? So he kicked all of his sons? KS Toronado Jul 2020 #13
How do you tell the difference? rickyhall Jul 2020 #15
The Bundys were a warm, loving family compared to the Trumps. Dave Starsky Jul 2020 #29
Or Ted Bundy? Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #57
Wow! That man's been truly making the tough decisions his entire life. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #16
It really is a shame that Trump hasn't yet died of a massive stroke Orrex Jul 2020 #19
Every day's a new beginning... dlk Jul 2020 #21
That is my first hope every morning when I turn on MSNBC. It would be BREAKING NEWS... not_the_one Jul 2020 #23
Ah, but the day young! 2naSalit Jul 2020 #25
Noooooo Squidly Jul 2020 #58
I agree... 2naSalit Jul 2020 #59
+1000000 bdamomma Jul 2020 #40
This sentiment is shared by millions. Sad situation when millions despise you that much. olegramps Jul 2020 #44
This is the only book about him that wnylib Jul 2020 #22
Agree, both of those I have, or will have, the actual book. northoftheborder Jul 2020 #27
"Unhappy and frustrated" Collimator Jul 2020 #35
Great podcast. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #30
yw denem Jul 2020 #34
Yep, been listening for a couple of weeks now. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #41
Think what a difference it could have made denem Jul 2020 #43
...and some of them (the ones up for re-election) are saying the very same thing. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #46
It's a family affair. keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #32
I need a shower Hekate Jul 2020 #52
This doesn't involve Ivanka, but it does illustrate rsdsharp Jul 2020 #53

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
2. I do wonder if she was sexually abused.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:33 AM
Jul 2020

There’s a video of her giving Trump a lap dance in public . People are giving Trump the side eye and he just glares back at them.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
7. I know the picture to which you are referring.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:47 AM
Jul 2020

IMO, his facial expression is that of someone about to climax.

There are plenty of other photos of him with young Ivanka that are really disturbing. I suspect you are right on the money with your speculation.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
31. totally agree Cat girl
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jul 2020

There have been countless pictures of him fondling her, pictures of Trump's hands all over her body in places I would never ever touch my daughter, grand daughter or any young girl.....

This is one sick puppy. Obviously she has learned to use whatever he wants from her to manipulate him any way she wants, to get whatever she wants.....

Putin would be sure to have some Kompromat on the two of them.......It is nauseating to even think about.

And when she wasn't around, the dead guy child pimp probably provided him with a pubescent substitute.

We are witnessing the depths of depravity......Creepy doesn't begin to describe Trump and all his cronies........

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
38. me too, up to a certain point
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jul 2020

the worst is the photo taken by a network journalist of them exchanging and open mouth kiss on the lips on a stage.
The journalist was interviewed and he said no way it was photoshopped. He took a bunch of pictures at that occasion, and it was only when he was looking through them that he noticed something weird in one of them, and had it enlarged......

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
10. I wouldn't put that past him.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:52 AM
Jul 2020

Actually, I believe he really did the dirty deed with her.




#newrostrong

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
54. Sociopaths most assuredly do not have a sense of right and wrong.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jul 2020

“If I want it, it’s right,” is their world view.

2naSalit

(86,649 posts)
24. Wonder?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jul 2020

He has no intention of treating his children any other way than his father did his, that czarina was female was a bonus for daddy.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
36. Why hold it back? The revelation wouldn't change anything.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jul 2020

Normal people already know that he's a disgustingly perverted monster, and his inbred followers will really believe that he's one of them.

RoadRising

(31 posts)
47. There's also this ...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:01 PM
Jul 2020

“Trump and his daughter Ivanka were on 'The Wendy Williams Show' in February 2013 when they were asked about their favorite thing in common with each other.
Donald Trump joked that he and his daughter Ivanka have sex in common in a February 2013 taped appearance on The Wendy Williams Show.

During a question and answer game, Williams asked Ivanka, "What's the favorite thing you have in common with your father?"

Ivanka answered, "Either real estate or golf" while Trump added, "Well, I was going to say sex, but I can't relate that to her."

essme

(1,207 posts)
5. I was wondering if Mary Trump's book would have anything on Ivanka
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jul 2020

As an older cousin, Ivanka's childhood must have been horrifying to watch.

I am also interested in what Ivana- Trump's first wife, I don't know her last name now- thinks of the book. I doubt she'll comment; we will probably never know.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. From the little I've heard, Ivana would not like how she's portrayed.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jul 2020

Did she really give her niece-in-law insultingly and outstandingly cheap gifts for Christmas? How on earth would a person of her wealth and tastes even come across a 3-pack of middle-class underpants?

bdamomma

(63,877 posts)
39. dysfunctional family
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jul 2020

big time, I wonder about Robert (Mary's dad) who passed away from alcoholism, what kind of pressure did they put on him, and to not even show up at the hospital when he died, or was it his funeral?

On a thread here that I read it was all about self preservation for him, but taking his revenge on human kind, he is not well mentally.

He really does need to be removed. He is a threat to himself and others, a lot of others.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
55. I blame the non-removal on 53 chickenshit Senators who refused to convict upon impeachment.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 02:17 AM
Jul 2020

All the people whining about how he should be removed under the 25th Amendment for unfitness haven't said a damn word about the impeachment lacking a conviction.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
45. What an evil POS!
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jul 2020

He is the LOSER! He has always been a loser and always will be until the day he dies, which is hopefully soon.

And now, because of him, his children are losers too. What a sick, disgusting family they are.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
14. I'm guessing they caught their father's genes
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:04 AM
Jul 2020

rather than too many kicks to the head. Who knows? I suspect the kids are under an NDA.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
37. Personal theory...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:30 AM
Jul 2020

Absolutely nothing to base it on except a gut feeling, and a Biology 101 level of understanding genetics, but I think some men just carry a weak Y chromosome. If so, Trump's definitely one of them. I've known too many couples over the years who have sharp, on point daughters, but their sons are...not so much. I've seen learning disabilities in brothers, but not their sisters. I've worked with autistic children, and I think Rosie O'Donnell was right about Barron being on the spectrum...which can make him a freakin' genius, ala Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory. Don Jr. and Eric are another thing.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
56. Interesting!
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 02:19 AM
Jul 2020

I got a biology degree long ago that is now obsolete, but that sounds interesting. Y chromosomes are much smaller than the X anyway. I believe that's why sex-linked inheritance like hemophilia usually occurs only in males. Passed on through the mother's X chromosome, the Y chromosome is not able to block the effect of the X chromosome.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
60. My bio professor in college started me down that road, I think.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jul 2020

He posited his own personal theory that women were biologically stronger than men. Men were physically stronger, but women had them biologically. He said if you look at traits that are recessive, from something as mundane as hair loss, through color blindness, to hemophilia, a man only needs one recessive gene for the trait to manifest itself, a woman needs two. That, and more miscarriages, still births and crib deaths were boy babies. The ratio of autism is 8-1, boys to girls. And men die younger. That, of course, is probably due to the fact you put up with us. His belief was that something was missing off the Y chromosome that is present on the X, and that it's probably an immunity factor.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
29. The Bundys were a warm, loving family compared to the Trumps.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jul 2020

Al Bundy complained a lot, but he sacrificed for his family and did things with his kids. I have never seen Trump spend any quality time with Barron whatsoever. He didn't even wish his wife a happy Mother's Day.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
23. That is my first hope every morning when I turn on MSNBC. It would be BREAKING NEWS...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:34 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:06 AM - Edit history (1)

So far, disappointment.

edit to add

So I yell to Joe, Honey! He's not dead yet. You can stay in bed.

2naSalit

(86,649 posts)
25. Ah, but the day young!
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:42 AM
Jul 2020

There's always hope. He said to be inconsolable so it may be that as is nose dive and eventual crash intensify, he's bound to explode physically.

2naSalit

(86,649 posts)
59. I agree...
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 07:44 AM
Jul 2020

there is no amount of suffering that he does not deserve, and I want to see him pay the price for his evil.

wnylib

(21,489 posts)
22. This is the only book about him that
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:30 AM
Jul 2020

interests me because of Mary's personal knowledge of the family and her professional training and experience as a clinical psychologist.

The only other book I read about Trump was Bob Woodward's book, "Fear: Trump in the White House."

The rest are just gossipy nonsense with little insight to offer.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
27. Agree, both of those I have, or will have, the actual book.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jul 2020

Two of the others I have listened to - lot of repetition - Trump appears to always be angry, every day, about something. How someone that unhappy and frustrated would want to continue in this office puzzles me - but that speaks to his mental illnesses I'm sure. He is a totally unfit man to hold this office. (to say the least)

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
35. "Unhappy and frustrated"
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:23 AM
Jul 2020

Are key words to describe his working class supporters. Trump's ability to get away with lashing out from those emotions is something they desperately want in their own lives. And we know that his wealthy supporters consider him a useful, if awkward, tool.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
41. Yep, been listening for a couple of weeks now.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jul 2020

The Lincoln Project's podcast and The Bulwark podcast are also excellent ones if you ever have the time to check them out.

None are quite as good as Pod Save America, but it's really cool (and extremely refreshing) to hear The Never Trump Republicans talk about Trumpism and the harm it's causing.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
46. ...and some of them (the ones up for re-election) are saying the very same thing.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jul 2020

They had their chance to get rid of Trump once and for all, but instead they are probably going to get rid of their own careers in the Senate because of their cowardice.

rsdsharp

(9,186 posts)
53. This doesn't involve Ivanka, but it does illustrate
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:23 PM
Jul 2020

abuse. I read a story a couple of years ago about Jr when he was at Penn. Jr. was known by dorm mates at Diaper Don for his penchant of getting blind drunk, falling asleep in someone else’s bed, and then peeing it. But I digress.

Don Sr drove to Philly to take Jr. to a Yankees game. Nice huh? Well, no. Trump went into the dorm to Jr.’s room. When Jr. came to the door wearing a Yankees jersey, Sr. in full view of many of the dorm residents, knocked his son down, and told him to put on a suit and meet him in the car. That’s abominable, not even taking into consideration wearing a suit to a baseball game.

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