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4 kids and it is your actions that will leave them without their mom while you serve jail time. (Original Post) kpete Jul 2020 OP
.... Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #1
It's probably best that the kids not be raised by these loons. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #2
Deafie here: could you summarize her words in both videos please? Thanks! nt tblue37 Jul 2020 #3
Not quite a summary Midnightwalk Jul 2020 #5
Thanks! It's a pain to be too deaf to understand videos without closed captioning. nt tblue37 Jul 2020 #6
I would like to see a credible murielm99 Jul 2020 #4
Escalation of force is to the extent of the threat, not your emotions. Caliman73 Jul 2020 #7

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
5. Not quite a summary
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jul 2020

First video she is offering an excuse for brandishing. "The mother and daughter rushed up to her."

Second video shows more. Back and forth about maybe someone got pushed or bumped? You're a racist, no you are. That sort of thing.

At 1:30 in video her husband and her are in the van backing up. One of the people was standing behind - can't tell whether the van disregarded the person there or whether the person got closer - camera wasn't exactly pointing right and a little blurry.

I could hear the person bang (not real hard) on the van though. Then you see her out of the out of the van pointing at the gun and I can hear and see her chamber a round. Get the F* away from me.

The excuse doesn't match the video. Any rushing up was after the van backed up next to the person who responded by banging on back of van. I don't think it was hard enough to leave any mark on the van, it was more of a "wtf watch what you're doing" bang to me. Hard to interpret for me, but I took her getting out of the van as anger at the person banging on the van.

Hope it provides some of the missing context. Even with sound it was hard for me to really follow/interpret.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
4. I would like to see a credible
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jul 2020

description of what happened before the recording began.

Why didn't the white lady or her husband call the cops if they felt threatened?

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
7. Escalation of force is to the extent of the threat, not your emotions.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jul 2020

She got into her car, she was safe, the altercation was pretty much over.

The woman banged on the car with her hand. A hand versus a 3000 pound vehicle that was in motion, is not a threat. The woman got out of the car because she was angry, not because she was scared. She wanted to show the Black women what "force" was and when they were not scared of her brandishing the firearm, she was stuck.

She should suffer whatever the penalties are for the crime of brandishing a deadly weapon, and she should never be allowed to own a firearm again.

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