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kairos12

(12,862 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:36 AM Jul 2020

I would like to nominate Arizona

as the current No. 1 in the most inept response to the Trump Virus. I know there are more states that can make that claim. I think AZ doesn't get the disfavor it deserves because, let's face it, the media doesn't want to come here when the temperature is 115 degrees. So here are my reasons why AZ is the true virus apocalypse.

1. People have to wait in the cars for hour upon hour in 100 degree plus temperatures, if they can find one.

2. PPE is now in short supply again.

3. AZ hospitals are now surging because room is running out. Welcome to the hallway closet.

4. AZ is the only state currently that is on the brink of implementing "Standards of Care" criteria for patient. Death Panels.

5. AZ closed too late and opened too early.

6. Despite all these disasters Chump came here and had a no mask rally with 3000 crazies.

7. There is no state wide mandatory mask rule.

8. The NY Times recently said that AZ is the worst place in the world for COVID based on a number of criteria.

9. On Thursday the Bozo Governor had a press conference where his response to the rampaging virus in AZ was to limit restaurant's inside dining to less than 50% capacity. Wow.

I know there are other States that can also claim the No. 1 spot, but I humbly submit AZ is the top state to currently avoid.

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I would like to nominate Arizona (Original Post) kairos12 Jul 2020 OP
Not only are people waiting hours in line to get tested, some of them are camping out Mike 03 Jul 2020 #1
Tomorrow it's going to be 116. Mosby Jul 2020 #3
Wow. I have four family members in Mesa/Tempe so this has been on my mind. Mike 03 Jul 2020 #5
We haven't had any real rain for months now. Mosby Jul 2020 #12
There is a mandatory mask order in Maricopa county Mosby Jul 2020 #2
And one more thing: Mike 03 Jul 2020 #4
I'm here. kairos12 Jul 2020 #6
Stay cool (or try). Mike 03 Jul 2020 #7
I live in N. AZ. Tested July 1st and no results yet. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #19
I took my son for a COVID test so he could return to his group home last week kimbutgar Jul 2020 #23
Guess we need to go to trump rallies if we want to get tested. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #25
I'd rather eat the hottest chili pepper then go to one of those klan rallies. kimbutgar Jul 2020 #26
Me, too. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #27
I'll nominate Florida. sop Jul 2020 #8
I knew kairos12 Jul 2020 #11
#COVIDIOTS aka #BranchCovidians alterfurz Jul 2020 #9
You have the trump recipe--for all of America riversedge Jul 2020 #10
My 89 year old mother in law is driving to Prescott tomorrow, with her MAGA daughter to visit her kimbutgar Jul 2020 #13
I'm in Prescott. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #20
Thank you kimbutgar Jul 2020 #21
I'm sorry you have this added stress. There's only so much you can do. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #24
I had to update you! kimbutgar Jul 2020 #30
I'm glad she changed her mind. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #31
The mayor of Sierra Vista will not mandate masks. panader0 Jul 2020 #14
Meanwhile, right next door to Arizona, PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #15
That's because you have intelligent governor. roamer65 Jul 2020 #36
Yes. And a woman. It seems to help. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #43
I just voted in our August Michigan primary. roamer65 Jul 2020 #46
We here in Vegas are Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #16
Sorry you have to deal with kairos12 Jul 2020 #17
Just how things happen. Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #18
I am really torn on that export of patients. roamer65 Jul 2020 #37
You are spot one with the Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #42
Close call with Florida, while Texas holds their beers. nt Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #22
Florida is looking for someone to hold its beer right now. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #28
Just wait for the power failures ThoughtCriminal Jul 2020 #29
Why would there be power failures? dawg Jul 2020 #32
Overloaded power grids ThoughtCriminal Jul 2020 #34
The power companies know people use a/c in heat waves. former9thward Jul 2020 #44
I don't think Arizona has been as irresponsible as Georgia. dawg Jul 2020 #33
In Arizona, we not only have a Trump loyalist government ThoughtCriminal Jul 2020 #35
This is our governor. dawg Jul 2020 #39
Something has been protecting us, at least relative to Arizona. dawg Jul 2020 #40
Of course, it's also possible that we are just late to the party and ... dawg Jul 2020 #41
We are one Category 3-5 hurricane away from true disaster in the Southeast. roamer65 Jul 2020 #38
Florida says "hold my beer". nt Blue_true Jul 2020 #45
I vote for Arizona as being the worst spot on the planet right now. StarryNite Jul 2020 #47

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. Not only are people waiting hours in line to get tested, some of them are camping out
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jul 2020

the night before. People are waiting 8 - 12 hours and then being turned away!

It's forecast to be 117 degrees in Phoenix over the weekend into early next week.

It's a catastrophe.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. Wow. I have four family members in Mesa/Tempe so this has been on my mind.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jul 2020

The incompetence is so thick right now, I halfway expect the electricity to go out down there.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
12. We haven't had any real rain for months now.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jul 2020

My next water bill is going to be nuts.

Aps/srp stays on top of things, they work 24/7. The transformer that serviced my house went out a couple years ago during the summer, the crew came out and replaced the entire pole and transformer, in the middle of the night.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
2. There is a mandatory mask order in Maricopa county
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:41 AM
Jul 2020

The problem is a lot of stores aren't willing to enforce it, per the lawyers who run everything.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. And one more thing:
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jul 2020

If you're determined and lucky enough to get tested, you sometimes have to wait as long as TWO WEEKS for your results.

I live here, so I'm allowed to beat up on Arizona.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
7. Stay cool (or try).
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jul 2020

This heat is dangerous!



You're right about it being dry. If we had this heat plus the humidity of the south east it would be a lot worse.

Nevilledog

(51,124 posts)
19. I live in N. AZ. Tested July 1st and no results yet.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jul 2020

Dr. has no idea when will get the results.

Mask usage is getting better, about 60%.

kimbutgar

(21,164 posts)
23. I took my son for a COVID test so he could return to his group home last week
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jul 2020

He had the test at 11:30 am on Wednesday and I got the negative test result back at 5 pm Thursday. This is San Francisco. They swabbed his nose and throat!

That is bs they make you wait.

sop

(10,205 posts)
8. I'll nominate Florida.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jul 2020

Floridians, particularly in the most-affected counties, seem blissfully unconcerned about COVID-19. Their God-given right to congregate, have fun and spread the virus is the only thing that matters.

kairos12

(12,862 posts)
11. I knew
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:53 AM
Jul 2020

Florida would give AZ a run for No. 1. It's probably a photo finish. At at the graveyard.

kimbutgar

(21,164 posts)
13. My 89 year old mother in law is driving to Prescott tomorrow, with her MAGA daughter to visit her
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:06 AM
Jul 2020

MAGA granddaughter. I am so upset about this and my husband feels powerless to sTop her. Luckily her other daughter who hates mf45 as much as we do is gong along to make sure masks are being worn around her another.

My mother is a liberal and also hates mf45 btw but I think she is tired of being stuck at home. I get it but I’m scared where she’s going the red ignorant part of Arizona that people attack those wearing masks.

Nevilledog

(51,124 posts)
20. I'm in Prescott.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jul 2020

Haven't heard anything about confrontations over masks, but I rarely go anywhere. It is a very red county, but seeing an uptick in mask usage.

kimbutgar

(21,164 posts)
21. Thank you
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jul 2020

I saw a video of a MF45 supporter attacking a mask wearer and they said it was Prescott. Thank you for telling me,though you’re seeing a increasing mask usage.


Sadly my sister in law and niece think corona virus is a Democratic hoax To make MF45 lose. I hope my mother in law wears her mask driving up there In the car for Sun City west. I have an older sister who had a heart bypass recently and I took her out yesterday and wore my mask when I was driving in the car with her to protect her.

Nevilledog

(51,124 posts)
24. I'm sorry you have this added stress. There's only so much you can do.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jul 2020

I've given up on expecting other people to do the right thing. They don't want to hear facts and the facts they hear, they dismiss. Hang in there!

kimbutgar

(21,164 posts)
30. I had to update you!
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jul 2020

My mother in law called today and said she was not going to Prescott. The daughter who is a mf45 supporter cancelled the trip because two of her co workers at the car dealership she works at died of COVID 19 on Thursday. One was a salesman she didn’t know who was a white male 48 years and the other was a parts person another white make 61 years old that she knew. Out of caution my sister in law cancelled the trip. She is quarantining herself for the weekend and not seeing her Mother nor kids and grandchildren. My mother in law didn’t know if they are closing the business down because of the outbreak.

I am so relieved!

Nevilledog

(51,124 posts)
31. I'm glad she changed her mind.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jul 2020

Still disgusted that it took people dying to make the daughter wise up.

I hope you and yours stay healthy!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
14. The mayor of Sierra Vista will not mandate masks.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:06 AM
Jul 2020

The county sheriff says it would be to hard to enforce.
On June 7th Cochise County had 141 cases.
It is 940 today, less than 5 weeks later a 666% increase (yikes).
I stay home, keep the cooler on 24/7 and stay, um, hydrated.
Thank goodness I live in the boonies away for the citidiots and covididiots.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
15. Meanwhile, right next door to Arizona,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jul 2020

the state that keeps Arizona and Texas from crashing into each other, the one that a lot of people think isn't part of the U.S. at all, New Mexico, is closing indoor dining back down effective Monday. Looks like fall sports in k-12 schools is also not going to happen. And even if the schools will open.

While our numbers have been rising, they are not out of control. Most people are good about wearing masks, as the governor has ordered. Unfortunately, too many stores don't enforce the mask rule on everyone. They need to start that, and stop being concerned about "offending" patrons. The local library is open for curbside delivery only. I feel as safe here as I possibly can.

I could also add we have a Democratic Governor, Michelle Lujan Grisham.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
46. I just voted in our August Michigan primary.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:31 PM
Jul 2020

Only voted for 2 men, all the rest women. One of the men was for district judge and was endorsed by my former state representative I campaigned for a ways back, who also just happens to be a woman. She was an amazing legislator.

I want a LOT more women in office. Our governor, Gretchen Whitmer, has handled this pandemic extremely well. Most are happy with her here in MI.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. We here in Vegas are
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jul 2020

receiving what is known as "Stabilized Patients" from Arizona. Understand their Hospitals have zero capacity left.

Ought to be interesting by this time next week. With our failed opening of Bars and Cafe's as well as the Casino's,that incubation period clock start ticking tomorrow.

Even with all Bars being locked down at Midnight tonight,the horse has long left the Barns.

kairos12

(12,862 posts)
17. Sorry you have to deal with
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jul 2020

our overflow. You will need the capacity for your own folks.

Hunger Games here we are.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Just how things happen.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jul 2020

Your years of having a far Right Governmental Philosophy,based on total Bullshiting the Voters to vote for their worst interests,has now come home to roost in spades.

Amazing how the GOP in both Utah and Arizona seems to be the same White Families that founded the State of Desseret in the 1850's,

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
37. I am really torn on that export of patients.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jul 2020

1. It can spread the virus and drains resources needed by the actual residents of the recipient states.
2. Why should other states have to deal with the ineptitude of other ones?

Conversely, I understand the compassion side of the argument.

This is why we need to use military bases and set up field hospitals, like 1918-1920. Who’s stopping this plan?

Dotard Don.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
42. You are spot one with the
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jul 2020

person who has created this friggin Pandemic. After following the Politics of Arizona for a couple decades,one has a clinical study group called the Failure of GOP Policy and the end product is Death via implementation of those failed policies.

The next two months are going to be on hell of a nightmare.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
28. Florida is looking for someone to hold its beer right now.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jul 2020

Get with me in 2 weeks and we will look like Italy in March/April.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
29. Just wait for the power failures
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:52 PM
Jul 2020

Hope the utilities can cope with the demand. When the AC goes out, some places are going to literally boil.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
32. Why would there be power failures?
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jul 2020

Because this isn't a risk I haven't been seriously considering, but maybe I need to.

former9thward

(32,028 posts)
44. The power companies know people use a/c in heat waves.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jul 2020

AZ power is well equipped for it. I lived there for 11 years and there were no issues.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
33. I don't think Arizona has been as irresponsible as Georgia.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 02:59 PM
Jul 2020

We opened our tattoo parlors and hair salons in April. People are packing into church services. Movie theaters and indoor dining are not being seriously restricted.

And we are seeing the results in our infection rate.

But (so far) not nearly as bad as Arizona, at least on a per capita basis.

I'm curious as to why that might be. But it certainly isn't because we have made better policy choices, because we surely have not.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
35. In Arizona, we not only have a Trump loyalist government
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 03:13 PM
Jul 2020

We have a lot of adults who want to prove their loyalty to Trump by being as personally irresponsible as he is.

We may not have as many per acre, but more than enough per-capita to keep this epidemic going indefinitely.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
40. Something has been protecting us, at least relative to Arizona.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 03:33 PM
Jul 2020

We deserve to be doing at least as poorly.

I wonder if the high relative humidity might be slowing the spread somewhat?

Also, it is possible that our business-class folks might be taking the virus more seriously than their counterparts in Arizona. I can't speak for AZ, but I do know that lots of office workers in Atlanta are still working from home whenever possible.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
41. Of course, it's also possible that we are just late to the party and ...
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jul 2020

as we say down here, fixing to catch up.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
38. We are one Category 3-5 hurricane away from true disaster in the Southeast.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jul 2020

In the aftermath, the virus will spread like wildfire.

StarryNite

(9,446 posts)
47. I vote for Arizona as being the worst spot on the planet right now.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jul 2020

Ducey opened things up right before tRump arrived. It was way too soon and too fast. I've heard people speculate that he's carrying tRump's water in order to secure a cabinet appointment. The numbers will probably start reflecting tRump's COVID church rally. And Ducey won't even talk to the mayors of the biggest AZ cities or Senato Sinema.

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